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    Post by Luis Thu May 24, 2007 12:16 pm

    I'm sure you've all heard the trouble of last night's ticketing and the way it was handled by the police and Uefa.

    I just think it's absolutely disgraceful, the whole thing, Uefa are disgraceful and unfortunately so are a minority of Liverpool fans.

    The ticket allocation was far too small, everyone knew it, and so they had to expect the 40-50,000 that travelled over, Liverpool fans travel where ever, with a ticket or not to see their team, but it's just not acceptable to go to the game without a ticket and steal someone elses seat that they have worked hard to pay for and have arranged flights, accomodation etc only to find someone else is in there seat.

    People got in even without a ticket, how on earth did that happen, I know someome who went as a group of 4 mates and they all got in with only two tickets between them, so who on earth was checking the tickets? as far as we were told there were 3 security checks, but then they all just seem to be abandoned to let the fans in, many of which just snuck in without a ticket.

    I can understand that Liverpool fans felt a right to be in that stadium, many were deeply saddended not to get a ticket and felt Uefa's allocation was disgusting, which is true, it was always going to cause problems, but to put other fans in danger is not on and the police didn't seem to care.

    It's just all very sad for football and Uefa have handled it badly, they gave a very small allocation of 17,000, they knew more Liverpool fans would be in the stadium then that but they refused to give more tickets, why not let Liverpool be in charge of the tickets for these 'extra' fans rather than making them buy on the black market for thousands of pounds, Uefa need to take a serious look at what happened and make drastic changes for next season.

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    Post by The-Frank-Tavern Thu May 24, 2007 12:18 pm

    17k tiks of which your club decided to give 11k to the fans so for all your gripes about uefa your club also has some q´s to answer
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    Post by Luis Thu May 24, 2007 12:18 pm

    The-Frank-Tavern wrote:17k tiks of which your club decided to give 11k to the fans so for all your gripes about uefa your club also has some q´s to answer

    the Liverpool fans recieved 17,000 through the club because they had no choice
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    Post by Tweesus Thu May 24, 2007 12:19 pm

    I read this morning about the police holding back 2,000 fans about half an hour before the game, the fans just broke through (obviously, who'd want to miss the game) and then the police started to beat them with the trungdeons.

    Policing across Europe is a complete joke - no other country seems capable of crowd control. Will it take a Hillsbrough before foreign nations realise that they're going about it in completely the wrong way!
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    Post by The-Frank-Tavern Thu May 24, 2007 12:20 pm

    no 11k tiks were distributed by the club to the FANS the other 6k given to liverpool were given to players, sponsors, board members, glory hunting hangers on etc. so YOUR club in part contributed tothe prob.
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    Post by Luis Thu May 24, 2007 12:21 pm

    The-Frank-Tavern wrote:no 11k tiks were distributed by the club to the FANS the other 6k given to liverpool were given to players, sponsors, board members, glory hunting hangers on etc. so YOUR club in part contributed tothe prob.

    I think you'll find you're wrong <Ale>
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    Post by Liverpool 0 - 1 Man U Thu May 24, 2007 12:22 pm

    Cartman
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    Post by Luis Thu May 24, 2007 12:23 pm

    OwenThomas4 wrote:Cartman

    Is that your contrabution to this thread? Eric Cartman?
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    Post by The-Frank-Tavern Thu May 24, 2007 12:26 pm

    Luis wrote:
    The-Frank-Tavern wrote:no 11k tiks were distributed by the club to the FANS the other 6k given to liverpool were given to players, sponsors, board members, glory hunting hangers on etc. so YOUR club in part contributed tothe prob.

    I think you'll find you're wrong <Ale>
    http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/0100news/0100regionalnews/tm_headline=parry-shows-sympathy-for-reds--8217--fans-after-ticket-fiasco&method=full&objectid=19133348&siteid=50061-name_page.html

    check this out


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    Post by Cesc Soler Thu May 24, 2007 12:26 pm

    Tweedle wrote:I read this morning about the police holding back 2,000 fans about half an hour before the game, the fans just broke through (obviously, who'd want to miss the game) and then the police started to beat them with the trungdeons.

    Policing across Europe is a complete joke - no other country seems capable of crowd control. Will it take a Hillsbrough before foreign nations realise that they're going about it in completely the wrong way!
    ok

    From what we have seen this year, It seems that us British lead the way when it comes to Policing and Security for games.
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    Post by Luis Thu May 24, 2007 12:27 pm

    The-Frank-Tavern wrote:
    Luis wrote:
    The-Frank-Tavern wrote:no 11k tiks were distributed by the club to the FANS the other 6k given to liverpool were given to players, sponsors, board members, glory hunting hangers on etc. so YOUR club in part contributed tothe prob.

    I think you'll find you're wrong <Ale>
    http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/0100news/0100regionalnews/tm_headline=parry-shows-sympathy-for-reds--8217--fans-after-ticket-fiasco&method=full&objectid=19133348&siteid=50061-name_page.html

    check this out

    Parry said on the official site that 17,000 went to the fans, there's no way it was 11,000
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    Post by The-Frank-Tavern Thu May 24, 2007 12:28 pm

    read the fucking article matey 11k to fans the other 6 to exactly where i said they went

    ffs there was even a protest in liverpool about this v subject


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    Post by Liverpool 0 - 1 Man U Thu May 24, 2007 12:30 pm

    Luis wrote:
    OwenThomas4 wrote:Cartman

    Is that your contrabution to this thread? Eric Cartman?

    Smile

    Well, we already have a thread on this which you made yourself I believe.

    If you want a proper opinion, yeah it's shitty that Liverpool and Milan fans didn't get many tickets compared to capacity but name an event final where this doesn't happen? In any case alot more fans of yours got in then Milans.
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    Post by Luis Thu May 24, 2007 12:31 pm

    OwenThomas4 wrote:
    Luis wrote:
    OwenThomas4 wrote:Cartman

    Is that your contrabution to this thread? Eric Cartman?

    Smile

    Well, we already have a thread on this which you made yourself I believe.

    If you want a proper opinion, yeah it's shitty that Liverpool and Milan fans didn't get many tickets compared to capacity but name an event final where this doesn't happen? In any case alot more fans of yours got in then Milans.

    This is a thread adressing last night's issues, apparantly there was a lot of them ok
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    Post by robert Thu May 24, 2007 12:51 pm

    Good lord 6000 corporate tickets. Yikes.
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    Post by DS Thu May 24, 2007 1:08 pm

    Frank is right Luis.
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    Post by Murray Thu May 24, 2007 2:49 pm

    Milan also got 17000 tickets and their fans didn't cause any trouble. There's no excuse for the behaviour of some of the Liverpool fans
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    Post by Luis Thu May 24, 2007 2:51 pm

    Luis wrote:.

    I just think it's absolutely disgraceful, the whole thing, Uefa are disgraceful and unfortunately so are a minority of Liverpool fans.

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    Post by Forza Italia!Forza Milan! Thu May 24, 2007 5:17 pm

    UEFA: ROSSONERI FANS EXEMPLARY
    5/24/2007

    PARIS - 'The Milan fans have been exemplary, disciplined, correct and we need to pay respects to them,' said UEFA adviser to Michel Platini, William Gaillard. As for the incidents with Liverpool fans over tickets: 'It's time that the Liverpool fans were a bit self-critical, is necessary to understand that there are not infinite amount of places.'


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