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    The price of Kaka

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    Post by Forza Italia!Forza Milan! Wed May 30, 2007 4:54 pm

    supermadrid(zizou legend) wrote:
    Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:
    supermadrid(zizou legend) wrote:
    Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:
    supermadrid(zizou legend) wrote:i know that calderon will want to use the money we earned from the tv deal which is why he doesnt want to go above 60mil euros/pounds. we should try to solve some of the problems we have in our current squad but when that is done i would love a galactico buy because i have gotten used to them and they gives a bit of magic over the team.

    The galactico era seems to be over at Real. Carlos's departure will signal an end to that era.

    They are buying much more sensibly now. Calderon has to save face with all his claims of Ronaldo and Kaka. But he always knew they were out of reach.
    the galactico era will never be over i think. they will always buy big players and profit from marketing. i think our marketing section had a plan ready last year when all the rumours came of kaka. the plan was what contract and how they would use his image which they mean was a untapped area by milan. it might seem more sensibly but if man utd would have let them get ronaldo for 60 mil im sure we would have bought him. if we are not going to get a galactico it will be because calderon is simply not half the business man Perez was.

    Perez was a class act. Calderon is not half of what he was.

    Kaka's image has been used to a great degree by Milan, so you are wrong about that. Milan are very very good at marketing as well.

    You will not get a galactico, in my opinion, this summer or even the next. The reason is simple. Man U and Milan are not selling clubs. Berlusconi is worth something like 12 billion US dollars. The money you will offer, he doesn't need.

    Man U are also very wealthy. Contrast this with when Juve sold you Zidane. They are a rich club, but their philosophy is different. They replaced Zidane with Nedved. Even if we get Ronaldinho (unlikely) we would never sell you Kaka. Berlu wants to see Ronaldinho-Kaka-Ronaldo up front.

    Honestly, last summer, I thought you guys had a small chance of getting Kaka. Calderon blew it, IMO, and the relationship between the clubs will never be the same--even with the purchase of Ronaldo.

    At the end of August 31, we'll see.
    you might think you have used kakas image but Real would prob use it alot more since its a place where we have made our most money. also player himself is only part of marketing thing. the actual buy of kaka is a huge part aswell. also im not sure perez was a class act but he was much more subtle. and if he wanted a player he would normally have a good chance of getting him.with perez i would say we would have had 50% of getting kaka but not its 10% since calderon is too stupid. its also not all about the amount of money. if barca could go back they would choose keeping figo instead of selling him. perez was just good at convincing the player. and i gues we wont get a galactico this summer either but it is not a tactic that will be forgotten.

    Well Real and Milan are the two biggest clubs in Europe. Players would love to play there. I'm sure if Milan decided to sell Kaka to Real, Kaka wouldn't throw a fit; rather he would welcome it.

    However, he is also very happy at Milan. I think it will come down to whether Milan want to sell, and I don't think they will, simply because we are a rich club on our own and when you throw Berlu in the mix, it takes us to almost Chelsea's level.

    In Sheva's case, the player came out and asked for a transfer, and Galliani didn't really negotiate with him because he probably thought, ok here's a guy who's 30 and Chelsea are willing to pay us a wad of cash. And so he sold him. Great piece of business if you ask me.

    As for the galactico bit, you may be right. The marketing bit...I agree Real are adept at promoting their brand, but remember in a recent poll (bluenine will testify) Inter and Milan came out to be amongst the most popular clubs in the Far East. Milan are also promoting their brand here in North America as well.
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    Post by bluenine Wed May 30, 2007 5:06 pm

    Yeah, apparently in Cking-land, Inter and Milan are the top two most popular clubs followed by ManU and Real (as per the results of an annual poll).

    That said, I don't think any of the Italian clubs do half as good a job of marketing their brand as EPL and Real do. Its sad, coz in the 90s, Serie A clubs basically had the entire non-european market to themselves and yet did nothing to promote their brands.

    I am sure if you look at the demographics of the fans in China, Real and ManU will have much younger fans than Inter/Milan.

    Its the same in India... in the early 90s, every football fan used to only talk Serie A, baring a few Real-Barca fans.... now, after 10 years of espn marketing EPL, 80-90% of the football fans support english teams - and these are mainly new-to-football fans...

    Italian clubs have screwed up big time, and even now are doing too little too late.

    Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:
    As for the galactico bit, you may be right. The marketing bit...I agree Real are adept at promoting their brand, but remember in a recent poll (bluenine will testify) Inter and Milan came out to be amongst the most popular clubs in the Far East. Milan are also promoting their brand here in North America as well.
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    Post by DS Wed May 30, 2007 5:20 pm

    About the price , one would only assume the price if Milan were to sell which wont happen in my view.

    According to accounting you dont update the historical cost of your plant assest according to the market cost because it is not for resale rather only for using to gain profits , only the residual value is estimated and the useful life and the depreciation according to it so others can have him when Milan will think he is no use for them.

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