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    Post by Sgoater1 Thu May 31, 2007 2:36 pm

    Who has the best midfield ?

    U*d:

    Carrick
    Hargreaves
    Scholes
    Giggs
    Ronaldo
    Nani
    Anderson
    Park
    Fletcher
    Richardson
    O'Shea

    OR

    Chelsea:

    Essien
    Lampard
    Ballack
    Makelele
    Mikel
    Robben
    Cole
    SWP
    Geremi
    Diarra
    Sidwell


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    Post by Parks lives Thu May 31, 2007 2:38 pm

    Our's was looking really good till I got down to Richardson. Sad
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    Post by Luis Thu May 31, 2007 2:39 pm

    United.
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    Post by Sgoater1 Thu May 31, 2007 2:39 pm

    Parks lives wrote:Our's was looking really good till I got down to Richardson. Sad

    Im sure he will leave now though, plus he is 10th on the list !
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    Post by Fey Thu May 31, 2007 2:39 pm

    In a fight Chelsea would win, Manu has the better football skill team for panna's etc. Who would win on the pitch? no idea Very Happy
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    Post by Parks lives Thu May 31, 2007 2:40 pm

    Hard to decide.

    Our's is more creative, Chelsea's is more destructive.
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    Post by Tweesus Thu May 31, 2007 2:40 pm

    Defensively: Chelsea

    Offensively: Man Utd

    I'd prefer to have Utd's for entertainment's sake.

    Essien is a monster though and Cole, Robben and Ballack are also world class players. Mikel and Diarra are showing signs of going that way too
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    Post by shazlx Thu May 31, 2007 2:41 pm

    If chelsea play
    ------------Essien--Ballack
    Robben --------Mikel--------J.cole

    with Mak, Diaara, SWP, Kalou (and Lampard) as back up then they do.
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    Post by Sgoater1 Thu May 31, 2007 2:42 pm

    Both have amazing strength and depth in their midfield it is a very close call but i now think U*d might have overtaken Chelsea in terms of midfield quality, especially when going forward. I dont think Chelsea make the most of their attacking mids, they could use Robben, Cole and SWP to much better effect but instead insist on playing 3 CM's at a time.
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    Post by Jaime Thu May 31, 2007 2:43 pm

    Parks lives wrote:Our's was looking really good till I got down to Richardson. Sad

    Cheer up, Chelsea have Geremi in their list! Laugh


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    Post by robert Thu May 31, 2007 2:43 pm

    I'd go with Chelsea if we are talking straight CM because of Essien. The monster. Wide midfielders, i'd pick us.


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    Post by Parks lives Thu May 31, 2007 2:44 pm

    Jaime wrote:
    Parks lives wrote:Our's was looking really good till I got down to Richardson. Sad

    Cheer up, Chelsea have Geremi in their list! Laugh

    He's light years better than Richardson.
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    Post by Sgoater1 Thu May 31, 2007 2:47 pm

    It seems fair to say that most people agree that defensively Chelsea are the best, especially in terms on CM. But U*d are far more creative and attacking and they hold that advantage over Chelsea.


    But overall who wins ? Prob U*d.
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    Post by Jaime Thu May 31, 2007 2:48 pm

    Parks lives wrote:
    Jaime wrote:
    Parks lives wrote:Our's was looking really good till I got down to Richardson. Sad

    Cheer up, Chelsea have Geremi in their list! Laugh

    He's light years better than Richardson.

    I haven't seen a lot of Richardson, but I find that very hard to believe.
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    Post by TM Thu May 31, 2007 2:49 pm

    Nani and Anderson have been MU players for less than 24 hours and the hype has begun Laugh


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    Post by Parks lives Thu May 31, 2007 2:49 pm

    Has we've found the last few seasons though, destructive players normally beat creative players.
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    Post by Tweesus Thu May 31, 2007 2:50 pm

    In a crazy attempt to do some sort of comparsion (for which I shall be lynched)

    Essien>>Carrick
    Hargreaves>>>Makalele
    Scholes>>>Lampard
    Giggs==Robben
    Ronaldo>>>SWP
    Ballack>>>Fletcher
    Cole>>>Nani
    Mikel>>O'shea
    Anderson=Robben
    Park>>Geremi
    Diarra>>richardson

    which leaves Sidwell....
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    Post by Machiavel Thu May 31, 2007 2:52 pm

    Parks lives wrote:Has we've found the last few seasons though, destructive players normally beat creative players.

    Who are the destructive midfielders Chelsea have ?

    Essien ...

    or is it more of a collective ..


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    Post by Parks lives Thu May 31, 2007 2:53 pm

    Mihawkavelli wrote:
    Parks lives wrote:Has we've found the last few seasons though, destructive players normally beat creative players.

    Who are the destructive midfielders Chelsea have ?

    Essien ...

    Makelele.
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    Post by Sheffield gunner Thu May 31, 2007 2:53 pm

    You've used Robben twice Tweedle.

    Personally, I would rather watch Man Utd's midfield because they have some great attacking players and wonderful passes. I think that Chelsea have the better balance though. If both midfields came up against each other I would expect Chelsea's to get the better of the contest because they have such power and strength through the centre, but still have quality attacking players like Robben and Cole out wide. It's a close call, but I think Chelsea have a slightly stronger midfield.
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    Post by Tweesus Thu May 31, 2007 2:54 pm

    Mihawkavelli wrote:
    Parks lives wrote:Has we've found the last few seasons though, destructive players normally beat creative players.

    Who are the destructive midfielders Chelsea have ?

    Essien ...

    or is it more of a collective ..

    Essien, Geremi, Diarra, Mikel and maka
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    Post by Parks lives Thu May 31, 2007 2:56 pm

    Sheffield gunner wrote:You've used Robben twice Tweedle.

    Personally, I would rather watch Man Utd's midfield because they have some great attacking players and wonderful passes. I think that Chelsea have the better balance though. If both midfields came up against each other I would expect Chelsea's to get the better of the contest because they have such power and strength through the centre, but still have quality attacking players like Robben and Cole out wide. It's a close call, but I think Chelsea have a slightly stronger midfield.

    Agree with all that.

    If you put out both our midfield's against a middle level team, we'd probably create more, score more than Chelsea's.

    However in a head to head, Chelsea's may find away of outplaying us or in other words, over powering us.

    Hopefully Hargreaves will change that slightly though.
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    Post by Fey Thu May 31, 2007 2:56 pm

    If you make an top 4 version of its shocking how bad Arsenal's midfield is Shocked
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    Post by Sgoater1 Thu May 31, 2007 2:58 pm

    Arsenal midfield:

    Fabregas
    Diaby
    Silva
    Walcott
    Rosicky
    Hleb
    Ljunberg
    Van Persie
    Denilson
    Song

    Liverpool midfield:

    Gerrard
    Riise
    Alonso
    Mascherano
    Pennant
    Sissoko
    Gonzalez
    Zenden
    Kewell
    Luis Garcia


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    Post by Roger Hunt Thu May 31, 2007 3:00 pm

    My view

    Ronaldo > Essien
    Scholes < Robben
    Carrick < Ballack
    Hargreaves > Cole
    Giggs < SWP
    Nani ? Lampard
    Anderson ? Makelele
    Park < Mikel
    Fletcher ? Geremi
    Richardson ? Diarra
    O'Shea ? Sidwell

    Based on rating them in order for each club and comparing.
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    Post by Parks lives Thu May 31, 2007 3:02 pm

    That made no sense at all Roger. Laughing
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    Post by Sgoater1 Thu May 31, 2007 3:03 pm

    Liverpool like Chelsea have a very strong and defensive CM but completly lack creativity. Arsenal on the other hand have a fair bit of flair and attacking mids but lack strong, hard defensive CMs.
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    Post by Sheffield gunner Thu May 31, 2007 3:08 pm

    I think, when you list players in this manner, it is obvious that we are considerably weaker than the other top 4 teams in terms of overall quality in the midfield area.
    Compared to Liverpool, I think our quality is spread more evenly. Fabregas and Gilberto are good central midfielders, Rosicky and RVP (if he counts) are good attacking options, plus inevitably we have plenty of exciting young players like Denilson. Liverpool have a much stronger central quartet of Alonso, Mascherano, Gerrard and Sissoko but lack quality out wide in my opinion.
    Still, it is early in the transfer market, there is plenty of time for both teams to improve their weaknesses.
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    Post by Roger Hunt Thu May 31, 2007 3:11 pm

    Sgoater1 wrote:Arsenal midfield:

    Fabregas
    Diaby
    Silva
    Walcott
    Rosicky
    Hleb
    Ljunberg
    Van Persie
    Song

    Liverpool midfield:

    Gerrard
    Riise
    Alonso
    Mascherano
    Pennant
    Sissoko
    Gonzalez
    Zenden
    Kewell

    You've forgotten Garcia who's probably our most important creative midfielder.
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    Post by Tweesus Thu May 31, 2007 3:12 pm

    Sgoater1 wrote:Arsenal midfield:

    Fabregas
    Diaby
    Silva
    Walcott
    Rosicky
    Hleb
    Ljunberg
    Van Persie
    Song


    *Gilberto

    Can't forget him - he got us 10 EPL goals this season Wink

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