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Wisla verlost Niedzielan en NEC van elkaar
29/6/2007 14:35
Andrzej Niedzielan staat op het punt te tekenen bij Wisla Kraków. De Poolse aanvaller mag transfervrij vertrekken bij NEC, waar hij nooit aan de hoge verwachtingen heeft voldaan.
Halverwege het seizoen 2003/04 nam NEC hem over van Dyskobolia Grodzisk. Maar waar de Nijmegenaren verwachtten een topspits binnen te halen, bleek Niedzielan van een heel ander kaliber. In 88 competitieduels maakte hij twintig doelpunten.
Coach Mario Been liet onlangs al weten dat er voor de 28-jarige Niedzielan geen toekomst meer was bij NEC, ondanks een tot en met juni 2008 doorlopend contract. Bovendien wilde de Nijmeegse Eredivisionist graag van de zeventienvoudig international (vijf goals) af vanwege diens hoge salaris.
http://www.vi.nl/vi/show/id=62802/contentid=94263/msnhome=true/sc=90b0d0
f@ck off then useless c**t.
Good riddance.
29/6/2007 14:35
Andrzej Niedzielan staat op het punt te tekenen bij Wisla Kraków. De Poolse aanvaller mag transfervrij vertrekken bij NEC, waar hij nooit aan de hoge verwachtingen heeft voldaan.
Halverwege het seizoen 2003/04 nam NEC hem over van Dyskobolia Grodzisk. Maar waar de Nijmegenaren verwachtten een topspits binnen te halen, bleek Niedzielan van een heel ander kaliber. In 88 competitieduels maakte hij twintig doelpunten.
Coach Mario Been liet onlangs al weten dat er voor de 28-jarige Niedzielan geen toekomst meer was bij NEC, ondanks een tot en met juni 2008 doorlopend contract. Bovendien wilde de Nijmeegse Eredivisionist graag van de zeventienvoudig international (vijf goals) af vanwege diens hoge salaris.
http://www.vi.nl/vi/show/id=62802/contentid=94263/msnhome=true/sc=90b0d0
f@ck off then useless c**t.
Good riddance.
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Ahhh...he always said he was ready for the big teams 
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They don't get bigger than Wisla Krakow.
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Eredivisie outright odds:
PSV 11/8 (poor)
Ajax 6/4 (poor)
AZ 9/2 (good)
Feyenoord 9/1 (better)
http://www.paddypower.com/bet?action=go_type&category=SOCCER&disp_cat_id=&ev_class_id=53&ev_type_id=3100&ev_oc_grp_ids=8566&bir_index=
PSV 11/8 (poor)
Ajax 6/4 (poor)
AZ 9/2 (good)
Feyenoord 9/1 (better)
http://www.paddypower.com/bet?action=go_type&category=SOCCER&disp_cat_id=&ev_class_id=53&ev_type_id=3100&ev_oc_grp_ids=8566&bir_index=
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Unibet bet's for Dutch Eredivisie outrigtht:
48,8% bets Ajax to win
36,2% PSV
12,8% Feyenoord (was 4% the week before)
2,1% AZ (was 4% week before)
amazing so many people bet on Ajax and PSV despite the poor odds you get. Proves how many people are clueless about betting.
48,8% bets Ajax to win
36,2% PSV
12,8% Feyenoord (was 4% the week before)
2,1% AZ (was 4% week before)
amazing so many people bet on Ajax and PSV despite the poor odds you get. Proves how many people are clueless about betting.
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Ajax wont win it , put your money on AZ + Feyenoord
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actually I did (yesterday) 25 euri on both.Johannes wrote:Ajax wont win it , put your money on AZ + Feyenoord
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jonathan de guzman wrote:actually I did (yesterday) 25 euri on both.Johannes wrote:Ajax wont win it , put your money on AZ + Feyenoord
The reward could be pleasing
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Johannes wrote:jonathan de guzman wrote:actually I did (yesterday) 25 euri on both.Johannes wrote:Ajax wont win it , put your money on AZ + Feyenoord
The reward could be pleasing
it's mainly for fun & I hardly bet (anymore), but if I see good odds I like to occasionally make one.
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jonathan de guzman wrote:Johannes wrote:jonathan de guzman wrote:actually I did (yesterday) 25 euri on both.Johannes wrote:Ajax wont win it , put your money on AZ + Feyenoord
The reward could be pleasing
I never really bet , to be honest i never have (and don't intend to)
but the odds are good
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Makes sense not to bet, most people don't win. I'm a little above break even. Online poker gives me better rewards, but it's a bit boring so I hardly do that anymore too.Johannes wrote:jonathan de guzman wrote:Johannes wrote:jonathan de guzman wrote:actually I did (yesterday) 25 euri on both.Johannes wrote:Ajax wont win it , put your money on AZ + Feyenoord
The reward could be pleasing
I never really bet , to be honest i never have (and don't intend to)
but the odds are good
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I agreejonathan de guzman wrote:Unibet bet's for Dutch Eredivisie outrigtht:
48,8% bets Ajax to win
36,2% PSV
12,8% Feyenoord (was 4% the week before)
2,1% AZ (was 4% week before)
amazing so many people bet on Ajax and PSV despite the poor odds you get. Proves how many people are clueless about betting.
These were the odds you gave [odds interpreted]
PSV 11/8 (poor) [58% not winning- 42% winning]
Ajax 6/4 (poor) [60% nw - 40% w]
AZ 9/2 (good) [81% nw - 19% w]
Feyenoord 9/1 (better) [90% nw - 10% w]
And in terms of interpreting the bets, you have to see how many they're giving you against winning [%nw], if you think those odds are really lower, then its a good deal. Odds bordering on 50/50 are never a good deal. Because... ->
Then you check the possible return - bet return % (br).
The odds you posted leo means that on PSV you'll only get a 37.5% gain on your bet (= f@ck all). On Ajax you'll get 50% return. On AZ you'll get 350% return, on Feyenoord 800% return.
So the odds given against not winning [need to worse than reality] need to be lower than the bet return % for it to be profitable.
So if nw% is smaller than br%, then its good odds given alround, especially if reality backs it up too (i.e., never bet on a team that has no chance of winning it (outisde top 3-4 etc).
So to recap:
PSV not winning 58% : 37.5% bet return [nw%>br% --> stay clear]
Ajax nw 60% : 50% bet return [nw>br]
AZ nw 81% : 350% bet return [nw<<br; that's good]
Feyenoord nw 90% : 800% bet return [nw<<<<br; that's great]
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DD- Number of posts : 10721
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Don't let a good odds pass you by - if you can comfortably afford it.jonathan de guzman wrote:Makes sense not to bet, most people don't win. I'm a little above break even. Online poker gives me better rewards, but it's a bit boring so I hardly do that anymore too.Johannes wrote:jonathan de guzman wrote:Johannes wrote:jonathan de guzman wrote:actually I did (yesterday) 25 euri on both.Johannes wrote:Ajax wont win it , put your money on AZ + Feyenoord
The reward could be pleasing
I never really bet , to be honest i never have (and don't intend to)
but the odds are good
And like leo says, if your not breaking even (in the minus) - quit and find another hobby.
So you like poker too, eh leo.
What stakes do you play? And which type of poker? (No) limit hold em I presume?
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Yep No limit Texas'em at low stake tables. Think I should be able to win playing at higher stakes tables too (there are so many online players around who overestimate themselves), but I don't want to play for too much money.DD wrote:Don't let a good odds pass you by - if you can comfortably afford it.jonathan de guzman wrote:Makes sense not to bet, most people don't win. I'm a little above break even. Online poker gives me better rewards, but it's a bit boring so I hardly do that anymore too.Johannes wrote:jonathan de guzman wrote:Johannes wrote:jonathan de guzman wrote:actually I did (yesterday) 25 euri on both.Johannes wrote:Ajax wont win it , put your money on AZ + Feyenoord
The reward could be pleasing
I never really bet , to be honest i never have (and don't intend to)
but the odds are good
And like leo says, if your not breaking even (in the minus) quit, and find another hobby.
So you like poker too, eh leo.
What stakes do you play? And which type of poker? (No) limit hold em I presume?
You play poker too?
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jonathan de guzman wrote:
Yep No limit Texas'em at low stake tables. Think I should be able to win playing at higher stakes tables too (there are so many online players around who overestimate themselves), but I don't want to play for too much money.
You play poker too?
Yep, and franky I'd play more if I had the time and more money. But I'm still sensible and its not a priority for me, so I'm not going to gamble with tens of thousands of Euros - I'd like to keep it round thousand mark (that's my kitty and I never stray). I'm on the winning side of course. I don't intent to be a pro or anything - I couldn't imagine anything duller to waste your life doing in all honesty.
I used to play 8-10 hours everyday - live play not internet. Lately about 10-13 hours a week. I know dozens of people that use the net, I watch along or do some coaching or help 'invest', but I never play on the net. The people on there might as well be giving their money away IMO.
How low are your low stakes on the net?
There's too many subtelties about it all - I'm quite good at it (I won't call myself a pro nor a semi pro though - stay humble, that's the way forward). I play live in a good club, not one of those shitty friends places where you sleepwalk to the prizes. And I do win regularly - its a well known spot in Nijmegen (wont mention the name obviously) where even some pros come to play, so the level is pretty high - but you still get enough donkeys around.
I scome naturally to me, playing it understanding it, and reading people. There are plenty of (amateur) internet poker players that come around always winnig on the net, then getting absolutely raped in live play.
Its all about the subtleties: on the net you have to make constant overbets and not playing the odds, but live some of the people that play there do notice everything (tells, betting patterns, playing style, change of gear etc) and I mean everything, including me.
And most people cannot adapt to that, or are completely oblivious to it.
People generally think that poker is solely for bluffing and no limit poker is solely for moving in. If you can exploit those general (=98% of poeple) mindsets you can a lot of fun.
Me, I don't like cash play that much really, but prefer sit and go's or tournaments. You can never remove the element of bad luck, and if someone hits their one outer on the river in a STG or tounament then you cannot lose more than you have already bet. In a cashgame you'd lose your entire bankroll with bad luck.
Good players don't rely on luck, bad ones do. There's also optimal play and exploitative play.
How's your playing?
EDIT: long post. If you have any questions and 'breinbrekers' let me know. I'd gladly help if I can. There's so much to the game that its near impossible to document them all. And there's only so much the good books can teach you (the shite ones aren't even good enough to wipe your arse with).
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I've a few few hundred euro kitties. But I've been nearly dormant last couple of years. Mate of mine plays 10 hours a day and is doing very well. He thought me a lot (about playing online) was pretty OK at smaller live table games with less (not 8-10 but 4-6) pretty OK players.
My playing. I play my opponents, depends on the quality of the opposition, where the quality is positioned on the table, the average aggresiveness, etc.
Against Cr@p oppositon I pretend to be more predictable.
Against good opposition I mix it up a lot & create chaos, no standard raises, can raise low or high up to 10* BB independent of cards. My mate doesn't like playing against me because despite knowing me pretty well, he still finds it hard to get a read on me.
Did 1 live tournament. Really tiring, went pretty well until I called an all in and got beaten by a runner runner straight.
So who do you resemble more when playing live are you an Ivey-like iceman or more like Tony G?
What's your style? Scandinavian, tight, mixed or whatever variation?
My playing. I play my opponents, depends on the quality of the opposition, where the quality is positioned on the table, the average aggresiveness, etc.
Against Cr@p oppositon I pretend to be more predictable.
Against good opposition I mix it up a lot & create chaos, no standard raises, can raise low or high up to 10* BB independent of cards. My mate doesn't like playing against me because despite knowing me pretty well, he still finds it hard to get a read on me.
Did 1 live tournament. Really tiring, went pretty well until I called an all in and got beaten by a runner runner straight.
So who do you resemble more when playing live are you an Ivey-like iceman or more like Tony G?
What's your style? Scandinavian, tight, mixed or whatever variation?
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Sounds like your doing alright for yourself.
It important to play high quality poker, and always trying to learn more. If you're in a situatio where you cnanot learn more, or you feel its getting stale, then you ned to move on or find other players. I've been to other places where 'friends' play against another and its often some of the worst poker you can ever witness. So bad its not even fun to play anymore - even if you're winning. Things like: (preflop) raise, reraise, call, reraise and the highest card among them was a QTo .
Lately I've come to the conclusion that my playing style has completely evolved over the years: I used to be tight agressive now I'm almost bordering on maniac loose-aggressive. Which is a good thing, I can outplay most everyone after the flop and I can literally play with any two cards and lots of people don't dare raising against me.
It hasn't come overnight at all, mind you; I was always learning and kept adding weapons to my arsenal until it was that effective. Its has to do with: opposition, their betting patterns, tells, position, not panicking, how many people in the pot; odds & pot odds and such are the basic things, but keep I also track of postflop betting paterns, their card values, expected values and their bluffing probability. The latter two are important if you want to profitable postflop. I´m good at math so that's why some of it is easier for me than for others.
Oh yeah, and I show my cards a lot (to certain tables) . People know that I'm capable of calling with 57o while they know that I was fully aware they were playing with a AJ, AQ, AK. And so on. I vary my betting a lot, but it depends on the situation. Also, I´m capable of calling with everything (that's because I know what they're raising with), but myself I don't raise with everything.
I may look like a maniac but when they see my stack at every table I play, they realise its not a fluke.
I'm not afraid to bet in a big pot, nor am I distracted by it. I'm also perfectly comfortable playing shortstacked, so when people suck out on me I don't tilt, and earn it back. I can make laydowns too.
This has only recently dawned upon me that my style was really evolving into a Gus Hansen style (!!). It has taken years though and lots of hours (over 1000+). And I still prefer being tight aggresive depending on the table, so I switch it alot.
A lot of people think they're being unpredictable by being loose, but their just playing bad - it took me years and personally, I'm still trying to find the right balance at times.
The money I use to go clubbing or have a drink, cinema, buy CDs - things like that.
It important to play high quality poker, and always trying to learn more. If you're in a situatio where you cnanot learn more, or you feel its getting stale, then you ned to move on or find other players. I've been to other places where 'friends' play against another and its often some of the worst poker you can ever witness. So bad its not even fun to play anymore - even if you're winning. Things like: (preflop) raise, reraise, call, reraise and the highest card among them was a QTo .
Lately I've come to the conclusion that my playing style has completely evolved over the years: I used to be tight agressive now I'm almost bordering on maniac loose-aggressive. Which is a good thing, I can outplay most everyone after the flop and I can literally play with any two cards and lots of people don't dare raising against me.
It hasn't come overnight at all, mind you; I was always learning and kept adding weapons to my arsenal until it was that effective. Its has to do with: opposition, their betting patterns, tells, position, not panicking, how many people in the pot; odds & pot odds and such are the basic things, but keep I also track of postflop betting paterns, their card values, expected values and their bluffing probability. The latter two are important if you want to profitable postflop. I´m good at math so that's why some of it is easier for me than for others.
Oh yeah, and I show my cards a lot (to certain tables)
. People know that I'm capable of calling with 57o while they know that I was fully aware they were playing with a AJ, AQ, AK. And so on. I vary my betting a lot, but it depends on the situation. Also, I´m capable of calling with everything (that's because I know what they're raising with), but myself I don't raise with everything.I may look like a maniac but when they see my stack at every table I play, they realise its not a fluke.
I'm not afraid to bet in a big pot, nor am I distracted by it. I'm also perfectly comfortable playing shortstacked, so when people suck out on me I don't tilt, and earn it back. I can make laydowns too.
This has only recently dawned upon me that my style was really evolving into a Gus Hansen style (!!). It has taken years though and lots of hours (over 1000+). And I still prefer being tight aggresive depending on the table, so I switch it alot.
A lot of people think they're being unpredictable by being loose, but their just playing bad - it took me years and personally, I'm still trying to find the right balance at times.
The money I use to go clubbing or have a drink, cinema, buy CDs - things like that.
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Didn't see this.jonathan de guzman wrote:
So who do you resemble more when playing live are you an Ivey-like iceman or more like Tony G?
What's your style? Scandinavian, tight, mixed or whatever variation?
Well I'm actually more of an Ivey type watcher - I watch everyone at the table at all times. Especially when I'm not in the game. I don't use sunglasses or anything becasue people can't read me. And I've been told I'm intimidating that way to play against, because they know they're being watched (those who noticed). And you can mostly pick the actors out, and do the opposite of what they want.
I sometimes use some bullying tactics as well: talk, ask questions, show one of my cards etc. I hear in their voice sometimes if they have something or not.
As for my style, I think my other post covers it pretty much. Evolved from tight to my own style really (bit Scandinavian though). I can stick with one style for a short STG, but for tournies you have to switch - your in no hurry, its a marathon after all.
I switch mostly I suppose - in the sense that I don't let certain opportunities pass me by.
For example if two people go all in and even if you know one's got AQs or higher and the other QQ or higher, then depending on my stack size (can I afford it or am I desperate, how clos eam I too the big money) situation etc. I'll push anything between 45s to TJs in there too (higher, lower or offsuit, I fold). Almost a no brainer for me if there's three people in front of me.
I know for a fact that I'd be ahead preflop (preflop odds counting - little to do with pot odds). A certain suited connector is almost always ahead preflop even if there's a AA in the game as well (believe it or not), depends on how many players in the pot, position and what you think they have.
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Bunch of gamble addicts...you know its a jewish invention and the house always wins in the end do you
Anyway, Castelen will most likely go to PSG! I hope we get some good money for him or swap him with Kalou!!! Stupid Amsterdammer!!
And Zuiverloon will most likely go to Duivendrecht, I hope he brakes his legs. Maybe we can snatch Maduro?
Anyway, Castelen will most likely go to PSG! I hope we get some good money for him or swap him with Kalou!!! Stupid Amsterdammer!!
And Zuiverloon will most likely go to Duivendrecht, I hope he brakes his legs. Maybe we can snatch Maduro?
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Sounds like you've got your game sorted.
My math was the first thing that was sound (already when I was a teener. I'm a beta geek), my own 'fuzzy' game evolved over years. My main strength is judging others & adapting/mixing my game. Have no problems making laydowns either (integral part of my game). Apart from that I talk a lot (if it's useful I get on peoples nerves). What about you are you quiet or do you talk?
Think I will try a few more live money tournaments in the future, my mate keeps on pushing me to do so. Will change 1 thing from the first time I did one. Take more rest (go away more hands, that's what he suggested), so I stay more focussed (had problems with my concentration).
edit: On your comment on internetplayers going live. So true. Actually for me it was the other way around played live for years and had to adapt to internet. Totally different ballgame. I prefer live. Tournaments are a different ballgame form single table games too. What I hated about the tournament was that it developed so slowly. It's a freaking endurance sport.
My math was the first thing that was sound (already when I was a teener. I'm a beta geek), my own 'fuzzy' game evolved over years. My main strength is judging others & adapting/mixing my game. Have no problems making laydowns either (integral part of my game). Apart from that I talk a lot (if it's useful I get on peoples nerves). What about you are you quiet or do you talk?
Think I will try a few more live money tournaments in the future, my mate keeps on pushing me to do so. Will change 1 thing from the first time I did one. Take more rest (go away more hands, that's what he suggested), so I stay more focussed (had problems with my concentration).
edit: On your comment on internetplayers going live. So true. Actually for me it was the other way around played live for years and had to adapt to internet. Totally different ballgame. I prefer live. Tournaments are a different ballgame form single table games too. What I hated about the tournament was that it developed so slowly. It's a freaking endurance sport.
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Don't want that stoned Maduro.Fey wrote:Bunch of gamble addicts...you know its a jewish invention and the house always wins in the end do you
Anyway, Castelen will most likely go to PSG! I hope we get some good money for him or swap him with Kalou!!! Stupid Amsterdammer!!
And Zuiverloon will most likely go to Duivendrecht, I hope he brakes his legs. Maybe we can snatch Maduro?
I'll ask my mother-in-law to cast a wicked Winti-spell on Zuiverloon. Fucking c**t!
Catselen is to injury prone, a few M and I'm happy.
Nothing better than winning money from Jews
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interesting read guys...(the poker part that is )
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Rosicky wrote:interesting read guys...(the poker part that is
Feyenoord>>>Arsenal these days Scott..everyone knows that!
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jonathan de guzman wrote:Don't want that stoned Maduro.Fey wrote:Bunch of gamble addicts...you know its a jewish invention and the house always wins in the end do you
Anyway, Castelen will most likely go to PSG! I hope we get some good money for him or swap him with Kalou!!! Stupid Amsterdammer!!
And Zuiverloon will most likely go to Duivendrecht, I hope he brakes his legs. Maybe we can snatch Maduro?
I'll ask my mother-in-law to cast a wicked Winti-spell on Zuiverloon. Fucking c**t!
Catselen is to injury prone, a few M and I'm happey.
Nothing better than winning money from Jews
I still think he will be a good stand in for Gio. Shouldnt cost that much, and we get to annoy Ajax.
Still Zuiverloon is a c**t for wanting to go to Ajax and play RB!!! Lets put a shitload of spells on him if he does
And why doesnt Castelent want to stay, I mean if he goes to PSG we probably never hear from him again!
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IF (big if) Castelen stays fit he could do very well in France. His pace might be more useful in Ligue1 (with lots of counterattacking) than in the EPL withconstant pace. But PSG? it's a fucked up club, they're jinxed like Schalke or us in the past.Fey wrote:jonathan de guzman wrote:Don't want that stoned Maduro.Fey wrote:Bunch of gamble addicts...you know its a jewish invention and the house always wins in the end do you
Anyway, Castelen will most likely go to PSG! I hope we get some good money for him or swap him with Kalou!!! Stupid Amsterdammer!!
And Zuiverloon will most likely go to Duivendrecht, I hope he brakes his legs. Maybe we can snatch Maduro?
I'll ask my mother-in-law to cast a wicked Winti-spell on Zuiverloon. Fucking c**t!
Catselen is to injury prone, a few M and I'm happey.
Nothing better than winning money from Jews
I still think he will be a good stand in for Gio. Shouldnt cost that much, and we get to annoy Ajax.
Still Zuiverloon is a c**t for wanting to go to Ajax and play RB!!! Lets put a shitload of spells on him if he does
And why doesnt Castelent want to stay, I mean if he goes to PSG we probably never hear from him again!
DD- Number of posts : 10721
Age : 44
Supports : NEC
Registration date : 2006-08-07
I am mostly quiet, but I do talk from time to time. If you're quiet you can focus on many other things.jonathan de guzman wrote:Sounds like you've got your game sorted.
My math was the first thing that was sound (already when I was a teener. I'm a beta geek), my own 'fuzzy' game evolved over years. My main strength is judging others & adapting/mixing my game. Have no problems making laydowns either (integral part of my game). Apart from that I talk a lot (if it's useful I get on peoples nerves). What about you are you quiet or do you talk?
Think I will try a few more live money tournaments in the future, my mate keeps on pushing me to do so. Will change 1 thing from the first time I did one. Take more rest (go away more hands, that's what he suggested), so I stay more focussed (had problems with my concentration).
You should try a few other tournies, but see if you can find cheap ones around €50 (or lower), and just play a bit tight at first. Use your time to assess the players, count the hands played, count your players hand and what they play at what position. Try just playing the good cards at first.
Fold AT under the gun at first the first levels (yes really), an dplay the better ones. Its not a sprint, but a marathon. Oh yeah, and don't overbet - one of the biggest mistakes of internet poker players who go live. Play your pot odds like a good boy at first and then switch up your gam ea few levels further.
From what you've already told me is that you have a good sense of the game, which is beter than plenty of people at any given tournie.
You'll be able to do alright as long as your not sprinting. And keep your attention, and NEVER getting frustrated. If you do, you can lose it all in one hand - likely the next one.
DD- Number of posts : 10721
Age : 44
Supports : NEC
Registration date : 2006-08-07
jonathan de guzman wrote:IF (big if) Castelen stays fit he could do very well in France. His pace might be more useful in Ligue1 (with lots of counterattacking) than in the EPL withconstant pace. But PSG? it's a fucked up club, they're jinxed like Schalke or us in the past.Fey wrote:jonathan de guzman wrote:Don't want that stoned Maduro.Fey wrote:Bunch of gamble addicts...you know its a jewish invention and the house always wins in the end do you
Anyway, Castelen will most likely go to PSG! I hope we get some good money for him or swap him with Kalou!!! Stupid Amsterdammer!!
And Zuiverloon will most likely go to Duivendrecht, I hope he brakes his legs. Maybe we can snatch Maduro?
I'll ask my mother-in-law to cast a wicked Winti-spell on Zuiverloon. Fucking c**t!
Catselen is to injury prone, a few M and I'm happey.
Nothing better than winning money from Jews
I still think he will be a good stand in for Gio. Shouldnt cost that much, and we get to annoy Ajax.
Still Zuiverloon is a c**t for wanting to go to Ajax and play RB!!! Lets put a shitload of spells on him if he does
And why doesnt Castelent want to stay, I mean if he goes to PSG we probably never hear from him again!
SuperMario- Number of posts : 16866
Age : 57
Supports : Feyenoord & Arsenal
Favourite Player : Diego Biseswar
Registration date : 2006-11-10
True. I mainly talk after hands but am not always quiet when playing. I talk during play to get info. Doesn't affect my watching of opponents & hardly need any time for maths.DD wrote:I am mostly quiet, but I do talk from time to time. If you're quiet you can focus on many other things.jonathan de guzman wrote:Sounds like you've got your game sorted.
My math was the first thing that was sound (already when I was a teener. I'm a beta geek), my own 'fuzzy' game evolved over years. My main strength is judging others & adapting/mixing my game. Have no problems making laydowns either (integral part of my game). Apart from that I talk a lot (if it's useful I get on peoples nerves). What about you are you quiet or do you talk?
Think I will try a few more live money tournaments in the future, my mate keeps on pushing me to do so. Will change 1 thing from the first time I did one. Take more rest (go away more hands, that's what he suggested), so I stay more focussed (had problems with my concentration).
You should try a few other tournies, but see if you can find cheap ones around €50 (or lower), and just play a bit tight at first. Use your time to assess the players, count the hands played, count your players hand and what they play at what position. Try just playing the good cards at first.
Fold AT under the gun at first the first levels (yes really), an dplay the better ones. Its not a sprint, but a marathon. Oh yeah, and don't overbet - one of the biggest mistakes of internet poker players who go live. Play your pot odds like a good boy at first and then switch up your gam ea few levels further.
From what you've already told me is that you have a good sense of the game, which is beter than plenty of people at any given tournie.
You'll be able to do alright as long as your not sprinting. And keep your attention, and NEVER getting frustrated. If you do, you can lose it all in one hand - likely the next one.
That 1st tourney I did was €100. My mate suggested about a similar gameplan as you did. Was a bit more aggresive, but pretty tight early on. We started with approx 150. Went out 29th with a bad beat (was so gutted I set him up, put the rope around his neck and he was so lucky, well that's poker). Wasn't short stacked (was about 20th, but was time to make a move, only final 8 got prize money) but had to call that all in and lost nearly all my chips (had to go all in shortly thereafter).
Fey- Number of posts : 35349
Supports : Feyenoord and Manchester United
Favourite Player : ??#$ Error, John Guidetti, Jordy Clasie
Registration date : 2006-08-07
Ok guys...what about the latest Ajax-player. Excellent deal IMO, Jurgen Colin will actually make the team stronger!
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