Sheff Utd investigated for illegal clause

Oh yes, would you believe it. The offence that we did caused immense fuss. Especially from one team known as Sheffield United.

However, Sheffield United included an illegal clause in the contract of Steve Kabba...preventing him from playing against them. Due to him being owned by Watford (a transfer not a loan) this clause is not allowed.



What c**ts eh? all this $h!t and they've done it themselves...utter utter c**ts!

It would have been sad if their primitive football returned to the Premiership anyway.

kas wrote:

It would have been sad if their primitive football returned to the Premiership anyway.

I think they should be docked points themselves now. Not for the clause, but for pushing for "justice" and the fact that they have done the same fucking thing.

Also Dave Whelan's rugby team (Wigan Warriors) were docked points for breaking league rules

See...they are all hypocritical dirty bastards

Evertons Tim Howard couldn't play vs. Man Utd despite the transfer being a full one. I could be wrong though and it may have just been a gentlemans agreement.

Sheffield Utd won't be reinstated, the best they can hope for is a cash settlement.

Cesc wrote:Evertons Tim Howard couldn't play vs. Man Utd despite the transfer being a full one. I could be wrong though and it may have just been a gentlemans agreement.

Sheffield Utd won't be reinstated, the best they can hope for is a cash settlement.

Sheffield United were fucking idiots though, and put the clause in the contract which is not allowed. It is a clause in which a third party has influence (Sheff Utd stopping Watford from playing Kabba). Which is what we were fined £5.5m for.

Watford could also be in $h!t to a lesser extent though...as they also agreed to the contract and clause.

Cesc wrote:Evertons Tim Howard couldn't play vs. Man Utd despite the transfer being a full one. I could be wrong though and it may have just been a gentlemans agreement.

Sheffield Utd won't be reinstated, the best they can hope for is a cash settlement.

Cesc, i think it was a gentlemans agreement

kas wrote:

It would have been sad if their primitive football returned to the Premiership anyway.

Its true, I must say i'm not keen on Sheff Utd at all

Crouching Punty wrote:

Cesc wrote:Evertons Tim Howard couldn't play vs. Man Utd despite the transfer being a full one. I could be wrong though and it may have just been a gentlemans agreement.

Sheffield Utd won't be reinstated, the best they can hope for is a cash settlement.

Cesc, i think it was a gentlemans agreement

I think he was technically still on loan and the transfer of the registration will only happen this summer with all the details agreed in the January window. If this is not the case then IMO is was 3rd party influence and both teams should be docked points. No such thins as Gentleman's agreements should be allowed to weaken opposition teams.

shazlx wrote:

Crouching Punty wrote:

Cesc wrote:Evertons Tim Howard couldn't play vs. Man Utd despite the transfer being a full one. I could be wrong though and it may have just been a gentlemans agreement.

Sheffield Utd won't be reinstated, the best they can hope for is a cash settlement.

Cesc, i think it was a gentlemans agreement

I think he was technically still on loan and the transfer of the registration will only happen this summer with all the details agreed in the January window. If this is not the case then IMO is was 3rd party influence and both teams should be docked points. No such thins as Gentleman's agreements should be allowed to weaken opposition teams.

Third party influence doesn't result in points docking though. That's for registration problems.

Sheff Utd should be fined £5.5m like we was though!

Watford beat us 1-0 in a relegation battle with Steve Kabba playing.

Sheff Utd beat Watford 1-0 in a relegation battle where Steve Kabba didn't play because of an illegal clause.

Sheff Utd are fucked

Lucas Deano Neill wrote:Watford beat us 1-0 in a relegation battle with Steve Kabba playing.

Sheff Utd beat Watford 1-0 in a relegation battle where Steve Kabba didn't play because of an illegal clause.

Sheff Utd are fucked

Watford more so apparently.

I don't know why we would be more responsible but if we are docked points and/or fined then I couldn't really have any complaints providing Man Utd are punished similarly re Tim Howard.

Of course, anyone who's watched Steve Kabba will know that the teams that did play against him were the ones at an advantage.

Pierre Littbarski wrote:

Lucas Deano Neill wrote:Watford beat us 1-0 in a relegation battle with Steve Kabba playing.

Sheff Utd beat Watford 1-0 in a relegation battle where Steve Kabba didn't play because of an illegal clause.

Sheff Utd are fucked

Watford more so apparently.

I don't know why we would be more responsible but if we are docked points and/or fined then I couldn't really have any complaints providing Man Utd are punished similarly re Tim Howard.

Of course, anyone who's watched Steve Kabba will know that the teams that did play against him were the ones at an advantage.

The thing is...Howard's contract didn't have it written into it. MEANING that Everton could have indeed played Howard and Man Utd could have done no more than be angry a verbal agreement was broken.

Sheff Utd are the ones looking like the idiots though, and I don't think anything will happen to Watford. Sheff Utd have breached a more serious rule than Watford. They should be fined £5.5m IMO...

The Tim Howard thing is very different, because he was on loan at Everton all season anyway, and I think EPL rules would therefore have prevented him from playing against Man U for the duration of his loan period. As I remember, the deal to permanently transfer him took place outside the transfer window, so it won't actually go through until this summer, i.e. now.

Maybe there's some clause in loan deals about permanent transfers being able to take place outside of the windows, I dunno. Regardless, Man U tried to get it written into the deal that Howard wouldn't play against them, and the EPL said no, so I can only assume that the gentleman's agreement was then made. Of course, Moyes knew full well that if Man U won the title this season, Everton would get another chunk of money from the Rooney transfer.

Suzie Quatro wrote:The Tim Howard thing is very different, because he was on loan at Everton all season anyway, and I think EPL rules would therefore have prevented him from playing against Man U for the duration of his loan period. As I remember, the deal to permanently transfer him took place outside the transfer window, so it won't actually go through until this summer, i.e. now.

Maybe there's some clause in loan deals about permanent transfers being able to take place outside of the windows, I dunno. Regardless, Man U tried to get it written into the deal that Howard wouldn't play against them, and the EPL said no, so I can only assume that the gentleman's agreement was then made. Of course, Moyes knew full well that if Man U won the title this season, Everton would get another chunk of money from the Rooney transfer.

Yup!

The Premier League states that no clause can be written into a contract preventing a transfered player from playing against his former club. Sheff Utd breached this rule (A clause where a third party has influence). Sheff Utd admitted this clause to the Premiership and thought by doing this it was OK.

Basically they thought admitting breaking a rule means they are allowed to do so

McCabe is now trying to say they have done nothing wrong

£5.5m fine please

You're not going to let this one drop, are you?


You are right though, Sheffield have well and truly fucked themselves with this one, particularly with the tribunal regarding the Tevez issue taking place tomorrow.

Suzie Quatro wrote:You're not going to let this one drop, are you?


You are right though, Sheffield have well and truly fucked themselves with this one, particularly with the tribunal regarding the Tevez issue taking place tomorrow.

They have been trying to f@ck us over since the day they were relegated. They haven't stopped going on about it, got us fined £5.5m and still carried on. The fact that they have broken the same as us makes me sick at their actions for the past month!

So I don't want it dropped until something is done about them.

Sheff U and West Ham should both be docked points, that means Charlton are saved from relegation.

Murray wrote:Sheff U and West Ham should both be docked points, that means Charlton are saved from relegation.

Erm no because the offence does not warrant docking points.

Such a fucking plank

Liverpool are the mystery club supporting Sheffield United's bid to be reinstated to the Premier League. Interesting...

Got nothing to do with wanting to sign 3 of their players, of course

Cesc wrote:Liverpool are the mystery club supporting Sheffield United's bid to be reinstated to the Premier League. Interesting...

What?

Fucking dirty scouse wankers.

Lucas Deano Neill wrote:

Cesc wrote:Liverpool are the mystery club supporting Sheffield United's bid to be reinstated to the Premier League. Interesting...

What?

Fucking dirty scouse wankers.

You have to love these paper rumours

Luis wrote:

Lucas Deano Neill wrote:

Cesc wrote:Liverpool are the mystery club supporting Sheffield United's bid to be reinstated to the Premier League. Interesting...

What?

Fucking dirty scouse wankers.

You have to love these paper rumours

Is it a paper rumour though?

Wouldn't surprise me, you know Tevez looks unlikely to join you and you won't be getting Benayoun. Dirty tactic.

It's on BBC sport.

Rick Parry was there.

So how would angering your club help with the Benayoun transfer?

'Liverpool support Sheff Utd'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/s/sheff_utd/6761225.stm

Parry probably had to give some story about Mascherano

Parks lives wrote:It's on BBC sport.

Rick Parry was there.

Yeah - as a witness. Not sure to what extent that means we are supporting Sheffield's case. The only thing I can think of is that Parry will testify on the amount of work we had to do to ensure that our contract with Mascherano was OK even though WHU's was clearly illegal

So are Liverpool supporting The hypocrites or not?