TOP LEAGUES IN THE WORLD

Looks like Lalas has left a lot of assholes burning with his latest interview. He says the MLS is one of the best leagues around the world. He obviously was just selling the league using English media to send his message around the world. YOU rank the best leagues from around the world. Here's my list:

#1 La Liga, #2 Serie A, then EPL, Brasil, France, México, Argentina, Germany, Portugal, Netherlands, Colombia, Russia, Belgium, Uruguay, Chile, Paraguay, Scotland, Perú, Ukraine, Turkey, Greece, Czechia, MLS, Bulgaria, Switzerland. That's it, my top 25 leagues from around the world.

If Serie A is better than the premiership i'm a dutchmans uncle.

You do sound dutch...

How did I forget you in the other thread , one of the most pro-EPL posters on the board, definately more than Tweedy!!

Kimbo wrote:If Serie A is better than the premiership i'm a dutchmans uncle.

Kimbo wrote:If Serie A is better than the premiership i'm a dutchmans uncle.

That's your opinion Kimbo! Let's see your top 25 leagues. By the way, I forgot Romania, they go right behind Holland so #25 Switzerland are out.

Puro wrote:

Kimbo wrote:If Serie A is better than the premiership i'm a dutchmans uncle.

That's your opinion Kimbo! Let's see your top 25 leagues. By the way, I forgot Romania, they go right behind Holland so #25 Switzerland are out.

I don't watch 25 leagues Puro, and neither do you.


@ bluenine

I'm not pro EPL at all, i've been the most critical person on the board when it comes to non top 4 teams, La Liga pisses on us in terms of strength in depth.

Puro wrote:
#1 La Liga, #2 Serie A, then EPL, Brasil, France, México, Argentina, Germany, Portugal, Netherlands, Colombia, Russia, Belgium, Uruguay, Chile, Paraguay, Scotland, Perú, Ukraine, Turkey, Greece, Czechia, MLS, Bulgaria, Switzerland. That's it, my top 25 leagues from around the world.

haha

are you trying to pick a fight with the Germans on here

you might bite off more than you can chew

Puro wrote:

#1 La Liga, #2 Serie A, then EPL, Brasil, France, México, Argentina, Germany, Portugal, Netherlands, Colombia, Russia, Belgium, Uruguay, Chile, Paraguay, Scotland, Perú, Ukraine, Turkey, Greece, Czechia, MLS, Bulgaria, Switzerland. That's it, my top 25 leagues from around the world.

Serie A above the EPL? how did you work that one out?

You've also put Portugal far too low down.

I don't think you can rate leagues in that way, its easier to put them into classes - first rung, 2nd rund, third rung etc..

Based on last season, I can only do top 5 fropm europe:


1. EPL
2. La Liga
3. Serie A
4. Germany
5. Portugal / Holland / France

bluenine wrote:Based on last season, I can only do top 5 fropm europe:


1. EPL
2. La Liga
3. Serie A
4. Germany
5. Portugal / Holland / France

You call me biased, then you agree with me.

Kimbo wrote:
I don't watch 25 leagues Puro, and neither do you.

I don't watch all 25 leagues obviously, BUT I have a pretty good idea of where they rank Kimbo bro!

1st rung: EPL, la liga, Serie A

2nd rung: ligue 1, Primera liga, Bundesliga, Eredivisie

3rd rung: SPL, Turkish league, Russian league, Ukrainian league

4th rung: Greek league, Belgian leagues, Swiss league, Romanian league

etc etc...

If you are not pro-EPL, then I am a ducthmans uncles grandad!

Kimbo wrote:

Puro wrote:

Kimbo wrote:If Serie A is better than the premiership i'm a dutchmans uncle.

That's your opinion Kimbo! Let's see your top 25 leagues. By the way, I forgot Romania, they go right behind Holland so #25 Switzerland are out.

I don't watch 25 leagues Puro, and neither do you.


@ bluenine

I'm not pro EPL at all, i've been the most critical person on the board when it comes to non top 4 teams, La Liga pisses on us in terms of strength in depth.

Tweedle wrote:

Serie A above the EPL? how did you work that one out?

You've also put Portugal far too low down.

I don't think you can rate leagues in that way, its easier to put them into classes - first rung, 2nd rund, third rung etc..

I'm ranking the whole league, not just the top 4 teams you know!

No, Portugal is correct! right in between Germany and Holland.

Puro wrote:

Tweedle wrote:

Serie A above the EPL? how did you work that one out?

You've also put Portugal far too low down.

I don't think you can rate leagues in that way, its easier to put them into classes - first rung, 2nd rund, third rung etc..

I'm ranking the whole league, not just the top 4 teams you know!

No, Portugal is correct! right in between Germany and Holland.

I get that - I think you'll find that Serie A hasn't done too hotly in the UEFA cup this season though - the EPL at least managed to get three teams in the last 16.

The top 3 ebb and flow though, next season it could all be different

Tweedle wrote:
I get that - I think you'll find that Serie A hasn't done too hotly in the UEFA cup this season though - the EPL at least managed to get three teams in the last 16.

The top 3 ebb and flow though, next season it could all be different

Alright Tweedle! I give you EPL over Serie A this past season.

Well, you are biased and pro-EPL as hell, but there are still some things we will agree on...

I am sure if we discuss how much difference is there between EPL and Serie A, we will have a 1000 things we disagree upon! Coz I don't think there are much of a difference between the top 3 leagues last season...

Kimbo wrote:

bluenine wrote:Based on last season, I can only do top 5 fropm europe:


1. EPL
2. La Liga
3. Serie A
4. Germany
5. Portugal / Holland / France

You call me biased, then you agree with me.

Tweedle wrote:

Puro wrote:

Tweedle wrote:

Serie A above the EPL? how did you work that one out?

You've also put Portugal far too low down.

I don't think you can rate leagues in that way, its easier to put them into classes - first rung, 2nd rund, third rung etc..

I'm ranking the whole league, not just the top 4 teams you know!

No, Portugal is correct! right in between Germany and Holland.

I get that - I think you'll find that Serie A hasn't done too hotly in the UEFA cup this season though - the EPL at least managed to get three teams in the last 16.

The top 3 ebb and flow though, next season it could all be different

Is that relevant ?

Tweedy, if you look back at the team roosters in the last 10 years, you will realise that Italian teams gradually but surely stopped taking UEFA Cup seriously ever since the CWC was scrapped and the CL was formed.... so your arguement is totally flawed, coz you are comparing the top starting XIs of EPL and La Liga in UEFA Cup against reserves of the Italian teams...

Tweedle wrote:

Puro wrote:

Tweedle wrote:

Serie A above the EPL? how did you work that one out?

You've also put Portugal far too low down.

I don't think you can rate leagues in that way, its easier to put them into classes - first rung, 2nd rund, third rung etc..

I'm ranking the whole league, not just the top 4 teams you know!

No, Portugal is correct! right in between Germany and Holland.

I get that - I think you'll find that Serie A hasn't done too hotly in the UEFA cup this season though - the EPL at least managed to get three teams in the last 16.

The top 3 ebb and flow though, next season it could all be different

Pierre Littbarski wrote:

Tweedle wrote:

Puro wrote:

Tweedle wrote:

Serie A above the EPL? how did you work that one out?

You've also put Portugal far too low down.

I don't think you can rate leagues in that way, its easier to put them into classes - first rung, 2nd rund, third rung etc..

I'm ranking the whole league, not just the top 4 teams you know!

No, Portugal is correct! right in between Germany and Holland.

I get that - I think you'll find that Serie A hasn't done too hotly in the UEFA cup this season though - the EPL at least managed to get three teams in the last 16.

The top 3 ebb and flow though, next season it could all be different

Is that relevant ?

If we're talking about strengt in depth, its the only judge really

France is such a big league, the teams perform really well in Europe! The number of won finals is countless!

Yo Tweedle!

1st rung: La Liga (undisputed #1 by some margin!)

2nd rung: EPL, Serie A

3rd rung: Ligue 1, Brasil, México, Bundesliga, Argentina, Superliga, Eredivisie

4th rung: Colombia, Romania, Russia, Uruguay, Chile, Paraguay, SPL, Ukraine, Belgium, Perú,

5th rung: Czechia, Greece, Turkey, Bulgaria, MLS, Switzerland

bluenine wrote:Tweedy, if you look back at the team roosters in the last 10 years, you will realise that Italian teams gradually but surely stopped taking UEFA Cup seriously ever since the CWC was scrapped and the CL was formed.... so your arguement is totally flawed, coz you are comparing the top starting XIs of EPL and La Liga in UEFA Cup against reserves of the Italian teams...

Well they should

The Italian cup is hardly worth competing for.

At least in the EPL you have the FA cup and the Worthington Cup (which is taken as seriously as the Italian cup)

Italians have no excuse for not taking the UEFA cup seriously

Put Turkey in the 3rd rung.

Puro wrote: Looks like Lalas has left a lot of assholes burning with his latest interview. He says the MLS is one of the best leagues around the world. He obviously was just selling the league using English media to send his message around the world. YOU rank the best leagues from around the world. Here's my list:

#1 La Liga, #2 Serie A, then EPL, Brasil, France, México, Argentina, Germany, Portugal, Netherlands, Colombia, Russia, Belgium, Uruguay, Chile, Paraguay, Scotland, Perú, Ukraine, Turkey, Greece, Czechia, MLS, Bulgaria, Switzerland. That's it, my top 25 leagues from around the world.

Personally, I'd put Argentina ahead of Brasil and México...but I don't really watch Mexican fútbol.

I really like the Argentine league, there's real passion and quality there. Brasil is a little slow for my liking, but the league's results speak for itself.

Down with Abete!!! Tweedy for FIGC Chief!!

Tweedle wrote:

bluenine wrote:Tweedy, if you look back at the team roosters in the last 10 years, you will realise that Italian teams gradually but surely stopped taking UEFA Cup seriously ever since the CWC was scrapped and the CL was formed.... so your arguement is totally flawed, coz you are comparing the top starting XIs of EPL and La Liga in UEFA Cup against reserves of the Italian teams...

Well they should

The Italian cup is hardly worth competing for.

At least in the EPL you have the FA cup and the Worthington Cup (which is taken as seriously as the Italian cup)

Italians have no excuse for not taking the UEFA cup seriously

Tweedle wrote:1st rung: EPL, la liga, Serie A

2nd rung: ligue 1, Primera liga, Bundesliga, Eredivisie

3rd rung: SPL, Turkish league, Russian league, Ukrainian league

4th rung: Greek league, Belgian leagues, Swiss league, Romanian league

etc etc...

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I'm flattered. A few years ago people were saying we were similar to the "european third division", so I'll look at this as a promotion

*The guy who claimed were 3rd division had just been let go at Sporting...perhaps he was bitter.

I'll agree that the Uefa Cup is the only way to judge the depth of a leauge in comparison with others.

When Portuguese clubs crash and burn in the UC it shows the leauge isn't that strong past the top 3... same for other leagues.

With Boavista and Braga recently doing well, it shows the battle at the top is much more divided. If smaller clubs are pushing to win titles then the big 3 need to put together real squads and not just assume the others will defeat themselves over the course of a season.

I am not disagreeing in general... just that you can't use it to measure Italain teams coz they just do not take the competition seriously... most just put in their reserves teams, some take it seriously until they run into rough weather in Serie A, and then put in reserves... its treated like a micky mouse trophy... they only care about qualifying for it coz that gets them a share of teh tv revenues from uefa...

Hopefully Fiorentina will change that trend next season, coz they have the squad to play in 2-3 championships.... but I wouldn't be too hopeful, their first priority will clearly be Serie A.

So how can you judge Serie A depth by uefa cup performance??

Luso wrote:I'll agree that the Uefa Cup is the only way to judge the depth of a leauge in comparison with others.

When Portuguese clubs crash and burn in the UC it shows the leauge isn't that strong past the top 3... same for other leagues.

With Boavista and Braga recently doing well, it shows the battle at the top is much more divided. If smaller clubs are pushing to win titles then the big 3 need to put together real squads and not just assume the others will defeat themselves over the course of a season.

Brazilian League is going downhill since 2003, but we had all brazilian finals in the 2005 and 2006 Copa Libertadores. So I guess South American football level is even worse, including Argentina.

La Liga, EPL > Serie A > Bundesliga > Portuguese, Dutch and French League