which TALENT will have had the greatest impact

Markus wrote:

Clergymen Superstains wrote:How can Huntelaar be in that list...24 he is! Or 25 even. Then you arent a talent anymore. Especially since it seems the peak of a player went down from 29 to 26/27

Robinho is also 24. C Ronaldo I think is 23 so is Tevez.

Well same goes for them! A talent is 17-19.

Clergymen Superstains wrote:

Markus wrote:

Clergymen Superstains wrote:How can Huntelaar be in that list...24 he is! Or 25 even. Then you arent a talent anymore. Especially since it seems the peak of a player went down from 29 to 26/27

Robinho is also 24. C Ronaldo I think is 23 so is Tevez.

Well same goes for them! A talent is 17-19.

Maybe he meant a current ‘star’ or potential ‘star’ which one at the end of their career would have made the biggest impact.

The 3 players and the 1 you’ve mentioned we can say have not even reached their peak of greatness.

No van Persie?

A year ago he'd have the most votes.

shazlx wrote:

L r d wrote:

shazlx wrote: I would just like to tell you that you have missed out the current best player in the World. Very sloppy.

Hleb? Flamini? Emre? Sears?

Hleb is only the 2nd best. The Kun rules this season.

Yeh Shaz. I think we can all agree that Kun's season has pissed all over Ronaldo's

Juligen wrote:Who the hell is Kun?

Thats a very good question actually.

think a certain Kun Aguero should have been included in this list probably the best u20 in the world at the moment

Better than Messi

at the mo yeah, messi is pure class but it seems he's made of glass too

Tweedle wrote:Better than Messi

Well Messi isn't U20 so...

There's not a better player than Kun who is under 20, and he's better than many above that age group too. I was speaking to an Argie mate yesterday, he said a lot of people back home want him in over Tevez now.

dammit i hate this argentina hype, only because he is argie he is the best

like tevez and mascherano, both were named from most guys here to be world class, only because they played so well in the $h!t south american leagues

Toni Kroos wrote:dammit i hate this argentina hype, only because he is argie he is the best

like tevez and mascherano, both were named from most guys here to be world class, only because they played so well in the $h!t south american leagues

Have you actually seen Aguero play this season Deisler? He has been absolutely superb for Atletico.

Nearly as impressive as Wheater I hear.

borocooper wrote:Nearly as impressive as Wheater I hear.

Or Darren Bent used to be for Charlton or Yakubu for Boro.

Toni Kroos wrote:dammit i hate this argentina hype, only because he is argie he is the best

like tevez and mascherano, both were named from most guys here to be world class, only because they played so well in the $h!t south american leagues

It started long before that Saviola , Aimars and even longer then that.

borocooper wrote:Nearly as impressive as Wheater I hear.

If Wheater was Argentinian he'd already be regarded as a bigger talent than Franco Baresi. If he played in La Liga too he'd be worshipped as the devine lord

Toni Kroos wrote:dammit i hate this argentina hype, only because he is argie he is the best

like tevez and mascherano, both were named from most guys here to be world class, only because they played so well in the $h!t south american leagues

Yea they only play in $h!t leagues, $h!t leagues that regularly produce the top players in the world. It's unfortunate for you, that you have one regularly starting for your side...say's a lot for Bayern Munich's side I guess?

Mascherano is WC. He's certainly better than Hargreaves, or Van Bommel, and pretty much every other DM in the world. Tevez probably isn't WC, but nevertheless he's a very talented SS.

As for Aguero, he's almost single-handedly dragged Atleti to success this season, he was the reason Argentina won the U20 WC (Germany conspicuous by their absence); winning golden boot and golden ball, and he's now a regular for the 2nd ranked team in the world.

Your WUM'age (much like LRD) is incredibly grating.

Dark Savante wrote:

Toni Kroos wrote:dammit i hate this argentina hype, only because he is argie he is the best

like tevez and mascherano, both were named from most guys here to be world class, only because they played so well in the $h!t south american leagues

It started long before that Saviola , Aimars and even longer then that.

Toni Kroos wrote:dammit i hate this argentina hype, only because he is argie he is the best

like tevez and mascherano, both were named from most guys here to be world class, only because they played so well in the $h!t south american leagues

Tweedle wrote:

borocooper wrote:Nearly as impressive as Wheater I hear.

If Wheater was Argentinian he'd already be regarded as a bigger talent than Franco Baresi.

Everybody is awake to this obscene Argie hype.

Woah! Tevez won South American Player of the Year three seasons running!

Sure he hasn't been that impressive this season but he's had to adapt. Not many players can immediately adjust to a new style of play. Judge him after next season me thinks.

Tweedle wrote:Woah! Tevez won South American Player of the Year three seasons running!

Sure he hasn't been that impressive this season but he's had to adapt. Not many players can immediately adjust to a new style of play. Judge him after next season me thinks.

Tevez is talented. But he hasn't performed to a WC level in England or for his national side. Matias Fernandez also won SAPOTY (probably the first outwith Brasil/Argentina for a while), he too has struggled. Can't really call him world class, though he's obviously supremely talented.

Aguero has proven himself at youth level, in the UEFA Cup (5 goals in 4 games) and in the Primera scoring against (Sevilla, Barca, Madrid, Villarreal, Valencia, i.e turning up against the big sides); is establishing himself as a regular for one of the best national sides in the world; yet he isn't considered one of the world's top youth talents, but Walcott, Nani, Anderson, etc are? Laughable really.

Calidad wrote:

Tweedle wrote:Woah! Tevez won South American Player of the Year three seasons running!

Sure he hasn't been that impressive this season but he's had to adapt. Not many players can immediately adjust to a new style of play. Judge him after next season me thinks.

Tevez is talented. But he hasn't performed to a WC level in England or for his national side. Matias Fernandez also won SAPOTY (probably the first outwith Brasil/Argentina for a while), he too has struggled. Can't really call him world class, though he's obviously supremely talented.

Aguero has proven himself at youth level, in the UEFA Cup (5 goals in 4 games) and in the Primera scoring against (Sevilla, Barca, Madrid, Villarreal, Valencia, i.e turning up against the big sides); is establishing himself as a regular for one of the best national sides in the world; yet he isn't considered one of the world's top youth talents, but Walcott, Nani, Anderson, etc are? Laughable really.

This is an otto thread though..he left out Wheater ffs.

borocooper wrote:

Calidad wrote:

Tweedle wrote:Woah! Tevez won South American Player of the Year three seasons running!

Sure he hasn't been that impressive this season but he's had to adapt. Not many players can immediately adjust to a new style of play. Judge him after next season me thinks.

Tevez is talented. But he hasn't performed to a WC level in England or for his national side. Matias Fernandez also won SAPOTY (probably the first outwith Brasil/Argentina for a while), he too has struggled. Can't really call him world class, though he's obviously supremely talented.

Aguero has proven himself at youth level, in the UEFA Cup (5 goals in 4 games) and in the Primera scoring against (Sevilla, Barca, Madrid, Villarreal, Valencia, i.e turning up against the big sides); is establishing himself as a regular for one of the best national sides in the world; yet he isn't considered one of the world's top youth talents, but Walcott, Nani, Anderson, etc are? Laughable really.

This is an otto thread though..he left out Wheater ffs.

Johnson>Wheater>Podolski

Calidad wrote:

borocooper wrote:

Calidad wrote:

Tweedle wrote:Woah! Tevez won South American Player of the Year three seasons running!

Sure he hasn't been that impressive this season but he's had to adapt. Not many players can immediately adjust to a new style of play. Judge him after next season me thinks.

Tevez is talented. But he hasn't performed to a WC level in England or for his national side. Matias Fernandez also won SAPOTY (probably the first outwith Brasil/Argentina for a while), he too has struggled. Can't really call him world class, though he's obviously supremely talented.

Aguero has proven himself at youth level, in the UEFA Cup (5 goals in 4 games) and in the Primera scoring against (Sevilla, Barca, Madrid, Villarreal, Valencia, i.e turning up against the big sides); is establishing himself as a regular for one of the best national sides in the world; yet he isn't considered one of the world's top youth talents, but Walcott, Nani, Anderson, etc are? Laughable really.

This is an otto thread though..he left out Wheater ffs.

Johnson>Wheater>Podolski

The-Frank-Tavern wrote:

Toni Kroos wrote:dammit i hate this argentina hype, only because he is argie he is the best

like tevez and mascherano, both were named from most guys here to be world class, only because they played so well in the $h!t south american leagues

Have you actually seen Aguero play this season Deisler? He has been absolutely superb for Atletico.

Deisler is far too busy gazing longingly at the lifesize Podolski poster over his bed to do much watching

Its more of a pop up book than a poster twerp.

Tweedle wrote:Its more of a pop up book than a poster twerp.

You've been round his house? Why doesnt that suprise me Beth

Calidad wrote:

borocooper wrote:

Calidad wrote:

Tweedle wrote:Woah! Tevez won South American Player of the Year three seasons running!

Sure he hasn't been that impressive this season but he's had to adapt. Not many players can immediately adjust to a new style of play. Judge him after next season me thinks.

Tevez is talented. But he hasn't performed to a WC level in England or for his national side. Matias Fernandez also won SAPOTY (probably the first outwith Brasil/Argentina for a while), he too has struggled. Can't really call him world class, though he's obviously supremely talented.

Aguero has proven himself at youth level, in the UEFA Cup (5 goals in 4 games) and in the Primera scoring against (Sevilla, Barca, Madrid, Villarreal, Valencia, i.e turning up against the big sides); is establishing himself as a regular for one of the best national sides in the world; yet he isn't considered one of the world's top youth talents, but Walcott, Nani, Anderson, etc are? Laughable really.

This is an otto thread though..he left out Wheater ffs.

Johnson>Wheater>Podolski

Michael Johnson or Adam "Jinky" Johnson?

Obviously Jinky. After his MOTM performance for the U21s the other night.

Argentines are over hyped just like the Brazilians; the only difference is that we are much more successful in International competitions so the hype is kind of forgiven.

About the Argies, I think Mascherano can be WC, I always liked his football, I think he has a great vision and the pass is not bad, if he was a little bit taller and stronger he could be even more effective.

Tevez is not that great technically speaking, I think Rooney is better than him, but he has grit and fight spirit, but that not always is enough, I know that he wanted to rape Brasil in that Copa America final, I know that he hates us with passion, yet he was completely shoot down and disappeared during the game, the grit can only take you so far.

And Arguero is definitely a talent who will only get better, but best in the world right now? Spare me, Atletico is 4º for God sakes, in a very bad year for Spanish competion, they are 12 points behind that Real Madrid.

Calidad wrote:

Tweedle wrote:Woah! Tevez won South American Player of the Year three seasons running!

Sure he hasn't been that impressive this season but he's had to adapt. Not many players can immediately adjust to a new style of play. Judge him after next season me thinks.

Tevez is talented. But he hasn't performed to a WC level in England or for his national side. Matias Fernandez also won SAPOTY (probably the first outwith Brasil/Argentina for a while), he too has struggled. Can't really call him world class, though he's obviously supremely talented.

Aguero has proven himself at youth level, in the UEFA Cup (5 goals in 4 games) and in the Primera scoring against (Sevilla, Barca, Madrid, Villarreal, Valencia, i.e turning up against the big sides); is establishing himself as a regular for one of the best national sides in the world; yet he isn't considered one of the world's top youth talents, but Walcott, Nani, Anderson, etc are? Laughable really.

5 goals in 4 games in the uefa cup, bloody hell you're starting to sound like pierre and chevanton. Will have to check those stats as you probably exaggerated those as well.

He scored against a few big sides so what? he only has 11 or 12 in the league right?

Nani's scored about 5 goals and 12 assists this season and against pool and arsenal and tottenham and he's not even a regular and he's a midfielder.

You have a tendency to completly make things up to suit what you're saying. So i doubt an 'argentine mate' actually gave you info. And more you saw Aguero score as Tevez wasnt with the squad decided in your head that this is the probable reaction.

You must be trying to wind me up with the nani and anderson stuff as you surely cant compare him to them superior talents. Maybe he's near Tevez somewhere but not quite rated as high for Agentinia yet.

5 goals (2 in a 9-0 agg win over some side in the first round) in 6 games. 1 of which they lost against Bolton and he got sent off

Can we stick to facts next time please Callidad

According to BBC sport

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Goals
   
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Total (Club)    35    (12)    4    4    0
League    23    (9)    3    2    0
FA Cup    2    (0)    1    0    0
League Cup    1    (0)    0    0    0
European/Others    9    (3)    0    2    0


4 goals this year...