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Pierre Littbarski- Number of posts : 12424
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DS wrote:I said they scored 3 goals to make you remember that game, by the way, Chelsea came back and probably scored 2 goals after Jol subs Berbatov.
How many goals have Drogba scored against Man Utd by the way, specially a header, so does that mean.
Carry on though, Terry never being dominated aerially, carry on, enjoy yourself.
I'm sorry but were you using as an example a game where spurs lost a game to chelsea to show how terry got dominated?
And are you now asking about goals scored by drogba against manu even though previously you were saying that it's not only scoring that counts.
I am sure that there are games where every defender has made mistakes, e.g. rio deals with pace without too many problems, but I am sure someone has beaten him occasionally for pace and scored a goal. In general I would say that rio does not get dominated for pace and terry does not get dominated aerially. Vidic as well is dominant in the air, but not quite as dominant as terry, therefore not quite as good.
All 3 are c**ts
DS- Number of posts : 12952
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Spurs didnt lose the game, it was 3-3, Tottenham were dominating the game until Jol decided to rest Berbatov.
You wanted headed goals did not you, so the best header dominator of the game according to you Drogba has none against us.
True, every player has bad games, Vidic for me is aerially(and overall) a better player then Terry, he does not really get dominated by an opposition striker, which sometimes Terry do, like recently Carlton Cole did.
You wanted headed goals did not you, so the best header dominator of the game according to you Drogba has none against us.
True, every player has bad games, Vidic for me is aerially(and overall) a better player then Terry, he does not really get dominated by an opposition striker, which sometimes Terry do, like recently Carlton Cole did.
Parks lives- Number of posts : 34521
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110% wrote:DS wrote:I said they scored 3 goals to make you remember that game, by the way, Chelsea came back and probably scored 2 goals after Jol subs Berbatov.
How many goals have Drogba scored against Man Utd by the way, specially a header, so does that mean.
Carry on though, Terry never being dominated aerially, carry on, enjoy yourself.
I'm sorry but were you using as an example a game where spurs lost a game to chelsea to show how terry got dominated?
Not sure if you realise this but it is possible for a team to win 4-3 and a defender for that team to play poorly. Not that it matters because that game was a draw anyway.
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Parks lives wrote:110% wrote:DS wrote:I said they scored 3 goals to make you remember that game, by the way, Chelsea came back and probably scored 2 goals after Jol subs Berbatov.
How many goals have Drogba scored against Man Utd by the way, specially a header, so does that mean.
Carry on though, Terry never being dominated aerially, carry on, enjoy yourself.
I'm sorry but were you using as an example a game where spurs lost a game to chelsea to show how terry got dominated?
Not sure if you realise this but it is possible for a team to win 4-3 and a defender for that team to play poorly. Not that it matters because that game was a draw anyway.
I got it now, you've been using as an example a game where John terry didn't play as an example of a game when terry and cheslea were aerially dominated?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/fa_cup/6415115.stm
Brilliant
DS- Number of posts : 12952
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I thought he did, my mistake.
DS- Number of posts : 12952
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Please check if he did play against WH, because it didnt looked liked he did.
Parks lives- Number of posts : 34521
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110% wrote:Parks lives wrote:110% wrote:DS wrote:I said they scored 3 goals to make you remember that game, by the way, Chelsea came back and probably scored 2 goals after Jol subs Berbatov.
How many goals have Drogba scored against Man Utd by the way, specially a header, so does that mean.
Carry on though, Terry never being dominated aerially, carry on, enjoy yourself.
I'm sorry but were you using as an example a game where spurs lost a game to chelsea to show how terry got dominated?
Not sure if you realise this but it is possible for a team to win 4-3 and a defender for that team to play poorly. Not that it matters because that game was a draw anyway.
I got it now, you've been using as an example a game where John terry didn't play as an example of a game when terry and cheslea were aerially dominated?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/fa_cup/6415115.stm
Brilliant
I haven't used anything, I was commentating on your remarks that a player in a game where his team won even though their team conceded 3 goals is then absolved of all blame.
I think the game TS originally brought up was the 4-4 game last season.
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DS wrote:Please check if he did play against WH, because it didnt looked liked he did.
I am totally confused about what games you are talking about.
If this is the game I didn't watch it:
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/report?id=242992&cc=5739&league=ENG.1
chelsea had 31 shots to west ham's 6 and 59% possession, so although it doesn't tell me whole lot it does tell me that chelsea dominated and west ham didn't produce a lot. So where is the carlton cole dominates john terry in the air bit?
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Reductio ad hypulum - the principle of discussion that states that the longer a debate continues, the more likely it is that it will turn into a contest about differing players that certain people find to be overhyped
See also: Reductio ad absurdum, reductio ad hitlerum
See also: Reductio ad absurdum, reductio ad hitlerum
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Parks lives wrote:110% wrote:Parks lives wrote:110% wrote:DS wrote:I said they scored 3 goals to make you remember that game, by the way, Chelsea came back and probably scored 2 goals after Jol subs Berbatov.
How many goals have Drogba scored against Man Utd by the way, specially a header, so does that mean.
Carry on though, Terry never being dominated aerially, carry on, enjoy yourself.
I'm sorry but were you using as an example a game where spurs lost a game to chelsea to show how terry got dominated?
Not sure if you realise this but it is possible for a team to win 4-3 and a defender for that team to play poorly. Not that it matters because that game was a draw anyway.
I got it now, you've been using as an example a game where John terry didn't play as an example of a game when terry and cheslea were aerially dominated?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/fa_cup/6415115.stm
Brilliant
I haven't used anything, I was commentating on your remarks that a player in a game where his team won even though their team conceded 3 goals is then absolved of all blame.
I think the game TS originally brought up was the 4-4 game last season.
What remarks???????????????
DS was talking about the 3-3 for quite a few posts, and of course you jumped is as usual as it was about vidic/manu to give him your support, so you both pwned yourselves. DS for not realised that the big example he was using didn't have terry even playing, and you for being such a biased manu fan that you didn't even care what the point was you had to jump in say something about how bad terry is.
Parks lives- Number of posts : 34521
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The remarks above you ffs. 
It's not that hard. It's nothing against Terry, its against your poor reasoning as usual.
TERRY WIN GAME....TERRY MUST OF PLAYED WELL.
It's not that hard. It's nothing against Terry, its against your poor reasoning as usual.
TERRY WIN GAME....TERRY MUST OF PLAYED WELL.
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Terry must Jan Vennegoor of Hesselink played well?
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Pierre Littbarski wrote:
DS- Number of posts : 12952
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So John Terry helped in Chelsea possession or attack, would that not to do with the teams, anyway if you watched the game Terry won nothing that day, on the ground and in the air, West Ham could have win if CC could finish, Chelsea on the other hand didnt had any other clear cut opportunity then the one they scored on.110% wrote:DS wrote:Please check if he did play against WH, because it didnt looked liked he did.
I am totally confused about what games you are talking about.
If this is the game I didn't watch it:
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/report?id=242992&cc=5739&league=ENG.1
chelsea had 31 shots to west ham's 6 and 59% possession, so although it doesn't tell me whole lot it does tell me that chelsea dominated and west ham didn't produce a lot. So where is the carlton cole dominates john terry in the air bit?
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Parks lives wrote:The remarks above you ffs.
It's not that hard. It's nothing against Terry, its against your poor reasoning as usual.
TERRY WIN GAME....TERRY MUST OF PLAYED WELL.
ffs
my reasoning was spot on and not specific about terry, if you can actually read the post above the one where you reply were regarding the point that scoring a goal doesn't mean you were aerially dominant as a player can be dominated from the majority of the game and score a goal. So people saying a striker scored a header does not necessarily equate to him dominating the defender aerially, whoever that defender is. It was not terry specific. Then you stuck in a random point about a player not being absolved of blame having conceded 3 goals so that was specific about terry, and you epically failed as terry wasn't playing in the game we were talking about, so you try to change it to another game,
Problem is that you cannot understand simple points.
Your reasoning for every post seems to be:
SOMEONE SAID MANU PLAYER IS NOT THE BESTEST IN WORLD MUST DEFENDEN MANU AT ALL COSTS EVEN IF I LOOK LIKE A COMPLETE TOOL AND TALK A LOT OF SHIT.
Parks lives- Number of posts : 34521
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Nice having a reasoned discussion with you. 
DS- Number of posts : 12952
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So cut it short, Vidic is a better player then Terry, I first thought he was limited too, but his performance this season has convinced me otherwise, he has been a revelation.
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DS wrote:So John Terry helped in Chelsea possession or attack, would that not to do with the teams, anyway if you watched the game Terry won nothing that day, on the ground and in the air, West Ham could have win if CC could finish, Chelsea on the other hand didnt had any other clear cut opportunity then the one they scored on.110% wrote:DS wrote:Please check if he did play against WH, because it didnt looked liked he did.
I am totally confused about what games you are talking about.
If this is the game I didn't watch it:
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/report?id=242992&cc=5739&league=ENG.1
chelsea had 31 shots to west ham's 6 and 59% possession, so although it doesn't tell me whole lot it does tell me that chelsea dominated and west ham didn't produce a lot. So where is the carlton cole dominates john terry in the air bit?
so are you saying a player who is on the pitch doesn't help with posession? and are you saying a defender does not go up for free-kicks and corners and therefore attack?
I don't remember the game but find it hadr to believe that with 31 shots and 8 on target they didn't have a clear opportunity apaprt from the one they scored. Clearly the link I provided above does not indicate any kind of dominance by west ham on the basis of clear opportunities created.
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They didnt as West Ham took the lead in the first half, the game was on Monday night and Chelsea's chance for going top, they looked flat.
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Parks lives wrote:Nice having a reasoned discussion with you.
thanks for the usual great one-liners that make no sense.
i would suggest if you want a discussion you should first learn somehting about football, then form some valid ideas that you have a clue about, after you should learn enough english to be able to express those ideas, well you "should of" by now
and finally stop being such a drama queen
you backed a wrong argument and got owned along with DS, it happens, get over it. Remember that time I made a mistake with Rio being on the pitch when Sweden scored, I admitted when I read the report and he was subbed on 52 mins that I was wrong.
It's about time that after 20 billion posts you admitted that you were wrong.
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DS wrote:They didnt as West Ham took the lead in the first half, the game was on Monday night and Chelsea's chance for going top, they looked flat.
so you concede to the terry contributing to possession and attacking then?
here's what the report I gave you said about the 2nd half, there is the bit about carlton cole at the end but there's about 6 chances for chelsea and none for west ham, and this was supposed to show me how terry was dominated, but where are the flick-ons by carlton cole?, or headers going narrowly wide and so on?:
Scolari, clearly frustrated with Chelsea's lack of a cutting edge, replaced Ballack with Didier Drogba at the interval.
Drogba hardly had time to get into the game before top scorer Anelka supplied the equaliser in the 50th minute.
For once Chelsea's neat approach play paid off with Mikel and Drogba combining before Lampard chipped the ball neatly into the path of Anelka, who coolly slotted the ball underneath the advancing Green for his 16th goal of the season.
Chelsea were now on top and when Matthew Upson failed to clear a cross, Lampard sent the rebound into Green's midriff from the edge of the penalty area.
West Ham, for the first time in the game, had little option but to defend ever deeper.
The visitors were happy to soak up the pressure on the edge of their own penalty area but that only invited Chelsea to try their luck from distance.
In the 64th minute Lampard let fly from 25 yards and his dipping shot had to be held at the second attempt by Green.
Three minutes later Green pulled off a magnificent save to deny Drogba after he had volleyed Lampard's corner towards the near post.
Salomon Kalou replaced the lacklustre Joe Cole in the 73rd minute and his first contribution was to fire a 20-yard shot straight at Green.
West Ham escaped in the 78th minute when Green punched a Lampard corner towards his own goal but it was headed off the line by Parker.
However, Green was the hero seconds later when he flung himself across goal to keep out a header from Alex.
Referee Riley then failed to award Chelsea a penalty when Lampard was tripped by Lucas Neill but it needed a superb save from Petr Cech at the other end to deny Carlton Cole an injury-time winner.
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Why do you argue about stuff you didn't see? you continually argue against people who watched something when you didn't. Are you bored or you just like to be an annoying dick?
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I dont know where that come from, I dont actually remember any clear cut chance for Chelsea. I think Deano can help us, I remember my comment in the match thread, CC owned Chelsea defence there.
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I already though have said what I believe, Vidic is a better player/defender then Terry and that in a more attacking side then Chelsea.
And I have rarely seen him being dominated, I have seen Terry having horrific games.
He's been our player of the season no doubt about it.
And I have rarely seen him being dominated, I have seen Terry having horrific games.
He's been our player of the season no doubt about it.
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On a similar note the current fair play league.
Uefa
The Fair Play assessments are made by the official UEFA delegates on criteria such as positive play, respect of the opponent, respect of the referee, behaviour of the crowd and of the team officials, as well as cautions and dismissals.
I blame Terry.
Uefa
The Fair Play assessments are made by the official UEFA delegates on criteria such as positive play, respect of the opponent, respect of the referee, behaviour of the crowd and of the team officials, as well as cautions and dismissals.
I blame Terry.
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You are entitled to your opinion as I am to mine, that Terry is a better player than Vidic, although for sure Vidic has been better this year.
I am sure that there are has been a carragher vs terry discussion as well.
I thought that's the point of a football board to discuss stuff like this. Unless you are spanky or lrd, in which it becomes about whining and just having a go at the person making the points rather than adressing the points made.
I am sure that there are has been a carragher vs terry discussion as well.
I thought that's the point of a football board to discuss stuff like this. Unless you are spanky or lrd, in which it becomes about whining and just having a go at the person making the points rather than adressing the points made.
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And another thing, think about the top players: cronaldo, messi, gerrard, rio, terry, lampard, eto'o, ibra, kaka, dinho, totti, henry and on and on and aon. There is a number of people that hate each of these players.
No-one hates Vidic, we just don't think he is as good as Terry.
No-one hates Vidic, we just don't think he is as good as Terry
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