Chelsea seal Pato deal

I think Pato is a good signing in the medium to long term.

By then Chelsea may well have bought in a manager that likes his team to play football rather than hoof it tactics and long-shots

i can't quite see a 17 year old brazilian forward doing well, playing for chelsea in the premiership. He doesn't appear to be 6 foot 5 and build like a wall and id wager a few bucks that heading and tackling arn't his strong points.
after spending 90 mins in the freezing rain getting kicked to bits by bolton and having frank lampard battering 50 yard balls straight at his face he will never want to play football ever again.
Still he might be good at diving.

ih8gerrard wrote:i can't quite see a 17 year old brazilian forward doing well, playing for chelsea in the premiership. He doesn't appear to be 6 foot 5 and build like a wall and id wager a few bucks that heading and tackling arn't his strong points.
after spending 90 mins in the freezing rain getting kicked to bits by bolton and having frank lampard battering 50 yard balls straight at his face he will never want to play football ever again.
Still he might be good at diving.

Exactly. There's so much more that's wrong with this move than just Jose Mourinho being Chelsea manager.

kas wrote:

ih8gerrard wrote:i can't quite see a 17 year old brazilian forward doing well, playing for chelsea in the premiership. He doesn't appear to be 6 foot 5 and build like a wall and id wager a few bucks that heading and tackling arn't his strong points.
after spending 90 mins in the freezing rain getting kicked to bits by bolton and having frank lampard battering 50 yard balls straight at his face he will never want to play football ever again.
Still he might be good at diving.

Exactly. There's so much more that's wrong with this move than just Jose Mourinho being Chelsea manager.

dont worry, its just talk... It is too far out to be true. arsenal, perhaps utd, yes. Chelsea no.

ih8gerrard wrote:

kas wrote:

ih8gerrard wrote:i can't quite see a 17 year old brazilian forward doing well, playing for chelsea in the premiership. He doesn't appear to be 6 foot 5 and build like a wall and id wager a few bucks that heading and tackling arn't his strong points.
after spending 90 mins in the freezing rain getting kicked to bits by bolton and having frank lampard battering 50 yard balls straight at his face he will never want to play football ever again.
Still he might be good at diving.

Exactly. There's so much more that's wrong with this move than just Jose Mourinho being Chelsea manager.

dont worry, its just talk... It is too far out to be true. arsenal, perhaps utd, yes. Chelsea no.

This deal is not done. Milan, Inter, Real and Chelsea are all after the player. Latest reports suggest that England's work permit laws puts Chelsea at a severe disadvantage. Pato's agent said that though they made an exception for Anderson, he doesn't think they will do the same for Pato: "With Anderson, he obtained his permit to Manchester United with the condition that he was a talent of outstanding quality - and I don't know if Pato would be treated like this."

Ask anyone in Brazil, Pato is really really rated as a huge talent...Tim Vickery, the BBC South American football correspondent, who knows his stuff, has said Pato has the makings of a genius.

So if Chelsea want him, the permit won't be a problem IMO. They can also always do like they did with Alex and loan him out.

kas wrote:Ask anyone in Brazil, Pato is really really rated as a huge talent...Tim Vickery, the BBC South American football correspondent, who knows his stuff, has said Pato has the makings of a genius.

So if Chelsea want him, the permit won't be a problem IMO. They can also always do like they did with Alex and loan him out.

All I'm saying is that Pato to Chelsea isn't a done deal. There could be some twists.

I agree, I was just posting about the work permit part. tbh I'm surprised Milan find the fee excessive, because though Kaka cost just 10million, it was an out of the blue signing so there wasn't competition from other big clubs. Also, the market has inflated a bit since then.

kas wrote:I agree, I was just posting about the work permit part. tbh I'm surprised Milan find the fee excessive, because though Kaka cost just 10million, it was an out of the blue signing so there wasn't competition from other big clubs. Also, the market has inflated a bit since then.

understatement of the year

Last year it was still a bit dull (I was surprised because post-World Cup is always very hectic and has a lot of players changing clubs), but this summer is the first time in 3-4 seasons that every big club in Europe has really entered the market with serious needs.

So in addition to the gradual natural recovery from the crash of 2002-2003, there is also a rise in prices because of the increased demand. The wave of new money in the Premiership is also making an impact, especially within England as we're seeing with Bent and Reo Coker, etc.

kas wrote:Last year it was still a bit dull (I was surprised because post-World Cup is always very hectic and has a lot of players changing clubs), but this summer is the first time in 3-4 seasons that every big club in Europe has really entered the market with serious needs.

So in addition to the gradual natural recovery from the crash of 2002-2003, there is also a rise in prices because of the increased demand. The wave of new money in the Premiership is also making an impact, especially within England as we're seeing with Bent and Reo Coker, etc.

i feel like im in macro economics all over again

Maybe Chelsea can lend him out to PSV like they did with Alex. The Dutch league has proven to be an excellent league for young Brazilians' development.

I must say he is well worth the money from what I've seen and heard. If we didn't have Bojan and Dos Santos I would have been screaming for his signing for Barça.

Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:

ih8gerrard wrote:

kas wrote:

ih8gerrard wrote:i can't quite see a 17 year old brazilian forward doing well, playing for chelsea in the premiership. He doesn't appear to be 6 foot 5 and build like a wall and id wager a few bucks that heading and tackling arn't his strong points.
after spending 90 mins in the freezing rain getting kicked to bits by bolton and having frank lampard battering 50 yard balls straight at his face he will never want to play football ever again.
Still he might be good at diving.

Exactly. There's so much more that's wrong with this move than just Jose Mourinho being Chelsea manager.

dont worry, its just talk... It is too far out to be true. arsenal, perhaps utd, yes. Chelsea no.

This deal is not done. Milan, Inter, Real and Chelsea are all after the player. Latest reports suggest that England's work permit laws puts Chelsea at a severe disadvantage. Pato's agent said that though they made an exception for Anderson, he doesn't think they will do the same for Pato: "With Anderson, he obtained his permit to Manchester United with the condition that he was a talent of outstanding quality - and I don't know if Pato would be treated like this."

I saw a latest interview by him on 'FIFA Futbol Mundial' (the FIFA magazine show) they profiled him , and saying the usual being linked to Milan + Chelsea , even on a latest article on him on the FIFA site , no done deal has been made.

http://www.fifa.com/u20worldcup/news/newsid=545987.html#pato+adu

seeing him in the U20 WC , i can understand why he is wanted

exceptional talent (reminds me of Kaka)

Anyone want to make any bets on there being a £30m+ transfer this summer?

There hasn't been a transfer of someone well into the 30 millions for a few years now.

The main contenders: Milan, Inter, Chelsea and Madrid

Didn't Sheva cost £30m? and Essien £27m?

Batman wrote:Didn't Sheva cost £30m? and Essien £27m?

Batman wrote:Didn't Sheva cost £30m? and Essien £27m?

£24.5m

Tweedle wrote:Anyone want to make any bets on there being a £30m+ transfer this summer?

There hasn't been a transfer of someone well into the 30 millions for a few years now.

The main contenders: Milan, Inter, Chelsea and Madrid

Hmmmmmmmm, I don't know if there will be now, It wont be Chelsea, who would Milan pay that money for?, Madrid possibly but I don't know who

I'd be surprised if Milan spend £30 million. Have they ever spent anywhere near that?

Batman wrote:Didn't Sheva cost £30m? and Essien £27m?

Yes, but they're not £30m+ transfers are they...

http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?hlid=476801&CPID=103&clid=186&lid=&title=Pato+yet+to+decide+on+future&channel=&