The Liverpool discussion thread 07/08

Crouching Tiger wrote:

Rosicky wrote:

Crouching Tiger wrote:Rafa hasn't strengthened our squad as much as I expected he would. All our players are going to have to have the seasons of their lives if we're going to stand any chance of challenging this season.

finally some sense from a pool fan.

well done.

We'll finish higher than Arsenal though

we will play the better football and score more than you again

Success >>>>> style

COTR wrote:

Crouching Tiger wrote:Rafa hasn't strengthened our squad as much as I expected he would. All our players are going to have to have the seasons of their lives if we're going to stand any chance of challenging this season.

I disagree CT

I think we will be incomparable to last year when the new team and players get acclimatised. remember we basically had no left wingers last year (gonzalez doesn't count as he was $h!t ). now we will have kewell, babel and benayoun to play there. this is an instant improvement. torres is also a huge improvement on what we had although obviously some people may try to say otherwise

just to do a stupid player comparison


torres >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>. bellamy
voronin >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fowler
benayoun >>>>>>> garcia (for the league)
babel >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gonzalez
levia >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> zenden (I don't even need to see him play to figure this out)

so the squad has been strengthed better than a lot of people think. we have so so many more options now

I guess the only proof will come when the league starts

Not too mention the addition of Mascherano in midfield.

What people also forget is that Liverpool (like the year before that) had another slow start last year. Mostly defensively. Once they clicked they were the second best team in prem - even with their poor attack.
Now attack has been bolstered, the left wing problem has been adressed and effectively fixed; and the defense doesn't have to feel another out first. Liverpool are a team of momentum; if they start on top they'll keep going on like a juggernaut, and with rafa's rotation policy will still be the freshest in feb/march/april of all teams.

Liverpool newboy Yossi Benayoun has revealed the presence of former West Ham teammate Javier Mascherano will be a big help as he tries to settle into life on Merseyside.
The pair became friends during Mascherano's five months in east London, with Benayoun acting as an interpreter for the young Argentine.

"It will help me that Javier Mascherano is here already," said the Israeli playmaker. "I spoke with Javier a lot at West Ham because I was the only person there that spoke Spanish, and I acted as a translator for both him and Carlos Tevez when they first came over.

"When he was out of the team at West Ham, I had told him that he could play at a bigger club no problems, and look how he ended the season – playing in a Champions League final."

Meanwhile, Benayoun is prepared to adapt in order to feature week in, week out at his new club.

"There is a big squad here, and when you agree to sign at a club like Liverpool you are already aware of these things," he says.

"I can play in several positions, but to tell you the truth I will play in any position as long as the manager picks me!"
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isn't that nice, Masch is here for Yossi and Kuyt is here for Babel

Harry Kewell scored another goal today in Australia's 4 nill win over Thailand!!!

The thing that impresses me most is that he looks fit and strong.

I keep saying it, if he is fit, on form and firing on all cylinders he really will be like a new signing.

Definately up there with the top 5 wingers in the premiership when fit.

Juventus defender Giorgio Chiellini could be on his way to Liverpool after stating that the Bianconeri have neglected him.

The former Italy Under-21 captain claims that he is worried about his future in Serie A and is waiting for club officials to clarify their plans.

“No one has called me or tried to contact me,” he revealed. “They have focused on renewing the contracts of the important players and this is logical.

“However, they haven’t considered the players who gave their all to bring the team back to the First Division. I believe I might risk playing only 30 per cent of next year’s matches and I cannot agree to this.

“I have plenty of opportunities, but I only hope someone will call me to explain what the plan is. Unfortunately no one has done this so far.”

Reports in Italy suggest that Liverpool have offered £5m for the defender, although it is understood that the Old Lady value him at £7m.

The Premiership club are focusing on Chiellini after the deal to bring Manchester United left-back Gabriel Heinze – a former Juventus target – to Anfield stalled.

http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/jul16j.html

Pay the 7 million rafa!!!

As written in the Werder thread already, I expect you guys to beat us tomorrow. And as if we didn't have enough injuries and missing key players already, now our goal keeper is injured also, and most probably won't play. I expect a good spanking now.

But whatever, it's a test match, and it will be interesting to see the new players in action, Torres and Carlos Alberto in particular.

blutgraetsche wrote:As written in the Werder thread already, I expect you guys to beat us tomorrow. And as if we didn't have enough injuries and missing key players already, now our goal keeper is injured also, and most probably won't play. I expect a good spanking now.

But whatever, it's a test match, and it will be interesting to see the new players in action, Torres and Carlos Alberto in particular.

Still as good as he was 35 years ago?

Heh, same name, hopefully same quality also. Will be his first match for us, just like Torres for you.

Carlos Alberto who played for Porto in 2004, when they won the CL.

The match is on Setanta tomorrow...But if you don't have it, like me, watch it live here:

http://85.92.128.155/~myp2p/Matches/Match5.htm

Should be interesting.

blutgraetsche wrote:Heh, same name, hopefully same quality also. Will be his first match for us, just like Torres for you.

Carlos Alberto who played for Porto in 2004, when they won the CL.

I know the guy, was just cracking a poor joke

I think the match will be light hearted, and probably finish 1 or 2 nil to Liverpool, but at the same time could quite easily finish either way, after all it is a pre-season freindly.

Crouching Tiger wrote:The match is on Setanta tomorrow...But if you don't have it, like me, watch it live here:

http://85.92.128.155/~myp2p/Matches/Match5.htm

Should be interesting.

Yes yes! Setanta will show the match at 2:15pm my time. Let's see the new Reds.

Puro wrote:

Crouching Tiger wrote:The match is on Setanta tomorrow...But if you don't have it, like me, watch it live here:

http://85.92.128.155/~myp2p/Matches/Match5.htm

Should be interesting.

Yes yes! Setanta will show the match at 2:15pm my time. Let's see the new Reds.

Oh it's on baby

are you cursing chelsea this year puro with your predicitions ???

Is it on Eurosport? Does Sky have Setanta channels?

COTR wrote:
Oh it's on baby

are you cursing chelsea this year puro with your predicitions ???

My gosh! talk about being the victim of success! So many correct predictions and ONE incorrect with Liverpool becomes a curse all of a sudden.

I'm still consulting with the Kipus and also getting the wisdom from Wirakocha and Kukulkan.

Who are you cursing this year?

Puro wrote:

COTR wrote:
Oh it's on baby

are you cursing chelsea this year puro with your predicitions ???

My gosh! talk about being the victim of success! So many correct predictions and ONE incorrect with Liverpool becomes a curse all of a sudden.

I'm still consulting with the Kipus and also getting the wisdom from Wirakocha and Kukulkan.

Who are you cursing this year?

I am placing all my voodoo powers on a club down the road known as manchester united puro

they are a cert to win the league this year

I see u guys have been linked with Chiellini....I think u should go for him instead of Heinze if u are looking for a player than can play both left back and CB

COTR wrote:
I am placing all my voodoo powers on a club down the road known as manchester united puro

they are a cert to win the league this year

Will you get to watch the new Reds later on today? In less than 4 hours actually. I wanna see how Rafa is setting them up on the pitch.

Agooner wrote:I see u guys have been linked with Chiellini....I think u should go for him instead of Heinze if u are looking for a player than can play both left back and CB

ya think


I know nothing about chiellini and im still praying we sign him over heinze

Juve will probably not want to be selling thier best kids though but on the positive side if we are linked with someone else it means we are moving on from signing heinze which can only be positive

Puro wrote:

COTR wrote:
Oh it's on baby

are you cursing chelsea this year puro with your predicitions ???

My gosh! talk about being the victim of success! So many correct predictions and ONE incorrect with Liverpool becomes a curse all of a sudden.

I'm still consulting with the Kipus and also getting the wisdom from Wirakocha and Kukulkan.

Who are you cursing this year?

What success? You've never even taken part in the prediction competition! Come in the top 3 or so of that then brag about being good at predictions.

His record regarding the Premiership is terrible.

Torres has a slight ankle injury, and isn't expected to start tonight...But he may come on as a sub in the second half. Babel and Benayoun may also feature at some point.

Should be a good game!

Parks lives wrote:

His record regarding the Premiership is terrible.

So young and already the memory's failing.

Two seasons ago I correctly predicted: Chelsea, ManUtd, Liverpool, Arsenal, Tottenham.

Last season I missed: Liverpool, Chelsea, ManUtd, Arsenal, Tottenham.

Who do you think is gonna win this season Parky?

Puro wrote:

COTR wrote:
I am placing all my voodoo powers on a club down the road known as manchester united puro

they are a cert to win the league this year

Will you get to watch the new Reds later on today? In less than 4 hours actually. I wanna see how Rafa is setting them up on the pitch.

we'll be lucky if we see fernando later. he may be held back

benayoun, babel and voronin will be the people im most interested in

the first teamers will all be mixed in with the kiddies though

ill be watching nonetheless

Túpac Amaru wrote:

Two seasons ago I correctly predicted: Chelsea, ManUtd, Liverpool, Arsenal, Tottenham.

Don't remember that at all.

Túpac Amaru wrote:
Who do you think is gonna win this season Parky?

Man United or Chelsea, again.

Chiellini can go forward too. One of the most impressive kids at the U21 EC.

Hes a good LB but dont remember him playing CB ever.

http://livefooty.doctor-serv.com/tue17.7/Bremen_Liverpool.html

not sure if it works yet

first half

The team in full is: Carson, Finnan, Hyypia, Paletta, Riise, El Zhar, Hobbs Pennant, Gerrard, Voronin, Crouch.

second I presume from

Subs: PR, NM, SD, JC, DA, AA, YB, MS, XA, DK, FT, RB.

second half will be better