MSI take Hammers to High Court

Media Sports Investments, the company who claim to own Carlos Tevez's economic rights, have issued a High Court writ against West Ham United.

MSI are trying to broker Tevez's proposed move to Manchester United, but the Premier League have insisted that West Ham must receive any transfer fee.

The Hammers insist they still own Tevez's registration and that has led to the latest action.

The whole Tevez saga was taken to Fifa last week and they ruled on Tuesday that the case would be best heard by the Court of Arbitration for Sport.

MSI are desperate for the case to be resolved as soon as possible and they feel High Court action is the best avenue for them to take.

Just let him go FFS...not even bothered.

Like I read somewhere the other day, this just seems to be an issue of no one wanting to make the final decision and this is evident from FIFA who have now said it should go to CAS.

Someone be it West Ham, The FA, FIFA, Premier League or MSI need to just explain Tevez's contract completely.

Can't a club and player agree to anul a player's contract then again I suppose West Ham would like a bit of compensation (in the size of a transfer fee for this whole affair). Anyway MSI are basically hitting the ball back to West Ham in terms of suabbling, we're bound to get the ball back in MSI's court soon.

Playmaker wrote:Like I read somewhere the other day, this just seems to be an issue of no one wanting to make the final decision and this is evident from FIFA who have now said it should go to CAS.

Someone be it West Ham, The FA, FIFA, Premier League or MSI need to just explain Tevez's contract completely.

Can't a club and player agree to anul a player's contract then again I suppose West Ham would like a bit of compensation (in the size of a transfer fee for this whole affair). Anyway MSI are basically hitting the ball back to West Ham in terms of suabbling, we're bound to get the ball back in MSI's court soon.

The fact he is a registered West Ham player for the next 3 years kind of fucks MSI up. Kia tried taking over our club. It backfired as we didn't want it ruined by a knob.

He can't leave unless we say so (because another club can't register him) We want £5.5m from Kia...not that much to ask (this pays for the fine we received). Kia wants to pay us £0. It just ain't happening.

I'm glad of one thing at least, there will be no more private ownership of players by individuals in the future in England. No other club will take the risk.

Freddie Ljungberg wrote:

Playmaker wrote:Like I read somewhere the other day, this just seems to be an issue of no one wanting to make the final decision and this is evident from FIFA who have now said it should go to CAS.

Someone be it West Ham, The FA, FIFA, Premier League or MSI need to just explain Tevez's contract completely.

Can't a club and player agree to anul a player's contract then again I suppose West Ham would like a bit of compensation (in the size of a transfer fee for this whole affair). Anyway MSI are basically hitting the ball back to West Ham in terms of suabbling, we're bound to get the ball back in MSI's court soon.

The fact he is a registered West Ham player for the next 3 years kind of fucks MSI up. Kia tried taking over our club. It backfired as we didn't want it ruined by a knob.

He can't leave unless we say so (because another club can't register him) We want £5.5m from Kia...not that much to ask (this pays for the fine we received). Kia wants to pay us £0. It just ain't happening.

Can you not see it from the other side though, how much did West Ham pay for Tevez? nothing or next to nothing right? you don't get a player like that for free

as for the 5.5 mill i mean the guy let him register as a west ham player so he could play for you again and help keep you up, he did that surely that covers the 5.5 mill no? I think if the whole sheff utd thing didn't come about then west ham would not be making this so difficult.

L.r.d wrote:

Freddie Ljungberg wrote:

Playmaker wrote:Like I read somewhere the other day, this just seems to be an issue of no one wanting to make the final decision and this is evident from FIFA who have now said it should go to CAS.

Someone be it West Ham, The FA, FIFA, Premier League or MSI need to just explain Tevez's contract completely.

Can't a club and player agree to anul a player's contract then again I suppose West Ham would like a bit of compensation (in the size of a transfer fee for this whole affair). Anyway MSI are basically hitting the ball back to West Ham in terms of suabbling, we're bound to get the ball back in MSI's court soon.

The fact he is a registered West Ham player for the next 3 years kind of fucks MSI up. Kia tried taking over our club. It backfired as we didn't want it ruined by a knob.

He can't leave unless we say so (because another club can't register him) We want £5.5m from Kia...not that much to ask (this pays for the fine we received). Kia wants to pay us £0. It just ain't happening.

Can you not see it from the other side though, how much did West Ham pay for Tevez? nothing or next to nothing right? you don't get a player like that for free

as for the 5.5 mill i mean the guy let him register as a west ham player so he could play for you again and help keep you up, he did that surely that covers the 5.5 mill no? I think if the whole sheff utd thing didn't come about then west ham would not be making this so difficult.

You support Man Utd...of course you'd say this. Magnusson or Curbishley did not bring Tevez or Mascherano to the club. Magnusson is the one who has paid Tevez's wages since November...as well as being £5.5m out of pocket, for something he had no control over.

For anyone confused as to exactly what is going on in the Tevez saga... i've tried to sum it up for you here...



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Scene1.

Attempting to make a quick buck, Joorabchian tries to sell his player Tevez to the Premier League big-hitters...


Joorabchian - Hey Chelsea, wanna buy this player? His name's Tevez and he's £25m

Chelsea - Nah man, we've just bought Shevchenko, he's ace.

Joorabchian - Hey Arsenal, wanna buy this player? His name's Tevez and he's £25m

Arsenal - Nah man, £25m's too much.

Joorabchian - Hey United, wanna buy this player? His name's Tevez and he's £25m

United - Nah man, he's unproven.


Slightly put out, Joorabchian resorts to sneakier tactics...


Joorabchian - Hey er... West Ham... wanna... er... 'loan' this player? His name's Tevez and he wont cost you a penny.

West Ham - What's the catch?

Joorabchian - Well... next season, when you sell him, i get all the money.

West Ham - Isn't that against Premier League rules?

Joorabchian - Yeah, So? I wont tell if you don't.

West Ham - Hehe... sneaky. You've got yourself a deal Mr Joorabchian.

Joorabchian - Bwahahaha, sweet.

West Ham - Bwahahahahahahah!


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Scene2.

Halfway through the season, the Premier League big chiefs catch wind of West Hams game.


Premier League - Oi West Ham! He's not supposed to be playing for you! it's against the rules, you cheeky buggers!

West Ham - Er... what? who?

Premier League - That Tevez bloke! He doesn't belong to you.

West Ham - Oh er... him?... er... doesn't he?... oh yeah... er...

Premier League - Tell you what... if you sever all ties with this Joorabchian bloke and rip up any contracts you've got with him, we'll let you off with a small fine and you can keep Tevez.

West Ham - What? so basically what you're saying is... that if we rip up the contract that proves Tevez belongs to Joorabchian, then we can keep him?

Premier League - Pretty much, yeah.

West Ham - So er... what you're saying is... we blatantly flaunted the rules of the league, so we have to pay a £6m fine, but in doing so; we get a £25m player for f@ck all?

Premier League - Yeah, that sound fair?

West Ham - Well er... yeah.

Premier League - Cool.

West Ham - Bwahahahahahahahaha!


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Scene3.

Tevez scores loads of goals and saves West Ham from relegation causing Sheffield United to go down instead. Sheffield United, knowing that Tevez should not have been playing for the Hammers, cry like a smacked baby...


Sheffield United - WTF? This is Bollocks! we... he... they....

Premier League - Shut the f@ck up!


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Scene4.

After seeing Tevez adapt well to Premier League football, the champions Manchester United decide to buy him. So, naturally, they go to the bloke who owns him - a certain Mr Joorabchian - and offer £25m...


United - Hey Joorabchian, Tevez did well at West Ham, we'll buy him now.

Joorabchian - No probs, you got £25m?

United - Yeah sure, lets get this deal down.

Joorabchian - ok, cool.


But the Premier League have different ideas...


Premier League - Erm... actually guys... i'm afraid you can't make that deal...

United - eh? why?

Joorabchian - yeah, why?

Premier League - Er... we kinda 'gave' Tevez to West Ham.

Joorabchian - ...

Premier League - Yeah, er... we kinda said West Ham could keep Tevez. So United will have to pay them the £25m.

West Ham - Yeah, he's ours now, we ripped up the contract!

Joorabchian - But...

Premier League - Hey, shut up Joorabchian!

West Ham - Yeah shut it!

United - Hang on... what's going on here?

Premier League - It's not our problem, ask FIFA or something.

Joorabchian - But my money?...

Premier League - We told you to shut the f@ck up!


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Scene5.

FIFA gets involved...


FIFA - Eh? oh $h!t! ask somebody else.


FIFA relinquishes all involvement.


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TO BE CONTINUED


By ciderman9000000

The point is...Brown done the deal...Pardew signed the players. Neither are at the club.

Batman wrote:For anyone confused as to exactly what is going on in the Tevez saga... i've tried to sum it up for you here...



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Scene1.

Attempting to make a quick buck, Joorabchian tries to sell his player Tevez to the Premier League big-hitters...


Joorabchian - Hey Chelsea, wanna buy this player? His name's Tevez and he's £25m

Chelsea - Nah man, we've just bought Shevchenko, he's ace.

Joorabchian - Hey Arsenal, wanna buy this player? His name's Tevez and he's £25m

Arsenal - Nah man, £25m's too much.

Joorabchian - Hey United, wanna buy this player? His name's Tevez and he's £25m

United - Nah man, he's unproven.


Slightly put out, Joorabchian resorts to sneakier tactics...


Joorabchian - Hey er... West Ham... wanna... er... 'loan' this player? His name's Tevez and he wont cost you a penny.

West Ham - What's the catch?

Joorabchian - Well... next season, when you sell him, i get all the money.

West Ham - Isn't that against Premier League rules?

Joorabchian - Yeah, So? I wont tell if you don't.

West Ham - Hehe... sneaky. You've got yourself a deal Mr Joorabchian.

Joorabchian - Bwahahaha, sweet.

West Ham - Bwahahahahahahah!


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Scene2.

Halfway through the season, the Premier League big chiefs catch wind of West Hams game.


Premier League - Oi West Ham! He's not supposed to be playing for you! it's against the rules, you cheeky buggers!

West Ham - Er... what? who?

Premier League - That Tevez bloke! He doesn't belong to you.

West Ham - Oh er... him?... er... doesn't he?... oh yeah... er...

Premier League - Tell you what... if you sever all ties with this Joorabchian bloke and rip up any contracts you've got with him, we'll let you off with a small fine and you can keep Tevez.

West Ham - What? so basically what you're saying is... that if we rip up the contract that proves Tevez belongs to Joorabchian, then we can keep him?

Premier League - Pretty much, yeah.

West Ham - So er... what you're saying is... we blatantly flaunted the rules of the league, so we have to pay a £6m fine, but in doing so; we get a £25m player for f@ck all?

Premier League - Yeah, that sound fair?

West Ham - Well er... yeah.

Premier League - Cool.

West Ham - Bwahahahahahahahaha!


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Scene3.

Tevez scores loads of goals and saves West Ham from relegation causing Sheffield United to go down instead. Sheffield United, knowing that Tevez should not have been playing for the Hammers, cry like a smacked baby...


Sheffield United - WTF? This is Bollocks! we... he... they....

Premier League - Shut the f@ck up!


--------------------------------


Scene4.

After seeing Tevez adapt well to Premier League football, the champions Manchester United decide to buy him. So, naturally, they go to the bloke who owns him - a certain Mr Joorabchian - and offer £25m...


United - Hey Joorabchian, Tevez did well at West Ham, we'll buy him now.

Joorabchian - No probs, you got £25m?

United - Yeah sure, lets get this deal down.

Joorabchian - ok, cool.


But the Premier League have different ideas...


Premier League - Erm... actually guys... i'm afraid you can't make that deal...

United - eh? why?

Joorabchian - yeah, why?

Premier League - Er... we kinda 'gave' Tevez to West Ham.

Joorabchian - ...

Premier League - Yeah, er... we kinda said West Ham could keep Tevez. So United will have to pay them the £25m.

West Ham - Yeah, he's ours now, we ripped up the contract!

Joorabchian - But...

Premier League - Hey, shut up Joorabchian!

West Ham - Yeah shut it!

United - Hang on... what's going on here?

Premier League - It's not our problem, ask FIFA or something.

Joorabchian - But my money?...

Premier League - We told you to shut the f@ck up!


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Scene5.

FIFA gets involved...


FIFA - Eh? oh $h!t! ask somebody else.


FIFA relinquishes all involvement.


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TO BE CONTINUED


By ciderman9000000

That sounds about right

Now that it's going to court, we will finally find out who really owns Tevez and whether West Ham should be punished properly for breaking the rules.

Murray wrote:Now that it's going to court, we will finally find out who really owns Tevez and whether West Ham should be punished properly for breaking the rules.

Well done for being completely ignorant. WE ONLY BROKE THE RULES IF HIS REGISTRATION WAS WRONG, WHICH ISN'T. LISTEN TO THE PREMIER LEAGUE

Batman wrote:For anyone confused as to exactly what is going on in the Tevez saga... i've tried to sum it up for you here...



*****************************



Scene1.

Attempting to make a quick buck, Joorabchian tries to sell his player Tevez to the Premier League big-hitters...


Joorabchian - Hey Chelsea, wanna buy this player? His name's Tevez and he's £25m

Chelsea - Nah man, we've just bought Shevchenko, he's ace.

Joorabchian - Hey Arsenal, wanna buy this player? His name's Tevez and he's £25m

Arsenal - Nah man, £25m's too much.

Joorabchian - Hey United, wanna buy this player? His name's Tevez and he's £25m

United - Nah man, he's unproven.


Slightly put out, Joorabchian resorts to sneakier tactics...


Joorabchian - Hey er... West Ham... wanna... er... 'loan' this player? His name's Tevez and he wont cost you a penny.

West Ham - What's the catch?

Joorabchian - Well... next season, when you sell him, i get all the money.

West Ham - Isn't that against Premier League rules?

Joorabchian - Yeah, So? I wont tell if you don't.

West Ham - Hehe... sneaky. You've got yourself a deal Mr Joorabchian.

Joorabchian - Bwahahaha, sweet.

West Ham - Bwahahahahahahah!


---------------------------------


Scene2.

Halfway through the season, the Premier League big chiefs catch wind of West Hams game.


Premier League - Oi West Ham! He's not supposed to be playing for you! it's against the rules, you cheeky buggers!

West Ham - Er... what? who?

Premier League - That Tevez bloke! He doesn't belong to you.

West Ham - Oh er... him?... er... doesn't he?... oh yeah... er...

Premier League - Tell you what... if you sever all ties with this Joorabchian bloke and rip up any contracts you've got with him, we'll let you off with a small fine and you can keep Tevez.

West Ham - What? so basically what you're saying is... that if we rip up the contract that proves Tevez belongs to Joorabchian, then we can keep him?

Premier League - Pretty much, yeah.

West Ham - So er... what you're saying is... we blatantly flaunted the rules of the league, so we have to pay a £6m fine, but in doing so; we get a £25m player for f@ck all?

Premier League - Yeah, that sound fair?

West Ham - Well er... yeah.

Premier League - Cool.

West Ham - Bwahahahahahahahaha!


------------------------------


Scene3.

Tevez scores loads of goals and saves West Ham from relegation causing Sheffield United to go down instead. Sheffield United, knowing that Tevez should not have been playing for the Hammers, cry like a smacked baby...


Sheffield United - WTF? This is Bollocks! we... he... they....

Premier League - Shut the f@ck up!


--------------------------------


Scene4.

After seeing Tevez adapt well to Premier League football, the champions Manchester United decide to buy him. So, naturally, they go to the bloke who owns him - a certain Mr Joorabchian - and offer £25m...


United - Hey Joorabchian, Tevez did well at West Ham, we'll buy him now.

Joorabchian - No probs, you got £25m?

United - Yeah sure, lets get this deal down.

Joorabchian - ok, cool.


But the Premier League have different ideas...


Premier League - Erm... actually guys... i'm afraid you can't make that deal...

United - eh? why?

Joorabchian - yeah, why?

Premier League - Er... we kinda 'gave' Tevez to West Ham.

Joorabchian - ...

Premier League - Yeah, er... we kinda said West Ham could keep Tevez. So United will have to pay them the £25m.

West Ham - Yeah, he's ours now, we ripped up the contract!

Joorabchian - But...

Premier League - Hey, shut up Joorabchian!

West Ham - Yeah shut it!

United - Hang on... what's going on here?

Premier League - It's not our problem, ask FIFA or something.

Joorabchian - But my money?...

Premier League - We told you to shut the f@ck up!


------------------------------------


Scene5.

FIFA gets involved...


FIFA - Eh? oh $h!t! ask somebody else.


FIFA relinquishes all involvement.


-----------------------------------



TO BE CONTINUED


By ciderman9000000

(Pure class Batman...well done that man!!!)

Although in all seriously, shouldn't the blame be put on the former West Ham management, I mean, surely they knew something was a bit dodgy and still they went ahead.

Playmaker wrote:Although in all seriously, shouldn't the blame be put on the former West Ham management, I mean, surely they knew something was a bit dodgy and still they went ahead.

not really

we have mascha at the minute and it isn't dodgy... I hope

the problem with this one is whatever way the premier league have stepped in and changed matters

How can L'pool have Masch and we cant Tevez?

Sir Harry Flashman wrote:How can L'pool have Masch and we cant Tevez?

because west ham want to keep him

they didn't want to keep mascha

For me the most contemptible part of the affair isnt the way in which West Ham got Tevez in the first place. It was underhand and very shady initially, and I dont agree at all with a player being owned by an individual who can then basically dictate that players career. But the deal basically amounted to a loan, if an original one of questionable legal standing, and it at least had the benefit that it brought an exciting, talented player to the league.

I find worse the way the Premier League and West Ham did seem to collude to rip up Tevez's contract when it became clear something was wrong. I cant understand how that came about, and it surely mustnt be legal. And since then the pair have just played ignorant, out purely to benefit themselves.

COTR wrote:

Sir Harry Flashman wrote:How can L'pool have Masch and we cant Tevez?

because west ham want to keep him

they didn't want to keep mascha

Yes its the price we pay for being the biggest club in t'world!

Sir Harry Flashman wrote:

COTR wrote:

Sir Harry Flashman wrote:How can L'pool have Masch and we cant Tevez?

because west ham want to keep him

they didn't want to keep mascha

Yes its the price we pay for being the biggest club in t'world!

I doubt this would hold up in courts nutty


wouldn't you as a fake lawyer agree

It's true we are doing nothing different from Pool and Mascherano, if we don't get Tevez then i am sure this will come up a bit more than it has done so far

L.r.d wrote:It's true we are doing nothing different from Pool and Mascherano, if we don't get Tevez then i am sure this will come up a bit more than it has done so far

apart from the pretty major fact that we had west ham's permission and you don't

COTR wrote:

Sir Harry Flashman wrote:

COTR wrote:

Sir Harry Flashman wrote:How can L'pool have Masch and we cant Tevez?

because west ham want to keep him

they didn't want to keep mascha

Yes its the price we pay for being the biggest club in t'world!

I doubt this would hold up in courts nutty


wouldn't you as a fake lawyer agree

The matter will be looked upon as a non-binding contract....WHU dont have a leg to stand on....the PL Rules are useless as the PL have failed to deal with the matter - thus in the common law courts - the matter will be dealt with fairly and simply - the Agent has a valid contract with the player and WHU - and if the terms are as i think - Bingo-Ringo! as they say!
Ofcourse in equity the matter will be even more easily resolves....he who comes to equity must come with clean hands and all that!!

It's all down to the Premier League, they have got themselves into this and are too scared to do anything now hence them saying FIFA should decide who then wimp out and say CAS should.

Doesn't all transfers have to be sent to the Premier League for approval and, be it for their greed at having the chance to bring another two big names to the Premier League, approved it.

It is their fault for this mess and either way the solution which is far off, will still raise eyebrows somewhere.

Pfft. Figures of authority ay?!

Freddie Ljungberg wrote:The point is...Brown done the deal...Pardew signed the players. Neither are at the club.

You've already been punished for that.

What is the issue now is whether Tevez is actually your player, or whether he's "On loan" from Kia J. You said he is yours now, Kia claims he's still with MSI. That's the issue right now.

It's obvious that there was a collusion between whoever calls the shots in the premier league and whoever benefits financially at West Ham. These group of people tried to pull a fast one on MSI (they aren't angels themselves).

Now, everyone knows the premier league (or whoever gave West Ham a break) and West Ham got caught in their scheming ways big time. Nevertheless, they can't go back and admit their collusion because that means Sheffield United and the rest of the teams will be all over their asses for bringing the game into disrepute.

If the Mancs have to pay MSI for Tevez, then surely West Ham are to be relegated for being shady last season and deservedly so. Sheffield United remain in the EPL. Shitty football and all, BUT they didn't get caught breaking any rules. What I want to know is who in the premier league would've gotten his nice cut from their schemed sale of Tevez to the Mancs?

FIFA knows the premier league created this huge mess so it politely told them to clean up your own shite.

Puro wrote:It's obvious that there was a collusion between whoever calls the shots in the premier league and whoever benefits financially at West Ham. These group of people tried to pull a fast one on MSI (they aren't angels themselves).

Now, everyone knows the premier league (or whoever gave West Ham a break) and West Ham got caught in their scheming ways big time. Nevertheless, they can't go back and admit their collusion because that means Sheffield United and the rest of the teams will be all over their asses for bringing the game into disrepute.

If the Mancs have to pay MSI for Tevez, then surely West Ham are to be relegated for being shady last season and deservedly so. Sheffield United remain in the EPL. Shitty football and all, BUT they didn't get caught breaking any rules. What I want to know is who in the premier league would've gotten his nice cut from their schemed sale of Tevez to the Mancs?

FIFA knows the premier league created this huge mess so it politely told them to clean up your own shite.

It is incredible it was ever allowed to happen in the first place.

You can't rip up a contract just because you didn't sign it yourself, if you buy the club you also inherit all the legal agreements the club has undertaken.

The whole situation is ridiculous and the Premiership's handling of the situation has been pathetic. If they didn't like the contract then they should have banned Tevez from playing, rather than giving West Ham a small fine and sanctioning what is essentially theft.

The actions of West Ham and the Prem would be considered highly illegal in any other field.

Think whatever you want of the collusion between the Premier League and West Ham. I have one question.

If West Ham schemed on their original agreement with Joorachbian, and usurped the financial rights for Tevez, doesn’t that hold the Hammers liable to a huge lawsuit by Joorachbian, Sheffield United or anyone affected by the Premier League/West Ham chicanery? <Ale>