Nani and Anderson are overated?

I don’t know if it’s because people in England don’t watch Superliga, but I get very irritated when they always say Nani and Anderson are not worth 30m pounds.

The Nani I know was the guy who dragged Sporting to third in the league last season (losing the title on the last day). He was tipped as the next big thing since Ronaldo. According to me he was the second best player in the Superliga last season behind Lucho. How is that overated when Carrick cost the same for doing sh!t for Spurs, or Rooney cost over 20m pounds for just scoring against Arsenal in his debut?

Anderson was the best player in the Porto team until he got injured. Infact he was tipped to be bigger than Ronaldinho in no time. But then I guess nobody watched him in England until he played for Man U.

If u ask me, Man U got them for a bargain and they should thank Quieroz for influencing the deal towards them. 30m pounds for potential Ballon D’Or winners is a slap in the face of Sporting and Porto.

30M pounds a slap in the face for Sporting and Porto?! Are you kidding? 30M pounds on relativly unproven talent Europe wise is a hell of a lot money.

We dutch have it much tougher.

Since 1888 wrote:30M pounds a slap in the face for Sporting and Porto?! Are you kidding? 30M pounds on relativly unproven talent Europe wise is a hell of a lot money.

We dutch have it much tougher.

Nani and Anderson played Champs League before this season and they did well. And what do u mean they were unproven?

rza wrote:

Since 1888 wrote:30M pounds a slap in the face for Sporting and Porto?! Are you kidding? 30M pounds on relativly unproven talent Europe wise is a hell of a lot money.

We dutch have it much tougher.

Nani and Anderson played Champs League before this season and they did well. And what do u mean they were unproven?

They played CL but weren't really outstanding in the CL, so they have yet to deliver on that stage.

Seriously stop moaning, 30M is hell of a lot money for players who are yet to have grown hair around their penis.

rza wrote: How is that overated when Carrick cost the same for doing sh!t for Spurs, or Rooney cost over 20m pounds for just scoring against Arsenal in his debut?

Woah!

Carrick was integral to Spurs finishing 5th. Maybe not worth £15m, but he's certainly proved to have been worth that since.

Rooney didn't JUST score that goal verses Arsenal. He was also one of the players of the tournament in the Euro Champs!

No and Yes.

Tweedle wrote:
Woah!

Carrick was integral to Spurs finishing 5th. Maybe not worth £15m, but he's certainly proved to have been worth that since.

Rooney didn't JUST score that goal verses Arsenal. He was also one of the players of the tournament in the Euro Champs!

Between Rooney and Nani before their Man U transfer, who had more experience in the top level?

man utd's hand was forced by newcastle in relation to rooney, he was clearly a fergie target but bought ahead of schedule.

Can't wait till the Redbloods and scousers get on... oh actually. I can, because we all know exactly what's coming

Did Man Utd pay all the money upfront ?

If Arsenal payed that much for either player, id be very disappointed as neither are that good yet

Sir Les Jurgen of Ginola™ wrote:

Did Man Utd pay all the money upfront ?

No.

Way too expensive and I'm glad United spent the money and not us.

Wouldn't have minded Nani here actually but perhaps you should shave about 7 mill off the price

they both have huge potential anderson was excellent for porto in the ECL last season when i saw him, but i still believe that man ure paid too much for them given their experience, etc. they are still both raw talents and have a long way to go to reach their peak imho.

Lrd mode -

Anderson > Fabregas

Parks lives wrote:Lrd mode -

Anderson > Fabregas

rza wrote:I don’t know if it’s because people in England don’t watch Superliga, but I get very irritated when they always say Nani and Anderson are not worth 30m pounds.

The Nani I know was the guy who dragged Sporting to third in the league last season (losing the title on the last day). He was tipped as the next big thing since Ronaldo. According to me he was the second best player in the Superliga last season behind Lucho. How is that overated when Carrick cost the same for doing sh!t for Spurs, or Rooney cost over 20m pounds for just scoring against Arsenal in his debut?

Anderson was the best player in the Porto team until he got injured. Infact he was tipped to be bigger than Ronaldinho in no time. But then I guess nobody watched him in England until he played for Man U.

If u ask me, Man U got them for a bargain and they should thank Quieroz for influencing the deal towards them. 30m pounds for potential Ballon D’Or winners is a slap in the face of Sporting and Porto.

Firstly Carrick was pretty good for Spurs, I think everyone agreed that he was way overpriced. But united had just got £16m from Chelsea for a player they paid £4m for, who never played a game for them. United needed a midfielder to replace Mikel and Spurs didnt want to sell, so United ended up paying over the odds for him.

Rooney had done more than score against Aresnal. He was the star player of Euro 2004, he was only 18 years old and the best English talent since Gazza. In my view £23m was a bargain for a future United and England captain.

We probably paid a bit more than we should, but then united always pay more than they should. However when you consider that Milan paid £13m for a player who had just played a handful of first team games and had no experience of European football, then the fees (united paid) are probably about right.

Nani is a good player from what I have seen, but I dont have that visceral inclination that he will ever be one of the best players in the world. I do think that Anderson - if he avoids injuries - will become one of the best players in the world and I thought that when I first saw him play for Porto.

Many questioned why we paid so much for Ronaldo at the time, but he turned out to be a bargain. In time we will see if SAF proves the doubters wrong, but even if they (Anderson and Nani) are only half as successful as Ronaldo was, then they will definitely be worth the money we paid for them.

They are both great talents... but a tad overpriced. Nearly 33m for both of them combined is daylight robbery at best.

But if they end up even anywhere close to their last signing from Portugal, In one stroke they would have sorted out their midfield for next 7-8 years.

A big gamble which only a select few like United can afford

I didn't watch them in Portugal, i think the only coverage we get of Portugese football is on at 4am on channel 5. But from what i've seen so far i can't say i'm impressed and neither would get in my prem U21 team. It's still very early days though.

Kimbo wrote:I didn't watch them in Portugal, i think the only coverage we get of Portugese football is on at 4am on channel 5. But from what i've seen so far i can't say i'm impressed and neither would get in my prem U21 team. It's still very early days though.

Milner > Nani

Parks lives wrote:

Kimbo wrote:I didn't watch them in Portugal, i think the only coverage we get of Portugese football is on at 4am on channel 5. But from what i've seen so far i can't say i'm impressed and neither would get in my prem U21 team. It's still very early days though.

Milner > Nani

Milner wouldn't get in either. Zog on the other hand...

How could I forget the Zog.

At Rooney being a future English captain while Nani won't be.

Face it, It's unjustifiable how Rooney was 23m pounds while Nani was around 15m, but then again english talent worths more.

rza wrote: At Rooney being a future English captain while Nani won't be.

Face it, It's unjustifiable how Rooney was 23m pounds while Nani was around 15m, but then again english talent worths more.

Nani will never be Englands captain, FACE IT!

With English players, you have to pay the being English tax as well as how much they are worth. The tax is between £5m-£10m

Kimbo wrote:

rza wrote: At Rooney being a future English captain while Nani won't be.

Face it, It's unjustifiable how Rooney was 23m pounds while Nani was around 15m, but then again english talent worths more.

Nani will never be Englands captain, FACE IT!

I can't wait for 23rd July 2010, so Nani can justify his fee.

rza wrote: At Rooney being a future English captain while Nani won't be.

Face it, It's unjustifiable how Rooney was 23m pounds while Nani was around 15m, but then again english talent worths more.

I wrote that as a united fan, not an England fan. From what I have seen Rooney at 16/17 was better than Nani now (at age 20).

Rooney is a great player, he is young and English. He is the future of united and there arent many players in the world I would swap him for.

Rooney was not overpriced the fee we paid for him IMO was about right. People are talking about paying £50m for Messi and he hasnt even played a full season of football yet. I dont think you will speak to one united fan who feels we got ripped off by Everton.

Man U buy two of the best youngsters available, paying more than they're worth on the grounds that they have great potential.


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rza wrote:

Kimbo wrote:

rza wrote: At Rooney being a future English captain while Nani won't be.

Face it, It's unjustifiable how Rooney was 23m pounds while Nani was around 15m, but then again english talent worths more.

Nani will never be Englands captain, FACE IT!

I can't wait for 23rd July 2010, so Nani can justify his fee.

Hopefully he justifies his fee earlier, like this season by helping us win the treble

Rabbit wrote:Man U buy two of the best youngsters available, paying more than they're worth on the grounds that they have great potential.


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Really like the look of Nani, looks to be settling in quicker than when Ronaldo came over four years ago.

I don't think anyone will bat an eye lid if both Nani and Anderson become integral parts of the Utd first team for the next decade.

The best time to judge will be when they leave Old Trafford, to whether they have justified their transfer fees.

I think Man Utd were well justified to splash the cash, because potentially they have two rough diamonds, and if only one of them turns out to be what is considered their potential, they will have in effect paid the other transfer off by being a 30million pound player.

I think they'll both come good, whether thats at United or another club remains to be seen.