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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/article2437525.ece
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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/article2437525.ece
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another top 50 list
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I can see loads of foreign posters moaning about this, when the top ten is mostly British managers.
Should of stuck to managers British or one's who have worked in Britain.
Should of stuck to managers British or one's who have worked in Britain.
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If Rinus Michels is not in the top5 it will be a travesty.
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bet he ain't
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Is Radomir Antic in the list?
Is Radomir Antic in the list?
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True , I still don't understand why Benetiz is higher than van Gaal ..
van Gaal built up and revolutionised a youth set up at Ajax (for example) , 50% or more of his successful side were homegrown , he deployed his own tactical formation (adopted from Cruijffs 3-4-3) etc
watch the 1994-95 Ajax team .. more exciting than anything Benetiz has done.
His only problem was *falling* out with Nunez at Barcelona and his national team problems.
Like Sparta says if Michels (whose team once raped Liverpool in Europe something like 5-1) does not make the top 5 .. the Times should never make anymore top 50 lists. Paisley should also be in the top 5 , the only coach to win 3 European Cups.
van Gaal built up and revolutionised a youth set up at Ajax (for example) , 50% or more of his successful side were homegrown , he deployed his own tactical formation (adopted from Cruijffs 3-4-3) etc
watch the 1994-95 Ajax team .. more exciting than anything Benetiz has done.
His only problem was *falling* out with Nunez at Barcelona and his national team problems.
Like Sparta says if Michels (whose team once raped Liverpool in Europe something like 5-1) does not make the top 5 .. the Times should never make anymore top 50 lists. Paisley should also be in the top 5 , the only coach to win 3 European Cups.
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It's going to be hugely British biased which you would expect.
So I'd fully expect Clough, Fergie, Paisley, Busby & Shankly will all be in the top 10.
So I'd fully expect Clough, Fergie, Paisley, Busby & Shankly will all be in the top 10.
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Raifael wrote:True , I still don't understand why Benetiz is higher than van Gaal ..
van Gaal built up and revolutionised a youth set up at Ajax (for example) , 50% or more of his successful side were homegrown , he deployed his own tactical formation (adopted from Cruijffs 3-4-3) etc
watch the 1994-95 Ajax team .. more exciting than anything Benetiz has done.
His only problem was *falling* out with Nunez at Barcelona and his national team problems.
Like Sparta says if Michels (whose team once raped Liverpool in Europe something like 5-1) does not make the top 5 .. the Times should never make anymore top 50 lists. Paisley should also be in the top 5 , the only coach to win 3 European Cups.
Benitez hasnt an annoying flat face....and aint a c**t.
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yep with capello, wenger will be top 25 as will mourinho
then there'll be a couple of brazilian wc winning managers
scolari, zagallo
then there'll be a couple of brazilian wc winning managers
scolari, zagallo
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But vGaal is much funnier, surely counts for something.
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Since 1888 wrote:But vGaal is much funnier, surely counts for something.
He is fun, cant deny that. I wonder if he is like this when he is with his family!
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Capello, Lippi, Sacchi, Trapattoni, S.A.F, Scolari, Pareira should be in the top 10
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Ernst Happel to win...I mean this guy was just a legend. 
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Stefan Kovacs should be in the top 20 , one of the most successful Club football coaches in history .. but i doubt the Times has ever heard of him. Valery Lobanovsky should also be in the top 20.
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Sven in at 46th, mmmmmmmmmmmmmm. He should get higher after we win the Champs League next season.
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Lippi should be #1. 
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Raifael wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pb1t7ZehPBo
Here's Chandler at his best : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oL8rkZDWj3I&mode=related&search=
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Axeslammer wrote:Raifael wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pb1t7ZehPBo
Here's Chandler at his best : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oL8rkZDWj3I&mode=related&search=
I love this - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtZh2N-_kqE
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Top TEN
10.Arsene Wenger
9. Miguel Munoz
8. Bela Guttman
7. Brian Clough
6. Bob Paisley
5. Bill Shankly
4. Sir Alex Ferguson
3. Ernst Happel
2. Sir Matt Busby
1. Rinus Michels
other selected:
Sacchi at no11 , Herrera at no13 , Zagallo at no14 , Cruijff at no15 , Mourinho at no16 , Lippi at no17 , Beckenbauer at no20 , Capello at no21
10.Arsene Wenger
9. Miguel Munoz
8. Bela Guttman
7. Brian Clough
6. Bob Paisley
5. Bill Shankly
4. Sir Alex Ferguson
3. Ernst Happel
2. Sir Matt Busby
1. Rinus Michels
other selected:
Sacchi at no11 , Herrera at no13 , Zagallo at no14 , Cruijff at no15 , Mourinho at no16 , Lippi at no17 , Beckenbauer at no20 , Capello at no21
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Agree with the top 2. 
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I agree with the top 3 ; i was surprised that they rate a legend like Happel
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no way is saf better than shankly, paisley, clough imho
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No Kovacs, Wenger in front of Sacchi, Herrera, Lippi or Capello. Del Bosque IN FRONT OF Capello. In top 10, 6 are EPL managers. Great.
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Parks lives wrote:I can see loads of foreign posters moaning about this, when the top ten is mostly British managers.
Should of stuck to managers British or one's who have worked in Britain.
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gone wrote:No Kovacs, Wenger in front of Sacchi, Herrera, Lippi or Capello. Del Bosque IN FRONT OF Capello. In top 10, 6 are EPL managers. Great.
Kovacs should easily be top 20 , won 2 European Cups and one of the most successful club manager in European football history.
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Parks lives wrote:Parks lives wrote:I can see loads of foreign posters moaning about this, when the top ten is mostly British managers.
Should of stuck to managers British or one's who have worked in Britain.
And you where right. I'm not even go into top 50 because some of them shouldn't even be on the list.
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The-Frank-Tavern wrote:no way is saf better than shankly, paisley, clough imho
Those 4 plus Busby are all so close, you could make a case for any of the 5 really.
Bubsy is the stand out for me though.
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I'm tempted to say Clough.
What he acheieved with Forest was pretty incredible. The other four managers all had reasonable budgets to realise their achievements with
What he acheieved with Forest was pretty incredible. The other four managers all had reasonable budgets to realise their achievements with
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Parks lives wrote:The-Frank-Tavern wrote:no way is saf better than shankly, paisley, clough imho
Those 4 plus Busby are all so close, you could make a case for any of the 5 really.
Bubsy is the stand out for me though.
Wait till bluenine sees where they put Herrera.
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