Premier League: from Sat 20 Oct 2007 to Mon 22 Oct 2007

Sir Les Jurgen of Ginola™ wrote:
I have long said in the past Dawson's style of no-holds barred defending, and last ditch blocks/tackles etc. clouds peoples views. He has no pace, doesn't lead, and his marking/distribution/awareness are frankly $h!t.

Sounds like John Terry.

Yet you have some Spurs fans who think he's better than Rio Ferdinand.

Again, sounds like John Terry...

Parks lives wrote:Pick the avatar then Kimbo, regulation size etc.

I'm going with Big Al.

Rabbit wrote:

Sir Les Jurgen of Ginola™ wrote:
I have long said in the past Dawson's style of no-holds barred defending, and last ditch blocks/tackles etc. clouds peoples views. He has no pace, doesn't lead, and his marking/distribution/awareness are frankly $h!t.

Sounds like John Terry.

Yet you have some Spurs fans who think he's better than Rio Ferdinand.

Again, sounds like John Terry...

As much as I hate JT, he's an excellent leader, has decent distribution (no worse a long passer than Rio), and competant awareness.

Sir Les Jurgen of Ginola™ wrote:
As much as I hate JT, he's an excellent leader, has decent distribution (no worse a long passer than Rio), and competant awareness.

You see, I wouldn't call hanging around 15 yards from goal, inviting teams onto you because you're slower than a milkfloat, all the while shouting at those around you to try to make up for your massive shortcomings as a player 'excellent' leadership.

I really think Terry is the most overrated player in the league now Pippy Longstockings has buggered off to Barca.

Rabbit wrote:

Sir Les Jurgen of Ginola wrote:
As much as I hate JT, he's an excellent leader, has decent distribution (no worse a long passer than Rio), and competant awareness.

You see, I wouldn't call hanging around 15 yards from goal, inviting teams onto you because you're slower than a milkfloat, all the while shouting at those around you to try to make up for your massive shortcomings as a player 'excellent' leadership.

I really think Terry is the most overrated player in the league now Pippy Longstockings has buggered off to Barca.

I Formally relinquish my my title as Chief John Terry hater over to Saints.

I'm sure Swarpee & Coater will be delighted.

PM me if you need any assistance - which I'm sure, you won't.

The only glimmer of relief to take from from last night was that Charles N'Zogbia didnt score. I dont think I could've beared it what with Dimbo and the child groomer Tweedles both simultaneously hanging out the back of him currently

TRWP wrote:The only glimmer of relief to take from from last night was that Charles N'Zogbia didnt score. I dont think I could've beared it what with Dimbo and the child groomer Tweedles both simultaneously hanging out the back of him currently

He played decent enough though. And if Faye's head had just gone 2 inches to the left he would've had an assist. Nevermind.

Where was Andy Lennon by the way?

Sir Les Jurgen of Ginola wrote:

Rabbit wrote:

Sir Les Jurgen of Ginola wrote:
As much as I hate JT, he's an excellent leader, has decent distribution (no worse a long passer than Rio), and competant awareness.

You see, I wouldn't call hanging around 15 yards from goal, inviting teams onto you because you're slower than a milkfloat, all the while shouting at those around you to try to make up for your massive shortcomings as a player 'excellent' leadership.

I really think Terry is the most overrated player in the league now Pippy Longstockings has buggered off to Barca.

I Formally relinquish my my title as Chief John Terry hater over to Saints.

I'm sure Swarpee & Coater will be delighted.

PM me if you need any assistance - which I'm sure, you won't.

Let's take it in turns, week by week. Like we did with Henry. We managed to force him out of the country, maybe we can do the same with Terry. I'm sure some second division Bulgarian side would be willing to give him a shot...

Kimbo wrote:

TRWP wrote:The only glimmer of relief to take from from last night was that Charles N'Zogbia didnt score. I dont think I could've beared it what with Dimbo and the child groomer Tweedles both simultaneously hanging out the back of him currently

He played decent enough though. And if Faye's head had just gone 2 inches to the left he would've had an assist. Nevermind.

Where was Andy Lennon by the way?

The return of Lennon to full fitness and on the right will herald the change in Spurs' fortunes. You heard it here first

Fair play, Newcastle deserved it, even though Martin Troll had one eye on the UEFA cup on thursday.

We'll take you at WHL though

TRWP wrote:

Kimbo wrote:

TRWP wrote:The only glimmer of relief to take from from last night was that Charles N'Zogbia didnt score. I dont think I could've beared it what with Dimbo and the child groomer Tweedles both simultaneously hanging out the back of him currently

He played decent enough though. And if Faye's head had just gone 2 inches to the left he would've had an assist. Nevermind.

Where was Andy Lennon by the way?

The return of Lennon to full fitness and on the right will herald the change in Spurs' fortunes. You heard it here first

Fair play, Newcastle deserved it, even though Martin Troll had one eye on the UEFA cup on thursday.

We'll take you at WHL though

Ofcourse, you have the mighty Getafe coming up, i can see why you were distracted.

Kimbo wrote:

TRWP wrote:

Kimbo wrote:

TRWP wrote:The only glimmer of relief to take from from last night was that Charles N'Zogbia didnt score. I dont think I could've beared it what with Dimbo and the child groomer Tweedles both simultaneously hanging out the back of him currently

He played decent enough though. And if Faye's head had just gone 2 inches to the left he would've had an assist. Nevermind.

Where was Andy Lennon by the way?

The return of Lennon to full fitness and on the right will herald the change in Spurs' fortunes. You heard it here first

Fair play, Newcastle deserved it, even though Martin Troll had one eye on the UEFA cup on thursday.

We'll take you at WHL though

Ofcourse, you have the mighty Getafe coming up, i can see why you were distracted.

Getafe- managed to beat Barca 4-0 or something ridiculous last season. Came 9th in La Liga.

Newcastle. 13th in Premiership last season.

We're having to play a better team on thursday than the one we played last night, so worth resting the likes of Berbatov and Lennon

TRWP wrote:

Kimbo wrote:

TRWP wrote:

Kimbo wrote:

TRWP wrote:The only glimmer of relief to take from from last night was that Charles N'Zogbia didnt score. I dont think I could've beared it what with Dimbo and the child groomer Tweedles both simultaneously hanging out the back of him currently

He played decent enough though. And if Faye's head had just gone 2 inches to the left he would've had an assist. Nevermind.

Where was Andy Lennon by the way?

The return of Lennon to full fitness and on the right will herald the change in Spurs' fortunes. You heard it here first

Fair play, Newcastle deserved it, even though Martin Troll had one eye on the UEFA cup on thursday.

We'll take you at WHL though

Ofcourse, you have the mighty Getafe coming up, i can see why you were distracted.

Getafe- managed to beat Barca 4-0 or something ridiculous last season. Came 9th in La Liga.

Newcastle. 13th in Premiership last season.

We're having to play a better team on thursday than the one we played last night, so worth resting the likes of Berbatov and Lennon

Getafe - Lost their manager in the summer and are now 18th in the league

Newcastle >>> Getafe = Spurs

Getafe - Lost their manager in the summer and are now 18th in the league

Newcastle >>> Getafe = Spurs

At this moment in time- indisputable. Its not even November though; lets wait and see how things stand come the end of the season

Can I just say, what a fine performance from Nicky Butt last night.

Parks lives wrote:Can I just say, what a fine performance from Nicky Butt last night.

The old donkey is still able to put in a performance here and there i'll give him that.

It was a very good performance from Butt. I thought he, along with the centre backs, were very solid. Butt made a number of excellent challenges and covered the pitch well too. Id still contest his man of the match award, though he seems an ever-popular man of the match awardee, standing as he does for commitment and being considered one of the most experienced of our players - he often wins the award when the team as a whole dont play well, whereas last night I thought we had some good patches of play, though the way we stood off at times, particularly in the second half, allowed Butt to do what hes best at. And like I say, he broke up the play really well. Personally Id have given the man of the match award to Martins, because for me, his goal won us the game - it came from his own determination, hed threatened a few times before that point and was our only outlet in attack throughout, the finish was good, hes probably the only player in our team who could have scored the goal, and in the end, after a mediocre first half overall, the goal was vital in establishing our superiority.

I did think there were some promising signs from last night, as well as a good result. Whilst Id still play Rozehnal at the back, probably along with Faye, its clear that we now have a very good choice of players at centre back. Both Faye and Cacapa are very strong defensively. And the full backs, despite poor delivery at times, overlapped pretty well, Enrique made one or two forays later on, Beye was strong in the tackle. Butt and Emre, whilst Emre was far from exceptional, at least worked better as a partnership in my opinion - Butt and Geremi, what with Geremis lack of mobility, always looks too static and uncreative, whilst they dont seem to communicate or compliment each other naturally. Geremi was poor, N'Zogbia improved through the first half and was starting to make some good runs down the left, and should have stayed on the pitch. Owen, however good he is at what he does, doesnt do enough, and certainly not enough for us. He stands high up the pitch and, when we dont have the ball all of the time, and dont always build moves, he doesnt get involved in the play but just hovers around.

Overall, like I say, I think at least indications of a more balanced team throughout.

TRWP wrote:

Kimbo wrote:

TRWP wrote:The only glimmer of relief to take from from last night was that Charles N'Zogbia didnt score. I dont think I could've beared it what with Dimbo and the child groomer Tweedles both simultaneously hanging out the back of him currently

He played decent enough though. And if Faye's head had just gone 2 inches to the left he would've had an assist. Nevermind.

Where was Andy Lennon by the way?

The return of Lennon to full fitness and on the right will herald the change in Spurs' fortunes. You heard it here first

Fair play, Newcastle deserved it, even though Martin Troll had one eye on the UEFA cup on thursday.

We'll take you at WHL though

Trwp....Spurs can only get better. Lennon will help even out those probabilities of you winning that much more. Is he really a game saver yet?

Brian2468 wrote:

TRWP wrote:

Kimbo wrote:

TRWP wrote:The only glimmer of relief to take from from last night was that Charles N'Zogbia didnt score. I dont think I could've beared it what with Dimbo and the child groomer Tweedles both simultaneously hanging out the back of him currently

He played decent enough though. And if Faye's head had just gone 2 inches to the left he would've had an assist. Nevermind.

Where was Andy Lennon by the way?

The return of Lennon to full fitness and on the right will herald the change in Spurs' fortunes. You heard it here first

Fair play, Newcastle deserved it, even though Martin Troll had one eye on the UEFA cup on thursday.

We'll take you at WHL though

Trwp....Spurs can only get better. Lennon will help even out those probabilities of you winning that much more. Is he really a game saver yet?

I'll field this one 1trick. No, and i doubt he ever will be.

Getafe have been terrible this season and only just got their first win on Sunday. If Spurs can't win that match then I can't think of more apt signals that Jol needs to go.

Nice post Bash ,
so this is your best team according to you

--------------Given---------------
Beye----------Faye--------Rozenhal--------Enrique

----Milner------Butt----Emre------------N Zog

---------------Martins-----Viduka

or Barton gets in there ahead of Butt , pretty solid looking defence just need some quality in midfield like Appiah perhaps.

Kimbo wrote:

Brian2468 wrote:

TRWP wrote:

Kimbo wrote:

TRWP wrote:The only glimmer of relief to take from from last night was that Charles N'Zogbia didnt score. I dont think I could've beared it what with Dimbo and the child groomer Tweedles both simultaneously hanging out the back of him currently

He played decent enough though. And if Faye's head had just gone 2 inches to the left he would've had an assist. Nevermind.

Where was Andy Lennon by the way?

The return of Lennon to full fitness and on the right will herald the change in Spurs' fortunes. You heard it here first

Fair play, Newcastle deserved it, even though Martin Troll had one eye on the UEFA cup on thursday.

We'll take you at WHL though

Trwp....Spurs can only get better. Lennon will help even out those probabilities of you winning that much more. Is he really a game saver yet?

I'll field this one 1trick. No, and i doubt he ever will be.

I dont like attributing a team performance to one or two individuals, however I'd say-

Of course he is Dimbo. He helped win us the game against Chelsea at home last season for a start, and despite your inability to accept it, Lennon has been one of the main reasons we finished 5th for the last 2 seasons.

Berbatov has only been here for one season, King hasnt played for most of last, and therefore Keane and Lennon have been the 2 major players for Spurs over those seasons.

He is, and always will be, better than N'Zogbia

TRWP wrote:
He is, and always will be, better than N'Zogbia

You still believe that then, i've got to admire your hardheaded attitude, i think even TS is wavering tbh, although he won't admit it.


@ DS

Yeah that probably is our best team at the moment, it's the team we should play at home atleast. Away we should probably go 4-3-3, this is what i would like to see...

--------------Given--------------

Beye--Faye--Cacapa--Enrique

------------Rozehnal------------
--------Geremi----Emre--------

--Martins------------N'Zogbia--
-------------Viduka-------------

Kimbo wrote:

TRWP wrote:
He is, and always will be, better than N'Zogbia

You still believe that then, i've got to admire your hardheaded attitude, i think even TS is wavering tbh, although he won't admit it.

What on earth are you talking about ?

Sir Les Jurgen of Ginola wrote:

Kimbo wrote:

TRWP wrote:
He is, and always will be, better than N'Zogbia

You still believe that then, i've got to admire your hardheaded attitude, i think even TS is wavering tbh, although he won't admit it.

What on earth are you talking about ?

I just get the feeling that your denial is slipping. I'm seeing less and less Andy Lennon hype coming from you. Just a feeling.

Kimbo wrote:

Sir Les Jurgen of Ginola wrote:

Kimbo wrote:

TRWP wrote:
He is, and always will be, better than N'Zogbia

You still believe that then, i've got to admire your hardheaded attitude, i think even TS is wavering tbh, although he won't admit it.

What on earth are you talking about ?

I just get the feeling that your denial is slipping. I'm seeing less and less Andy Lennon hype coming from you. Just a feeling.

Lennon needs to get a bit of Sharpness back - he'll be fine.

Kimbo wrote:

Sir Les Jurgen of Ginola wrote:

Kimbo wrote:

TRWP wrote:
He is, and always will be, better than N'Zogbia

You still believe that then, i've got to admire your hardheaded attitude, i think even TS is wavering tbh, although he won't admit it.

What on earth are you talking about ?

I just get the feeling that your denial is slipping. I'm seeing less and less Andy Lennon hype coming from you. Just a feeling.

Its because he's been injured for ages Kimmy .

Its not hype anyway, its reality - its no suprise we've been struggling without him. To quote Nutwing- we miss his deep penetration. Says I etc.

Sir Les Jurgen of Ginola wrote:

Kimbo wrote:

Sir Les Jurgen of Ginola wrote:

Kimbo wrote:

TRWP wrote:
He is, and always will be, better than N'Zogbia

You still believe that then, i've got to admire your hardheaded attitude, i think even TS is wavering tbh, although he won't admit it.

What on earth are you talking about ?

I just get the feeling that your denial is slipping. I'm seeing less and less Andy Lennon hype coming from you. Just a feeling.

Lennon needs to get a bit of Sharpness back - he'll be fine.

Sure, he'll be back to swinging beautiful crosses in and picking smart passes in no time.

Kimbo do you think you will bring in some quality in Jan or would there be just squad covers like LB,RB or a winger.

Dark Savante wrote:Kimbo do you think you will bring in some quality in Jan or would there be just squad covers like LB,RB or a winger.

I haven't the foggiest, i wouldn't be surprised to see us move for Scott Brown or Diouf in january - they've both been linked. I know we're buying an 18 year old striker from Le Harve called Wesley Ngo Baheng, that's for definite.