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Top Ten Centre Backs in the EPL?
Hlebagone- Number of posts : 6086
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Parks lives- Number of posts : 34521
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So most seem to agree the top 3 is between Gallas, Carvahilo and Ferdinand.
Tweesus- Number of posts : 34851
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Glenn 'Christmas' Hysén wrote:Tweesus of Nazareth wrote:How would this affect Batman's Access 2000 database Glenn? I fail to see it.
He'll have all the field names set up, and of course some sort of input mask and simple validation rules, but its simply a matter of importing the data as some sot of Excel compatible file. I can't see how me carrying forward the 'centre back' section, will have a detrimental effect on the data reliability of his dataset
It could be time sensitive, it could be set up to read data direct from his own posts or threads that he starts. More importantly I just think it's rude to muscle in on his threadology, particularly since you're intelligent enough to see that he was going somewhere. TM is an idiot and you can almost forgive his retarded behaviour, you however should spend some time on the naughty step.
Time sensitive?! Fair play...
When Batman comes on I'll make a very humble apology to him.
HOWEVER
I think its worth pointing out that I adopted his template down to the minutest detail. So be lenient...
Tweesus- Number of posts : 34851
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Spankeltoe wrote:So most seem to agree the top 3 is between Gallas, Carvahilo and Ferdinand.
Carv - al - ho
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Carnavalho 
Hlebagone- Number of posts : 6086
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And thats why this is the best board in the world.Spankeltoe wrote:So most seem to agree the top 3 is between Gallas, Carvahilo and Ferdinand.
Seriously though, i doubt you could find another message board where the majority of posters think this.
Glenarch of the Glen- Number of posts : 30157
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Will be interesting comparing out results against the....
Best 100 Players in the World*
2. Cristiano Ronaldo (Man Utd)
6. Steven Gerrard (Liverpool)
8. Wayne Rooney (Manchester United)
11. Petr Cech (Chelsea)
17. Paul Scholes (Man Utd)
22. John Terry (Chelsea)
24. Rio Ferdinand (Man Utd)
25. Frank Lampard (Chelsea)
27. Ashley Cole (Chelsea)
29. Ryan Giggs (Man Utd)
33. Cesc Fabregas (Arsenal)
34. Fernando Torres (Liverpool)
35. Ricardo Carvalho (Chelsea)
38. Berbatov (Spurs)
41. Michael Ballack (Chelsea)
44. Carlos Tevez (Man Utd)
45. Malouda (Chelsea)
52. Owen Hargraves (Man Utd)
54. Alex (Chelsea)
58. Joe Cole (Chelsea)
64. Shevchenko (Chelsea)
67. William Gallas (Arsenal)
68. Michael Owen (Newcastle)
78. Nemanja Vidic (Man Utd)
82. Robin Van Persie (Arsenal)
85. Gary Neville (Man Utd)
89. Eduardo Da Silva (Arsenal)
94. Javier Mascherano (Liverpool)
97. Jamie Carragher (Liverpool)
* Based on the October 2007 edition of FourFourTwo Magazine
Best 100 Players in the World*
2. Cristiano Ronaldo (Man Utd)
6. Steven Gerrard (Liverpool)
8. Wayne Rooney (Manchester United)
11. Petr Cech (Chelsea)
17. Paul Scholes (Man Utd)
22. John Terry (Chelsea)
24. Rio Ferdinand (Man Utd)
25. Frank Lampard (Chelsea)
27. Ashley Cole (Chelsea)
29. Ryan Giggs (Man Utd)
33. Cesc Fabregas (Arsenal)
34. Fernando Torres (Liverpool)
35. Ricardo Carvalho (Chelsea)
38. Berbatov (Spurs)
41. Michael Ballack (Chelsea)
44. Carlos Tevez (Man Utd)
45. Malouda (Chelsea)
52. Owen Hargraves (Man Utd)
54. Alex (Chelsea)
58. Joe Cole (Chelsea)
64. Shevchenko (Chelsea)
67. William Gallas (Arsenal)
68. Michael Owen (Newcastle)
78. Nemanja Vidic (Man Utd)
82. Robin Van Persie (Arsenal)
85. Gary Neville (Man Utd)
89. Eduardo Da Silva (Arsenal)
94. Javier Mascherano (Liverpool)
97. Jamie Carragher (Liverpool)
* Based on the October 2007 edition of FourFourTwo Magazine
Sgoater1- Number of posts : 11129
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f@ck me you should all be ashamed of yourselves, i can not believe that no-one has put Richard Dunne in their top 10...this guy is simply amazing and the most under-rated centre back in the EPL, there is a reason he has been named our player of the year 3 years on the trot (ahead of Richards and Distin who both make a lot of peoples lists) he is amazingly consistent and does it against all the top strikers year after year. He is strong, brilliant in the air, good on the ball, actually fairly fast and always gives 100% every game.
If he was English he would be a regular in the international squad..Sven said as much just last week.
If he was English he would be a regular in the international squad..Sven said as much just last week.
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Hlebagone- Number of posts : 6086
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ahemSgoater1 wrote:f@ck me you should all be ashamed of yourselves, i can not believe that no-one has put Richard Dunne in their top 10...this guy is simply amazing and the most under-rated centre back in the EPL, there is a reason he has been named our player of the year 3 years on the trot (ahead of Richards and Distin who both make a lot of peoples lists) he is amazingly consistent and does it against all the top strikers year after year. He is strong, brilliant in the air, good on the ball, actually fairly fast and always gives 100% every game.
shazlx- Number of posts : 5564
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Most peoples lists are filled with 'top 4' starting defenders plus Alex, King, Woodgate and/or Campbell. Who would you take out of these defenders for him to replace.Sgoater1 wrote:f@ck me you should all be ashamed of yourselves, i can not believe that no-one has put Richard Dunne in their top 10...this guy is simply amazing and the most under-rated centre back in the EPL, there is a reason he has been named our player of the year 3 years on the trot (ahead of Richards and Distin who both make a lot of peoples lists) he is amazingly consistent and does it against all the top strikers year after year. He is strong, brilliant in the air, good on the ball, actually fairly fast and always gives 100% every game.
If he was English he would be a regular in the international squad..Sven said as much just last week.
Hlebagone- Number of posts : 6086
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King as he hasnt played for ages and Campbell. Also, this season, Woodgate hasnt been that great.
Glenarch of the Glen- Number of posts : 30157
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Hlebanukkah wrote:Woodgate hasnt been that great.
Woodgate essentially retired the day he signed for Boro
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Tweesus of Nazareth wrote:Glenn 'Christmas' Hysén wrote:L r d wrote:
All these threads are $h!t to be honest. Not really real football topics, just lazy ideas. But it's better than nothing.
Batman has a plan, it's not the same as Spanky's 'Top 5 Crisp Flavours' he's clearly going somewhere with this. Certainly doesn't need Tweeds and Gunda's big feet in the mix.
Well, the other one had faded out...
I'm sure the eventual plan is to complie some sort of EMB top ten for every position and then see how many of those are English, so as to prove that we do indeed have a squad of world class footballers
More likely to prove that Man U have most of the best players. Batman's a mean man with a stat but he's usually got a 'hidden' agenda....
Deluded F*ck™- Number of posts : 21765
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Dunne would be in my top 15, Goat. John Terry without the hype
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El Gafferwrote:Dunne would be in my top 15, Goat. John Terry without the hype
or the medals
Sgoater1- Number of posts : 11129
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shazlx wrote:Most peoples lists are filled with 'top 4' starting defenders plus Alex, King, Woodgate and/or Campbell. Who would you take out of these defenders for him to replace.Sgoater1 wrote:f@ck me you should all be ashamed of yourselves, i can not believe that no-one has put Richard Dunne in their top 10...this guy is simply amazing and the most under-rated centre back in the EPL, there is a reason he has been named our player of the year 3 years on the trot (ahead of Richards and Distin who both make a lot of peoples lists) he is amazingly consistent and does it against all the top strikers year after year. He is strong, brilliant in the air, good on the ball, actually fairly fast and always gives 100% every game.
If he was English he would be a regular in the international squad..Sven said as much just last week.
Id put Dunne ahead of Alex, King, Woodgate and Campbell....no disrespect but he is fucking miles better than all of them. People just dont appreciate how amazing he is.
Sgoater1- Number of posts : 11129
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COTR wrote:El Gaffer
or the medals
What cos he hasnt got many medals that makes him a worse player ? Darren Fletcher has won more than Matt le Tissier ever did but isnt even worthy to wipe le Tissier's ass.
Sgoater1- Number of posts : 11129
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1. Gallas
2. Carvalho
3. Terry
4. Dunne
5. Richards / Toure too hard to pick between them !
6. Vidic
7. Rio
8. Carragher
9. Distin
I know people will moan and say Dunne isnt that good but ive watched him week in and week out for years against some of the best strikers in Europe and he is top class....its a shame for England he is Irish.
2. Carvalho
3. Terry
4. Dunne
5. Richards / Toure too hard to pick between them !
6. Vidic
7. Rio
8. Carragher
9. Distin
I know people will moan and say Dunne isnt that good but ive watched him week in and week out for years against some of the best strikers in Europe and he is top class....its a shame for England he is Irish.
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Sgoater1 wrote:COTR wrote:El Gaffer
or the medals
What cos he hasnt got many medals that makes him a worse player ? Darren Fletcher has won more than Matt le Tissier ever did but isnt even worthy to wipe le Tissier's ass.
I don't think you can compare fletcher's role in winning the trophies with terry's role do you ?
T/S was just being his usual mischievous self
Sgoater1- Number of posts : 11129
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COTR wrote:Sgoater1 wrote:COTR wrote:El Gaffer
or the medals
What cos he hasnt got many medals that makes him a worse player ? Darren Fletcher has won more than Matt le Tissier ever did but isnt even worthy to wipe le Tissier's ass.
I don't think you can compare fletcher's role in winning the trophies with terry's role do you ?
T/S was just being his usual mischievous self
I wasnt comparing those too what i was doing was saying just cos one player wins more than another EG Fletcher more than le tisier or as you said Terry over Dunne...it doesnt mean they are better than them it just means they play for a more successful club.
shazlx- Number of posts : 5564
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I know is your opinion and all but I feel I have to point on this. Rio and Vidic only 7th and 6th. Scandalous. They have the best defensive record (well they had, haven't checked them recently). They haven't played behind a DM as Hargreaves has been injured and they're goalkeepeer in unreliable.Sgoater1 wrote:1. Gallas
2. Carvalho
3. Terry
4. Dunne
5. Richards / Toure too hard to pick between them !
6. Vidic
7. Rio
8. Carragher
9. Distin
I know people will moan and say Dunne isnt that good but ive watched him week in and week out for years against some of the best strikers in Europe and he is top class....its a shame for England he is Irish.
And to put Richards so high when he has some of the worse positioning of and CD in the top ten is just incorrect. IMO Distin >>> Richards in almost every way apart from aerial ability. The 6-0 thrashing at Chelsea would never happen to ManU.
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Gallas
Carvalho
Ferdinand
Toure
Woodgate
Agger
Terry
Vidic
Campbell
Dunne
Carvalho
Ferdinand
Toure
Woodgate
Agger
Terry
Vidic
Campbell
Dunne
COTR- Number of posts : 26580
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shazlx wrote:I know is your opinion and all but I feel I have to point on this. Rio and Vidic only 7th and 6th. Scandalous. They have the best defensive record (well they had, haven't checked them recently). They haven't played behind a DM as Hargreaves has been injured and they're goalkeepeer in unreliable.Sgoater1 wrote:1. Gallas
2. Carvalho
3. Terry
4. Dunne
5. Richards / Toure too hard to pick between them !
6. Vidic
7. Rio
8. Carragher
9. Distin
I know people will moan and say Dunne isnt that good but ive watched him week in and week out for years against some of the best strikers in Europe and he is top class....its a shame for England he is Irish.
And to put Richards so high when he has some of the worse positioning of and CD in the top ten is just incorrect. IMO Distin >>> Richards in almost every way apart from aerial ability. The 6-0 thrashing at Chelsea would never happen to ManU.
Liverpool as usual have the best record
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shazlx wrote:I know is your opinion and all but I feel I have to point on this. Rio and Vidic only 7th and 6th. Scandalous. They have the best defensive record (well they had, haven't checked them recently).
This season? Because they certainly did not last season.
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COTR wrote:
Liverpool as usual have the best record
but how? Aren't our players and manager rubbish?
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Glenn 'Christmas' Hysén wrote:COTR wrote:
Liverpool as usual have the best record
but how? Aren't our players and manager rubbish?
S4P- Number of posts : 14358
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COTR wrote:Liverpool as usual have the best record
Maybe so far this season, but certainly not in previous years.
Goals conceded 2006-07:
Chelsea 24
Liverpool 27
Man Utd 27
Arsenal 35
2005-06:
Chelsea 22
Liverpool 25
Arsenal 31
Man Utd 34
2004-05:
Chelsea 15
Man Utd 26
Arsenal 36
Liverpool 41
I'm confident we'll catch you up. After all, you are our bitch in this department.
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1. Carvalho
2. Gallas
3. ferdinand
4. Toure
5. Alex
6. terry
7. carra, vidic
8. Agger
9. Woodgate
10. Dunne, Richards
2. Gallas
3. ferdinand
4. Toure
5. Alex
6. terry
7. carra, vidic
8. Agger
9. Woodgate
10. Dunne, Richards
Sgoater1- Number of posts : 11129
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shazlx wrote:I know is your opinion and all but I feel I have to point on this. Rio and Vidic only 7th and 6th. Scandalous. They have the best defensive record (well they had, haven't checked them recently). They haven't played behind a DM as Hargreaves has been injured and they're goalkeepeer in unreliable.Sgoater1 wrote:1. Gallas
2. Carvalho
3. Terry
4. Dunne
5. Richards / Toure too hard to pick between them !
6. Vidic
7. Rio
8. Carragher
9. Distin
I know people will moan and say Dunne isnt that good but ive watched him week in and week out for years against some of the best strikers in Europe and he is top class....its a shame for England he is Irish.
And to put Richards so high when he has some of the worse positioning of and CD in the top ten is just incorrect. IMO Distin >>> Richards in almost every way apart from aerial ability. The 6-0 thrashing at Chelsea would never happen to ManU.
Yeah but look at the protection that they get even without Hargreaves playing they are playing in a better team. So far this season Dunne and Richards have only conceeded 5 in 15 games taking aside Chelsea and Fulham and got 9 clean sheets....that is an amazing record when you look at the fact we finished 15th last season.
I know this is all about opinion and your well entitled to yours mate im just going off what ive seen. i think vidic is class and very much on a par with richards and Toure, as for Ferdiand i think he is very overrated.
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at last somebody with some senseSgoater1 wrote: as for Ferdiand i think he is very overrated.
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