Group A - Barcelona, Chelsea, Werder Bremen, Levski Sofia

rai Mihawk wrote:@ blutgraetsche

I think the ONE showed 'Lampard' how to score from 12 yards..

.. Klose could have made it 1:1, then it would have been a different game (don't know how he edged Boulahrouz)

Especially his second header was very difficult to take, was a bit unlucky to hit the bar. But hey, Klose is crap against class defenders, that's what all the wise guys here have been saying at least...

La Saeta Rubia wrote:Thuram was lucky the ref didnt give Levski that penalty ....

yeah, they might just have staged a come back if he had given it.

how did chelsea's 4 centre midfielders work... surely they will not win trophies playing like this especially with fullbacks that don't really attack too well

blutgraetsche wrote:

rai Mihawk wrote:@ blutgraetsche

I think the ONE showed 'Lampard' how to score from 12 yards..

.. Klose could have made it 1:1, then it would have been a different game (don't know how he edged Boulahrouz)

Especially his second header was very difficult to take, was a bit unlucky to hit the bar. But hey, Klose is crap against class defenders, that's what all the wise guys here have been saying at least...

Boulahrouz IS Class

.. i don't believe that ("Klose is crap against class defenders"); Klose brings fear into the hearts of all defenders (apart from Vidic)

toon h wrote:

La Saeta Rubia wrote:Thuram was lucky the ref didnt give Levski that penalty ....

yeah, they might just have staged a come back if he had given it.

Levski was robbed and you know it lol, Unicef FC cant lose in the Poo Camp its not allowed

wtf ballack, best pentaly i`ve ever seen

@ Deisler

this is the best penalty i have seen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ieOS1qSj4Q

Sheffield gunner wrote:Chelsea are 2-0 with a Ballack penalty. The situation could have been very different with Klose hitting the crossbar just minutes before the penalty was awarded.

When I say that games at this level frequently turn on moments of bad/good luck, tiny misjudgements or refereeing mistakes I get people passionately disagreeing with me. Chelsea were quite disjointed at times today but as the great one says (and Wenger agrees with him) it's not surprising when all these blasted internationals are stealing the clubs training time

Freddie Or Not wrote:Diego = poo.

Errr... no.

Rosy wrote: Chelsea were quite disjointed at times today but as the great one says (and Wenger agrees with him) it's not surprising when all these blasted internationals are stealing the clubs training time

I agree, its difficult to get new signings settled in immediately when they have to play internationals straight after the transfer window closes.
I think it will take Chelsea quite a while to get into a settled style of play because they are trying to accommodate four central midfielders and it will take some time for them to figure out how to play with them effectively.

Diego is class but what do you expect when hes up against a central midfield quartet of Lampard, Ballack, Essien and Maka

Distinguished Dutchman wrote:

Freddie Or Not wrote:Diego = poo.

Errr... no.

Diego was pretty useless today. I know he's a talented player and I've heard that he's made a really good start to his Werder Bremen career, but tonight he was dissapointing. He created precisely zero. He obviously has nice technique and is comfortable on the ball, but he didn't thread a single ball through the Chelsea defence. His ball retention was decent but his passes were exclusively lateral and umimaginative. I expected more from him. I'm sure he's capable of more.

Great start to the CL campaign for the current European Champions. Can't wait for the Chelsea games!!

Two weeks left for Mertesacker to regain fitness. Hope he'll play against Barcelona at home. Only then do we have a realistic chance to achieve anything in that match, and in this group.

Fortunately, Wiese should be back by then.

Good start, good performance, no injuries, lots of goals (from 5 diff. scorers), high confidence. Chelsea only scored from a penalty and a mistake, but they must have played well and Werder are harder than Sofia anyway. All in all a good day.

What a goal from Dinho

Just saw the Chelsea goals...the penalty decision was interesting...same old Drogba eh? Always diving.

If that was in the Barca game I'm sure us Barca fans would hear about it no end.

No point in getting angry about a (very dodgy) decision by the ref. We had our chances in the match, we didn't use them, while Chelsea did, simple as that.

Despite the defeat, I'm not that pessimistic about our chances to advance from this group now. It still will be very difficult to do so, but knowing that our team lacks form these days, and the injuries we had to deal with, we did ok, better than expected at least.

Once Mertesacker is fit and fully integrated, and our key players regain their usual form, we'll make life very hard for our opponents. It all depends on when this happens, the sooner the better. But even if we don't make it out of this tough group, I think that we will have a good chance to win the UEFA cup.

P.S.: This is the third time in a row that Werder lost the first CL match 2-0, and in both years so far, Werder managed to advance from the group stages.

does any one have a link to the chelsea goal

Try that rojadirecta website.

Freddie Or Not wrote:I actually feel slightly sorry for A. Cole - that was a woeful full debut. Genuinely more passes were errant than were on target. Constantly inaccurate and sloppy. Got caught in possession 3 times as well.

Ballack and Essien were excellent. Lampard had a couple of good moments - one great pass in first half.

Generally very comfortable for Chelsea. Never thought for a second that they were in real danger - Klose's excellent header excluded.

Diego = poo.

funny that..here in germany my newspaper wrote that ballack had a pretty subdued game 'but was still given a warm applause when leaving the pitch'

i havnt seen the game but they also wrote that chelseas win was very well deserved

La Saeta Rubia wrote:Chelsea done a fair bit of diving today, first Ballack in the 1st half then Drogba in the 2nd, Mourinho must have had them watching Barça videos.

...im not sure about drogba as i havnt seen many chelsea games but ballack has been a world class diver for many a year...he doesnt need any lessons from anybody...he could GIVE lessons to barca

blutgraetsche wrote:

rai Mihawk wrote:@ blutgraetsche

I think the ONE showed 'Lampard' how to score from 12 yards..

.. Klose could have made it 1:1, then it would have been a different game (don't know how he edged Boulahrouz)

Especially his second header was very difficult to take, was a bit unlucky to hit the bar. But hey, Klose is crap against class defenders, that's what all the wise guys here have been saying at least...

did he score then?..i heard he missed a sitter from 8 yards again...no?

blutgraetsche wrote:No point in getting angry about a (very dodgy) decision by the ref.

wasnt there at least one other clear penalty for chelsea that didnt get given?....see...thats the problem with your posts....VERY one sided..

Jose:

"I have 100% confidence in Lampard but I said if the next penalty was crucial, it's better for another player to take it.

"If the next one comes where Lampard is cool he will take it again."

Mourinho added: "People remember Lampard missing a penalty against Charlton but I remember him scoring more than 10 penalties for us."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/europe/5333808.stm

Does this make sense? Hey Frank, you can only take penalties when there's no pressure?

I have to say, if you've got a German, you've gotta use him. I love Gerrard but he's s**t at penalties.

Roger_Hunt wrote:Jose:

"I have 100% confidence in Lampard but I said if the next penalty was crucial, it's better for another player to take it.

"If the next one comes where Lampard is cool he will take it again."

Mourinho added: "People remember Lampard missing a penalty against Charlton but I remember him scoring more than 10 penalties for us."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/europe/5333808.stm

Does this make sense? Hey Frank, you can only take penalties when there's no pressure?

I have to say, if you've got a German, you've gotta use him. I love Gerrard but he's s**t at penalties.

Yes, just so Lampard's resale value stock doesn't drop too much. And some kind of attempt to cover the fact that Lampard's falling out of favour with the manager. I doubt its some confidence boost like Jose is attempting to say.

did you read these comments

Mourinho also hit out at the referee's decision to show four yellow cards to his players in the second half and hinted that there may be a conspiracy against his team.

He said: "The reality is that if you look at Barcelona tonight they had no yellow cards, Bayern Munich had no yellow card, Liverpool had no yellow card, Valencia had no yellow cards, Roma had no yellow cards but Chelsea have four. Do you think it is violence?"



the man is officially insane

more from jose

Jose Mourinho temporarily took away Chelsea's penalty-taking responsibility from Frank Lampard last night - and then launched a fierce attack on the England midfielder's critics.
"Something is happening with the English press in relation to Frank Lampard," he said. "He is guilty because you have never had a player like him in the last 10 years. He is guilty because he scores so many goals and plays so many matches for Chelsea and England with 100% effort in every game. I think you should respect him a bit more - I'm angry about the way you treat Frank Lampard."



nope jose... he is guilty because he is currently as useful as an england shirt in otto's house

José is absolutely right about Frank! But entire wrong on the conspiracy thing...

ricardojol wrote:José is absolutely right about Frank! But entire wrong on the conspiracy thing...

Rubbish, he knows there's something wrong or he wouldn't of taken him off penalties.