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    Post by dont panic! Mon Dec 03, 2007 1:16 pm

    i remember when germany were in a similar situation a few years ago no one wanted the job..everyone was saing 'NO WAY...THEY ARE $h!t!!!!'

    klinsmann was the only one who showed any interest at all...

    so..whats different with england?
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    Post by Ä Mon Dec 03, 2007 1:32 pm

    England are very attractive to manage because

    a) everybody knows that the next generation is going to be EVEN better (people are already talking about a Platinum Generation)

    b) every manager knows that he will not last more than 2 years, but get a contract for 6 years earning £6 million per year, ie £36 million for 2 years ( word has it, that's a decent salary and enough to buy a Semi in London these days)

    c) the main reason: the challenge of the impossible

    think about it this way; winning the World Cup with Germany should have been easy and therefore no real achievement ( I know, Klinsi fluffed even that one)

    assuring that England qualify for the next WC would be the equivalent of eating cabbage without breaking wind

    or rather

    think of all those girls dating gay guys

    WHY do they do it

    well, they figure that if they convert him, that have accomplished mission impossible

    ie

    a MASSIVE EGO BOOST

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    managing Germany would entail endless criticism from about 1000 European and World Champions the country has produced

    making England pass a ball, however, would end in automatic ennoblement by HM the QUEEN

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    Post by dont panic! Mon Dec 03, 2007 1:41 pm

    36-0tto wrote:England are very attractive to manage because

    a) everybody knows that the next generation is going to be EVEN better (people are already talking about a Platinum Generation)

    b) every manager knows that he will not last more than 2 years, but get a contract for 6 years earning £6 million per year, ie £36 million for 2 years ( word has it, that's a decent salary and enough to buy a Semi in London these days)

    c) the main reason: the challenge of the impossible

    think about it this way; winning the World Cup with Germany should have been easy and therefore no real achievement ( I know, Klinsi fluffed even that one)

    assuring that England qualify for the next WC would be the equivalent of eating cabbage without breaking wind

    or rather

    think of all those girls dating gay guys

    WHY do they do it

    well, they figure that if they convert him, that have accomplished mission impossible

    ie

    a MASSIVE EGO BOOST

    +

    managing Germany would entail endless criticism from about 1000 European and World Champions the country has produced

    making England pass a ball, however, would end in automatic ennoblement by HM the QUEEN

    wahre G

    hi otto..you still enjoying your cycling?
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    Post by Ä Mon Dec 03, 2007 1:52 pm

    dont panic! wrote:



    hi otto..you still enjoying your cycling?

    why ?

    want to go for a ride ?
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    Post by bluenine Mon Dec 03, 2007 1:55 pm

    I think its a combination of high visibility, good players underachieving (ie potential), good salary, and the bigger challenge. Also there might be a few "media candidates" who are in reality not interested.

    If a manager leads Italy or Brazil to the WC semis, he will be forgotten very quickly, but if you do that with England, you will become a hero.

    dont panic! wrote:i remember when germany were in a similar situation a few years ago no one wanted the job..everyone was saing 'NO WAY...THEY ARE $h!t!!!!'

    klinsmann was the only one who showed any interest at all...

    so..whats different with england?


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    Post by Kroos Mon Dec 03, 2007 2:33 pm

    lol! lol! lol!
    platinum edition


    oh yeah and from wich top managers you are talking???


    i always read, no please not, thats a facking mission impossible
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    Post by dont panic! Mon Dec 03, 2007 2:38 pm

    Toni Kroos wrote:lol! lol! lol!
    platinum edition


    oh yeah and from wich top managers you are talking???


    i always read, no please not, thats a facking mission impossible


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    Post by Allez les rouges Mon Dec 03, 2007 3:33 pm

    Deisler vs. Trees!!!!! Yeeeaaahhhhh!!!

    Round 17: go go go...
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    Post by Brian2468 Mon Dec 03, 2007 5:26 pm

    Fame and Money. Top managers must like a challenge.

    Sven-Goran Eriksson was closer to pulling off an amazing achievement than most would admit. Looking back it is easy to say what if? Under his system I feel he could of pulled off one tournament by adding one player. A wc goalie like Buffon. 2002 England v Brasil soft goal in that game changed everything... 2004 losing to penalties to Portugal...Same in 2006.

    I think any good coach that comes has a real chance to change things for the better long term now that England are flat on there backsides. He needs to be honest to the media first and tell it how it is. Media and pundits alike need to stop hyping up your players, it hurts the game both at club and national level. Firstly fast stream the system to create top goalies... Spend millions on finding sports minded athletes over 6'4" to get involved......Smile Ale
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    Post by dont panic! Mon Dec 03, 2007 5:28 pm

    Brian2468 wrote:Fame and Money. Top managers must like a challenge.

    Sven-Goran Eriksson was closer to pulling off an amazing achievement than most would admit. Looking back it is easy to say what if? Under his system I feel he could of pulled off one tournament by adding one player. A wc goalie like Buffon. 2002 England v Brasil soft goal in that game changed everything... 2004 losing to penalties to Portugal...Same in 2006.

    I think any good coach that comes has a real chance to change things for the better long term now that England are flat on there backsides. He needs to be honest to the media first and tell it how it is. Media and pundits alike need to stop hyping up your players, it hurts the game both at club and national level. Firstly fast stream the system to create top goalies... Spend millions on finding sports minded athletes over 6'4" to get involved......Smile Ale

    so english players are $h!t..but if we had had a great goalie we may have won the world cup?

    doesnt make sence...
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    Post by Brian2468 Mon Dec 03, 2007 5:33 pm

    dont panic! wrote:
    Brian2468 wrote:Fame and Money. Top managers must like a challenge.

    Sven-Goran Eriksson was closer to pulling off an amazing achievement than most would admit. Looking back it is easy to say what if? Under his system I feel he could of pulled off one tournament by adding one player. A wc goalie like Buffon. 2002 England v Brasil soft goal in that game changed everything... 2004 losing to penalties to Portugal...Same in 2006.

    I think any good coach that comes has a real chance to change things for the better long term now that England are flat on there backsides. He needs to be honest to the media first and tell it how it is. Media and pundits alike need to stop hyping up your players, it hurts the game both at club and national level. Firstly fast stream the system to create top goalies... Spend millions on finding sports minded athletes over 6'4" to get involved......Smile Ale

    so english players are $h!t..but if we had had a great goalie we may have won the world cup?

    doesnt make sence...

    DP..... You may not have to have the best players to win the World Cup the best team on the day yes. Just like in Hockey the Goalkeeper is the secret weapon in modern defensive football IMO....Ale
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    Post by Dwarf Mon Dec 03, 2007 5:47 pm

    Money.

    Salary, enivitable job offer you'll get with a relatively large wage settlement from a midtable club, endorsements while your in the job and punditry in the mean time.

    That's assuming your only as good as Sven. The amount you'd get on top of that for being a Messiah wouldn't be half bad either.
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    Post by Brian2468 Mon Dec 03, 2007 5:51 pm

    Mourinho... Is in the papers again. Anyone like to guess what his team would look like for his first game with zero injuries.
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    Post by dont panic! Mon Dec 03, 2007 6:45 pm

    Brian2468 wrote:Mourinho... Is in the papers again. Anyone like to guess what his team would look like for his first game with zero injuries.

    --------------james---------------
    richards---terry---carragher---cole
    ------------hargreaves-------------
    gerrard------lampard----------cole
    ------rooney------------------------
    ---------------------owen-----------

    subs...

    ferdinand
    ashton
    bentley
    lennon
    crouch

    but..theres a lot of young players coming through just now so he may take a huge swipe and start to give players like young...agbonlahor...walcott...huddlestone etc a chance...they couldnt do any worse..
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    Post by Tom Mon Dec 03, 2007 6:51 pm

    Mourinho wouldnt play owen, he needs two wingers as well. 4-5-1.
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    Post by EM Seleção e Selecção Mon Dec 03, 2007 6:53 pm

    Wishful thinking Whistle
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    Post by dont panic! Mon Dec 03, 2007 6:56 pm

    ballackthechristmasfatty wrote:Mourinho wouldnt play owen, he needs two wingers as well. 4-5-1.

    drogba isnt english...and crouch..owen..rooney...all cant play that system..

    maybe ashton can...
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    Post by EM Seleção e Selecção Mon Dec 03, 2007 6:57 pm

    Does it matter? Jose Mourinho won't coach your national team so all this talk is nonsense Wink
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    Post by dont panic! Mon Dec 03, 2007 6:59 pm

    EMPortuguese wrote:Does it matter? Jose Mourinho won't coach your national team so all this talk is nonsense Wink

    maybe not...would be guaranteed a good few years though...with his after game interviews..even in defeat we'd have something to laugh about...
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    Post by Brian2468 Mon Dec 03, 2007 7:08 pm

    Mourinho does not have a Drogba to play 4-5-1 plus what do you think he would do with Rooney? I feel he may try out a 4-3-3 and utilize his pace more.....
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    Post by dont panic! Mon Dec 03, 2007 7:26 pm

    Brian2468 wrote:Mourinho does not have a Drogba to play 4-5-1 plus what do you think he would do with Rooney? I feel he may try out a 4-3-3 and utilize his pace more.....

    then he needs to work his tactical magic on those voids of tactical ability we seem to have in our team...

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