Negroid managers

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/gossip_and_transfers/7291192.stm

Chairman and owners of English football clubs have been warned they
risk being branded "a bunch of racists" if they do not take immediate
action to address the fact that there are only two black managers out
of all 92 league clubs. (Daily Telegraph)

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As I've pointed out so many times before (indeed, whenever some ignorant black pundit like Garth Crooks or white liberal journo brings this up), this is actually more or less proportion given the proportion of Black British people.

The vast, vast, vast majority of Black Footballers in this country are foreign so we can have no expectation that they will want to become managers in this country after their playing careers are over.

It has nothing to do with racism, except in the minds of those who want to see half of all TV presenters coming from about 15% of the population...

However, according to Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom#Migration_and_ethnicity

85.7% of the UK population is White British
2.0% is Black
1.2% is White Irish

Irish people are clearly overrepresented in football management.

The answer is simple - Roy Keane should be immediately sacked and deported.

Roger Hunt wrote:However, according to Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom#Migration_and_ethnicity

85.7% of the UK population is White British
2.0% is Black
1.2% is White Irish

Irish people are clearly overrepresented in football management.

The answer is simple - Roy Keane should be immediately sacked and deported.

Those figures are from the last census (I think) which was in 2001, so they may be out of date. But working with them for the moment, 2% of 92 managers is 1.84 managers, which means that blacks are actually OVER represented in football management. Yet people are calling this OVER representation the result of RACISM against them?

Some people really are stupid.

I'll just point out that this is a quote from the Torygraph.

Roger Hunt wrote:I'll just point out that this is a quote from the Torygraph.

Sure, it isn't a great source. But the BBC ran the same story about a year ago (and I pointed out the same thing back then), and it does the rounds across the gamut of liberal conservative media we have quite regularly.

Would you work for a black manager

Clergymen Superstains wrote:Would you work for a black manager

Probably not, because there aren't that many of them, because there aren't that many of them...

Somewhere in this thread I'm just going to have to mention Gullit and accompany it with a giggle....

....Gullit !

*giggle*

Yoda wrote:
It has nothing to do with racism, except in the minds of those who want to see half of all TV presenters coming from about 15% of the population...

I hear you saints, but bear in mind that a significantly higher percentage of black people are involved in the football industry as a whole.

Think we've had this argument before. (It got a bit nasty between Puro & yourself) Let me bump the topic...

A Tribe Called TS™ wrote:

Yoda wrote:
It has nothing to do with racism, except in the minds of those who want to see half of all TV presenters coming from about 15% of the population...

I hear you saints, but bear in mind that a significantly higher percentage of black people are involved in the football industry as a whole.

Of course.

Think we've had this argument before. (It got a bit nasty between Puro & yourself) Let me bump the topic...

Bump away. A chance to reminisce about past victories over Puro is always welcome.

A Tribe Called TS wrote:

Yoda wrote:
It has nothing to do with racism, except in the minds of those who want to see half of all TV presenters coming from about 15% of the population...

I hear you saints, but bear in mind that a significantly higher percentage of black people are involved in the football industry as a whole.

Think we've had this argument before. (It got a bit nasty between Puro & yourself) Let me bump the topic...

So!! Ever watched the NBA? Its full of nig..black people. Yes a few of the coaches are black, but not the majority. Not even to begin with them owners.!

Blacks

How come nobody has noticed that the percentages don't add up to 100 anyway? What is the rest of the Ethnic breakdown? These figures can be made to prove whatever you want. For example Asians are under-represented in management. Is that due to racism, or because there is not sufficient interest or experience in Asian community for it.

Secondly, this debate is a bit early. The last generation of black players are only breaking into coaching now. This will take time, but it is some sort of progress that racism in football in the UK has moved off the pitch. People like Paul Davis, Noel Blake, Chris Ramsey and other black players are still involved in the game as coaches.

Black players will have to do their coaching badges like anyone else, so it will take time to come through. If this is still an issue five years from now I will be worried, but not yet.

Also look to this being the next issue of racism in Europe once it moves off the pitch.

I'd say 10 years is more like it.

I'd also say of greater concern is the generally poor quality of English managers, regardless of race.

EMP wrote:
Secondly, this debate is a bit early. The last generation of black players are only breaking into coaching now.

Indeed, the turning point was when black players became accepted as professional football players (apparently that's not that long ago ). Now they'll progress into management naturally like most managers come from former professional football players.

Clergymen Superstains wrote:

A Tribe Called TS wrote:

Yoda wrote:
It has nothing to do with racism, except in the minds of those who want to see half of all TV presenters coming from about 15% of the population...

I hear you saints, but bear in mind that a significantly higher percentage of black people are involved in the football industry as a whole.

Think we've had this argument before. (It got a bit nasty between Puro & yourself) Let me bump the topic...

So!! Ever watched the NBA? Its full of nig..black people. Yes a few of the coaches are black, but not the majority. Not even to begin with them owners.!

Blacks

There's loads of Black Coaches in the NBA

And there's a lot more white players than people think - Steve Nash, Pau Gasol, Peja Stojakovic, Dirk Nowitzki are all dominant players for exzample, that's without mentioning very good ones like Kirk Heinrich, Andrei Kirilenko.

NBA's a lot more than just a black man's thing nowadays.

By all means keep the black players. They are after all, better designed to running and doing the donkey work than white players. But as thinkers and tacticians, most of them couldn't cut it in this league imo.

I'm not generally one to be arguing for systemic racism on a topic like this but: Robson, Hughes, Keane, Bruce... Paul Ince. Why does the latter (have to) start with Macclesfield and MK Dons whereas the others walk into top jobs at top clubs?

Robson started at Boro??, was a ex-player at the time made some sense ..

Hughes was the Welsh manager so was already high profile enough

Keane was hired by his ex-team mate Quinn, joined when Sunderland were struggling in the Championship.

Steve Bruce started at Sheffield United .. Gradually gained himself a profile

Ince, I’m not sure but was he approached by a Premiership team last year?

All Legends

Allez les rouges wrote:I'm not generally one to be arguing for systemic racism on a topic like this but: Robson, Hughes, Keane, Bruce... Paul Ince. Why does the latter (have to) start with Macclesfield and MK Dons whereas the others walk into top jobs at top clubs?

Interesting point Allez. Probably because Ince was a renowned c*nt, and therefore didnt network enough chairmen as a player.

Although that does bring up the conundrum of Roy Keane, who lets face it, is and was an enormous ragin c*nt

Senor Woody wrote:

Allez les rouges wrote:I'm not generally one to be arguing for systemic racism on a topic like this but: Robson, Hughes, Keane, Bruce... Paul Ince. Why does the latter (have to) start with Macclesfield and MK Dons whereas the others walk into top jobs at top clubs?

Interesting point Allez. Probably because Ince was a renowned c*nt, and therefore didnt network enough chairmen as a player.

Although that does bring up the conundrum of Roy Keane, who lets face it, is and was an enormous ragin c*nt

did the others get their jobs as they had ferguson as a reference?

110% wrote:

Senor Woody wrote:

Allez les rouges wrote:I'm not generally one to be arguing for systemic racism on a topic like this but: Robson, Hughes, Keane, Bruce... Paul Ince. Why does the latter (have to) start with Macclesfield and MK Dons whereas the others walk into top jobs at top clubs?

Interesting point Allez. Probably because Ince was a renowned c*nt, and therefore didnt network enough chairmen as a player.

Although that does bring up the conundrum of Roy Keane, who lets face it, is and was an enormous ragin c*nt

did the others get their jobs as they had ferguson as a reference?

I doubt it somewhat. When the ones mentioned went into managerial SAF commenting to the chairman about them as players shouldn’t suffice them getting the job. None of them even started at what we can call a ‘high profile’ job maybe Hughes being a exception coaching his national team and Robson coaching one of his former clubs in the Premiership similar to Kenny Dalgleish going on to coach Liverpool as player/manager.

Well, it's all relative; you're talking second-division sides at worst as compared to teams at the very bottom of the league, i.e. the fourth division.

I'm no PC merchant but you can't help thinking that the almost universally white chairmen are more comfortable with Bruce, Keane or whoever than, say, Ince. It never worked out for John Barnes either, one of the few black managers to have had a job at a high-profile club recently.

And as Bernd points out Keane is a bigger c**t than anyone else alive, so that can't be t'only factor...

Well i thought it was obvious, there are less black managers, because blacks are all thick fucks?

Bruce had to manage the likes of Huddersfield and Wigan first anyway...

MK Dons are a big club for the division...should really be in the Championship.

Football Genius wrote:Well i thought it was obvious, there are less black managers, because blacks are all thick fucks?

Most blacks I know couldn't direct a seagull to the coast. How the hell could they manage a Premiership/football league club successfully?

TS is a cool black. So are the others on here. It's just a shame they're so badly stereotyped.

Wth Garth Crooks' insightfull and poignant analysis why wouldn't chairmen want to trust black men with millions of pounds. As a side issue how come women in coaching has never been brought up as a topic.

S4P, you're one of the good blacks too .

PSV Eindhoven wrote:S4P, you're one of the good blacks too .

I'm one of the good guys. I'm more of a Dream Bar than a Twix. You on the other hand, are as black as Newgate's Knocker.

S4P wrote:

PSV Eindhoven wrote:S4P, you're one of the good blacks too .

I'm one of the good guys. I'm more of a Dream Bar than a Twix. You on the other hand, are as black as Newgate's Knocker.

You're a dream bar dipped in milk chocolate. You're like the opposite version of Michael Jackson...

Big Dunc had it right.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rcXdZpdJ6I