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    Post by DS Thu Jan 17, 2008 5:31 pm

    Aston Villa are stepping up their attempts to
    sign unwanted Tottenham striker Jermain Defoe according to sources
    close to the midlands club.
    Reports that Defoe held talks with Martin O'Neill on Wednesday
    have been refuted, with the Villa manager watching the youth team in
    action in their FA Youth Cup clash at Colchester.
    But the England player is understood to have held talks with Villa representatives during the past 24 hours.
    O'Neill has been a long-time admirer of Defoe, who has been told he is surplus to requirements by Spurs boss Juande Ramos.
    O'Neill, who was linked with a move for Defoe last summer, is
    keen to bolster his strike force with Luke Moore having refused a new
    contract.
    Defoe also falls into the category of the kind of player
    O'Neill has slowly but surely built his squad on - young and with
    plenty still to prove.
    Villa are maintaining their normal policy of not commenting
    publicly on any transfer dealings until a player has signed on the
    dotted line.
    But a source said: "Defoe was in the midlands area on Wednesday and today for talks with Villa representatives."
    Defoe is likely to cost in the region of £10-12million should a move to Villa get the green light from club and player.
    The ex-West Ham player has been a consistent marksman throughout
    his career but has gradually slipped down the pecking order at White
    Hart Lane.
    Defoe would have no problem fitting in at Villa as he already
    knows the likes of Scott Carson, Ashley Young and Gareth Barry from his
    time on England duty.
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    Post by Kimbo Thu Jan 17, 2008 5:34 pm

    Dark Savante wrote:
    Defoe is likely to cost in the region of £10-12million.

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    Post by DS Thu Jan 17, 2008 5:35 pm

    Transfer hint , go continental.
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    Post by StevieG Thu Jan 17, 2008 5:50 pm

    Kimbo wrote:
    Dark Savante wrote:
    Defoe is likely to cost in the region of £10-12million.

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    no wonder he aint left yet. whos going to pay that sort of money for defoe Neutral
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    Post by debaser Thu Jan 17, 2008 6:52 pm

    StevieG wrote:
    Kimbo wrote:
    Dark Savante wrote:
    Defoe is likely to cost in the region of £10-12million.

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    no wonder he aint left yet. whos going to pay that sort of money for defoe Neutral
    the same kind of teams who pay £16m for bent, £7m for pennant, £6m for nugent, £5m+ for walcott, £16m for carrick, £8m for johnson, £21m for wrightphillips, £8m for reocoker, £6m for dyer, £6m for alan smith, etc.
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    Post by Deano Thu Jan 17, 2008 9:38 pm

    Curbishley get in there FFS.
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    Post by Calidad Fri Jan 18, 2008 1:11 pm

    Defoe's incredibly average; though that still makes him better than Moore.

    Though I wouldn't start him over Gabby or Carew, and £10m is a lot for Villa to spend (or any team for that matter) on a squad player/
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    Post by Football Genius Fri Jan 18, 2008 4:18 pm

    Calidad wrote:Defoe's incredibly average; though that still makes him better than Moore.

    Though I wouldn't start him over Gabby or Carew, and £10m is a lot for Villa to spend (or any team for that matter) on a squad player/

    Defoe has a super goal scoring record at all levels and clubs hes been at, what a ridiculous thing to say.... Kevin Davies is average, Defoe is goalscorer with a record of 1 in 2 scratch
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    Post by L.r.d Fri Jan 18, 2008 4:34 pm

    Well if he was an Argentine maybe he would be borderline wc
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    Post by Jago Fri Jan 18, 2008 4:59 pm

    I'm unsure about Defoe, I don't doubt his class, I'm unsure about HIM and how he would fit into our team.

    I'm also a bit worried about us spending £10m on someone who isn't a right back or right winger...
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    Post by Football Genius Fri Jan 18, 2008 5:01 pm

    Jago wrote:I'm unsure about Defoe, I don't doubt his class, I'm unsure about HIM and how he would fit into our team.

    I'm also a bit worried about us spending £10m on someone who isn't a right back or right winger...

    Thats fair enough, i think Gabby is big enough to play more as a target man that can be played off, of course he would compliment Carew perfectly.

    At least its a welcoming problem, 'which two of the three play'

    Fair do's on the second comment Ale
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    Post by Calidad Fri Jan 18, 2008 5:03 pm

    Football Genius wrote:
    Calidad wrote:Defoe's incredibly average; though that still makes him better than Moore.

    Though I wouldn't start him over Gabby or Carew, and £10m is a lot for Villa to spend (or any team for that matter) on a squad player/

    Defoe has a super goal scoring record at all levels and clubs hes been at, what a ridiculous thing to say.... Kevin Davies is average, Defoe is goalscorer with a record of 1 in 2 scratch

    West Ham United 93 (29)
    Bournemouth 29 (18)
    Tottenham Hotspur 137 (43)
    England 26 (3)

    Doesn't look like 1 in 2 for me. scratch

    Hell, his career average isn't even 1 in 3. Only with Borunemouth has he ever got 1 in 2, and to be fair, I'm sure he'd excel at that level. If both of you are such big fans, I'm sure you're eager for your respective clubs to go in for him?
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    Post by Football Genius Fri Jan 18, 2008 5:11 pm

    Calidad wrote:
    Football Genius wrote:
    Calidad wrote:Defoe's incredibly average; though that still makes him better than Moore.

    Though I wouldn't start him over Gabby or Carew, and £10m is a lot for Villa to spend (or any team for that matter) on a squad player/

    Defoe has a super goal scoring record at all levels and clubs hes been at, what a ridiculous thing to say.... Kevin Davies is average, Defoe is goalscorer with a record of 1 in 2 scratch

    West Ham United 93 (29)
    Bournemouth 29 (18)
    Tottenham Hotspur 137 (43)
    England 26 (3)

    Doesn't look like 1 in 2 for me. scratch

    Hell, his career average isn't even 1 in 3. Only with Borunemouth has he ever got 1 in 2, and to be fair, I'm sure he'd excel at that level. If both of you are such big fans, I'm sure you're eager for your respective clubs to go in for him?

    Try posting his starts vs goals, as opposed to including 10minute cameos as games hes played in, that will get you a better indicator Ale

    Not particularly but i think he is a proven goal scorer, to refer to him as average is way off the mark ok
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    Post by Calidad Fri Jan 18, 2008 5:16 pm

    Football Genius wrote:
    Calidad wrote:
    Football Genius wrote:
    Calidad wrote:Defoe's incredibly average; though that still makes him better than Moore.

    Though I wouldn't start him over Gabby or Carew, and £10m is a lot for Villa to spend (or any team for that matter) on a squad player/

    Defoe has a super goal scoring record at all levels and clubs hes been at, what a ridiculous thing to say.... Kevin Davies is average, Defoe is goalscorer with a record of 1 in 2 scratch

    West Ham United 93 (29)
    Bournemouth 29 (18)
    Tottenham Hotspur 137 (43)
    England 26 (3)

    Doesn't look like 1 in 2 for me. scratch

    Hell, his career average isn't even 1 in 3. Only with Borunemouth has he ever got 1 in 2, and to be fair, I'm sure he'd excel at that level. If both of you are such big fans, I'm sure you're eager for your respective clubs to go in for him?

    Try posting his starts vs goals, as opposed to including 10minute cameos as games hes played in, that will get you a better indicator Ale

    Not particularly but i think he is a proven goal scorer, to refer to him as average is way off the mark ok

    I don't know where to find that info, and can't be assed either. His stats are from Wiki, and like everyone elses', uses starts as well as substitute appearances. It's hardly unfair is it?

    Anyway goals aren't the only thing that should be considered when judging a striker. I just don't rate him, never have done. He's neither better than Gabby or Carew, and £10m is about double what they should be paying for him. Would be much better of with someone like Ashton.
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    Post by Football Genius Fri Jan 18, 2008 5:30 pm

    Overall career totals
    Apps As sub Goals Yellow Red
    Total (Club) 310 (100) 124 34 3
    League 260 (84) 90 26 3
    FA Cup 18 (5) 12 1 0
    League Cup 21 (5) 16 4 0
    European/Others 11 (6) 6 3 0

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    International career totals
    Apps As sub Goals Yellow Red
    England 26 (19) 3 0 0
    England U21 23 (6) 7 2 0

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    Current club totals
    Apps As sub Goals Yellow Red
    Total (Club) 174 (65) 64 20 0
    League 138 (51) 43 14 0
    FA Cup 12 (4) 5 0 0
    League Cup 14 (4) 10 3 0
    European/Others 10 (6) 6 3 0

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    This season
    Apps As sub Goals Yellow Red
    Total (Club) 28 (21) 8 5 0
    League 18 (16) 4 3 0
    FA Cup 1 (0) 0 0 0
    League Cup 4 (2) 1 0 0
    European/Others 5 (3) 3 2 0


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    Tottenham Hotspur
    Apps As sub Goals Yellow Red
    Total (Club) 28 (21) 8 5 0
    League 18 (16) 4 3 0
    FA Cup 1 (0) 0 0 0
    League Cup 4 (2) 1 0 0
    European/Others 5 (3) 3 2 0
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    Post by Zack Fri Jan 18, 2008 5:34 pm

    Defoe's quality. Really is. I for one will be absolutely gutted to see him go. You watch him play (when he starts) and he oozes talent. He just needs a run of games and confidence...

    He is perhaps the most natural finisher in england. Really, give him a run of games, he WILL score you goals.

    I for one will gurentee you he will be a sucess when/if he leaves...
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    Post by Arnaud loves Catherine Fri Jan 18, 2008 5:39 pm

    I know Defoe can do a decent job for a team of middle table but he is massivelly overated.He isn't good enough to be in the starting XI of England and England isn't good enough to qualify for the euro...

    Why the hell he thinks he has to start for Spurs ? what has he done for that ? he doesn't score enough and he seems to prefer playing for a small team for a big salary rather to play for a good team (Spurs) with "only" a good salary.

    Ramos took the right decision.It's clear Spurs lost some money on him but it's not as if his fee was around £10m is it ??? at best a £3m player <Ale>
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    Post by Football Genius Fri Jan 18, 2008 5:51 pm

    Arnaud loves Catherine wrote:I know Defoe can do a decent job for a team of middle table but he is massivelly overated.He isn't good enough to be in the starting XI of England and England isn't good enough to qualify for the euro...

    Why the hell he thinks he has to start for Spurs ? what has he done for that ? he doesn't score enough and he seems to prefer playing for a small team for a big salary rather to play for a good team (Spurs) with "only" a good salary.

    Ramos took the right decision.It's clear Spurs lost some money on him but it's not as if his fee was around £10m is it ??? at best a £3m player <Ale>

    lol!
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    Post by Deano Fri Jan 18, 2008 5:53 pm

    Zack Thfc wrote:Defoe's quality. Really is.

    Ale Enough said tbh...
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    Post by L r dd Mon Aug 24, 2009 4:45 pm

    Calidad wrote:Defoe's incredibly average; though that still makes him better than Moore.

    Though I wouldn't start him over Gabby or Carew, and £10m is a lot for Villa to spend (or any team for that matter) on a squad player/

    Ale Average indeed Biggrin
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    Post by COTR Mon Aug 24, 2009 5:23 pm

    Arnaud loves Catherine wrote: at best a £3m player <Ale>

    Good old Arnaud Biggrin

    His stupidity is missed
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    Post by L r dd Mon Aug 24, 2009 5:31 pm

    COTR #6 wrote:
    Arnaud loves Catherine wrote: at best a £3m player <Ale>

    Good old Arnaud Biggrin

    His stupidity is missed

    Goater would be very happy with him. http://europeanboard.ephpbb.com/english-football-f3/defoe-to-city-t10600.htm?highlight
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    Post by Isco Benny Mon Aug 24, 2009 5:34 pm

    It was never an issue of whether Defoe was good enough talent wise to become a success-

    his main issues were his physical strength (prior to this season he was too easy to knock off the ball) and attitude (flash git, sometimes plays with his head down and doesn't pass, always going for goal)

    This season he continues to be a flash prick off the field (Reality TV star WAG number 376 hanging off his arm), but appears to have learnt to be far less selfish on the pitch and has held up the play well using his strength and looked to pass and be involved in build ups more than he ever did in the past.

    Essentially though, he has the qualities to be an excellent player. His ability to to turn at pace on the ball (from back to goal to head on) is one of his best and very useful for a striker trying to create space away from defenders.
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    Post by L r dd Mon Aug 24, 2009 5:44 pm

    Spider Crouch wrote:It was never an issue of whether Defoe was good enough talent wise to become a success-

    his main issues were his physical strength (prior to this season he was too easy to knock off the ball) and attitude (flash git, sometimes plays with his head down and doesn't pass, always going for goal)

    This season he continues to be a flash prick off the field (Reality TV star WAG number 376 hanging off his arm),

    Ale what i tried to tell TS but he wasnt having any of it.

    Defoe can be a big player for England deffo one of the best finishers in England. I'd have him at Man Utd as i would Lennon and Palacios so while Tottenham have top 4 quality they can become top 4 themselves which is why i predicted them to finish so high this season. But he's clearly a selfish fuck.
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    Post by Allez les rouges Mon Aug 24, 2009 5:45 pm

    Which one is he banging at the mo Bernd? Is it that Welsh bird off BB?

    I was having a concersation with a mate about which one was Chanelle and which Chantelle and which one he shagged, we got well confused Embarassed
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    Post by Isco Benny Mon Aug 24, 2009 5:57 pm

    L r dd wrote:
    Spider Crouch wrote:It was never an issue of whether Defoe was good enough talent wise to become a success-

    his main issues were his physical strength (prior to this season he was too easy to knock off the ball) and attitude (flash git, sometimes plays with his head down and doesn't pass, always going for goal)

    This season he continues to be a flash prick off the field (Reality TV star WAG number 376 hanging off his arm),

    Ale what i tried to tell TS but he wasnt having any of it.

    Defoe can be a big player for England deffo one of the best finishers in England. I'd have him at Man Utd as i would Lennon and Palacios so while Tottenham have top 4 quality they can become top 4 themselves which is why i predicted them to finish so high this season. But he's clearly a selfish fuck.

    To be fair to Defoe, when he wasn't being picked to play at Spurs he never complained. Perhaps this is what TS meant, but definitely off the field it gets quite tiresome opening the paper and seeing yet another photo of Jammin blinged up and swanning out of a nightclub with another pointless reality TV parasite in tow.

    Allez - he's poking the Welsh one from BB a few years ago (last year?). As for Chantelle and Chanelle - as I recall from from my ex flatmate's endless supply of Zoo magazines he kept in the bathroom, Chanelle is the one who thinks she's Posh Spice and Chantelle is the one who was married to the little guy from the ordinary Boys.

    Pretty sure Defoe has nailed both of them. Probably at the same time. And filmed it. Because he's a fool and lives up to the stereotype of the dumb ass bling footballer.
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    Post by Khadrim Mon Aug 24, 2009 6:06 pm

    Apart from scoring a few more goals (and he will stop when he goes off form) what does Defoe do that Bent didn't.

    This isn't a wind-up, just Defoe never struck me as being all that. When on form he is an excellent finsher but beyond that ?
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    Post by christmasborocooper Mon Aug 24, 2009 6:12 pm

    He's a bit more "nippy" than Bent..better with the ball at his feet I would say.
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    Post by Allez les rouges Mon Aug 24, 2009 6:13 pm

    Ah yes Bernd, Chanelle is the one fake-dating the Jewish guy Ziggy a couple of years back. I was at the airport and managed to get a photo of one of the celeb magazines, Heat, Now, whatever, with the headline "Ziggy: Why I've dumped Chanelle" and another right next to it with the main story "Chanelle: Why I've dumped Ziggy". Awesome Ale

    (alas I lost the photo when my phone crashed Sad )
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    Post by Deluded F*ck™ Mon Aug 24, 2009 6:14 pm

    Khadrim wrote:Apart from scoring a few more goals (and he will stop when he goes off form) what does Defoe do that Bent didn't.

    This isn't a wind-up, just Defoe never struck me as being all that. When on form he is an excellent finsher but beyond that ?

    He has great technique (Bent has the touch of a rapist), dribbling skills (Bent rarely takes on anybody despite his pace), he has good vision, but he's now matured as a footballer so he won't be selfish and just shoot on sight, and he can take part in team moves (Bent can't link the play at all).

    Go to the first 2 MOTD videos against Hull & Liverpool and you'll see him link the play and creating chances.

    We're so much better without Bent fucking up anything that he got outside of the area/not facing the goal.

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