How many games or time should Martin Taylor be banned for?

L r d wrote:

Luis wrote:I don't think you can wipe those sorts of tackles out to be honest, because it's a sport and it's so quick and you are getting more and more skillfull, tricky players that you can't anticipate what they'll do next then there's always going to be one or two acidental tackles like this, I know it's not nice to hear but that's the reality

But was it accidental? You cannot prove it was or wasnt. From what i saw Eduardo knocked the ball past him, and he then raised his foot studs showing into Eduardo. I don't think he meant to injure but i think he meant to foul him. If the law in the country is different depending on what happens to the person why can that not be the law in football? maybe players would be less likely to make such horror tackles.....

Luis wrote:

L r d wrote:

Luis wrote:I don't think you can wipe those sorts of tackles out to be honest, because it's a sport and it's so quick and you are getting more and more skillfull, tricky players that you can't anticipate what they'll do next then there's always going to be one or two acidental tackles like this, I know it's not nice to hear but that's the reality

But was it accidental? You cannot prove it was or wasnt. From what i saw Eduardo knocked the ball past him, and he then raised his foot studs showing into Eduardo. I don't think he meant to injure but i think he meant to foul him. If the law in the country is different depending on what happens to the person why can that not be the law in football? maybe players would be less likely to make such horror tackles.....

Is any foul accidental? There are football players who show intent and those who don't and as far as I know Martin Taylor isn't one of these, Barton, Eboue and Essien on the other hand...

Roger Hunt wrote:

The Voice of Reason wrote: If we're handing out a 6 game ban for this one (and maybe we should, something in that region anyway) then this should be the default punishment for all such dangerous tackles, regardless of their consequences.

I have to say I disagree with this. Intent is much more difficult to prove than injury.

The fact is that 99 times out of a hundred the tackle would have been nasty but not caused a serious injury. It seems reasonable to me that in the few cases where it is serious, the penalty is equally increased.

L r d wrote:
If this happenend in the cl game he would be banned for at least 8 games. I don't see how we're gonna stop tackles like this if when they do occur nothing happens.

And then when they do cause serious injury it's just a 3 game ban and you have idiots like Stephen Kelly saying it wasnt even a red card

Luis wrote:Like I said, if he should be banned for a long time then so should a lot of players, Eboue could of taken someone's groin off earlier on i the season, didn't even get a card, we can't have one rule for one and a different rule for someone else, I say in the summer bring new rules into force but you can't change it half way through a season

The Voice of Reason wrote:

L r d wrote:
If this happenend in the cl game he would be banned for at least 8 games. I don't see how we're gonna stop tackles like this if when they do occur nothing happens.

I don't see how we're gonna stop tackles like this by making a massive issue out of one of them and ignoring the rest that were equally bad if not worse but didn't result in a dreadful injury.

If you're in favour of a 10 match ban for anyone who tackles like this, regardless of the consequences, then I'm with you. But if you want to single out one person in the name of a matter of principle then, quite frankly, I can only conclude that you've never looked at the history of crime and punishment.

Luis wrote:
Is any foul accidental?

The Voice of Reason wrote:your tackle is dangerous

L r d wrote:he followed through

COTR wrote:it's all about consistency

L r d wrote:
Well i just go by my own mentallity. If the punishment for stealing is to cut my hands off i aint stealing. If it's a caution then why not?

This one is not like the others, it has broken someone elses leg.

Maybe he is unlucky but thats just how it is. He is now the guy who should get a big ban. And in future similar cases should result in a similar ban.

I Hate Tottenham wrote:1. to the tune of is it a monster...

"What's that coming out of his leg is it his ankle, is it his ankle"

I Hate Tottenham wrote:1. to the tune of is it a monster...

"What's that coming out of his leg is it his ankle, is it his ankle"

2. "Eduardo Oooooohh Eduardo Ooooohhh, he had some silky skills, but now he's Heather Mills. Eduardo Oooohhhh"

Were songs coming from the oh so brilliant T*ttenham fans yesterday...

The Voice of Reason wrote:

I Hate Tottenham wrote:1. to the tune of is it a monster...

"What's that coming out of his leg is it his ankle, is it his ankle"

No doubt some thin skinned fans of a certain North London club who are looking for the Brazilian born Croat to be canonised due to some dickhead kicking him in the leg will accuse me of being sadistic for saying so, but I think this is incredibly funny.

Vidal Sassoon wrote:

The Voice of Reason wrote:

I Hate Tottenham wrote:1. to the tune of is it a monster...

"What's that coming out of his leg is it his ankle, is it his ankle"

No doubt some thin skinned fans of a certain North London club who are looking for the Brazilian born Croat to be canonised due to some dickhead kicking him in the leg will accuse me of being sadistic for saying so, but I think this is incredibly funny.

incredibly funny?

Vidal Sassoon wrote:incredible

A Tribe Called TS wrote:
Listen to the commentary from Townsend from this Lampard one on Chimbonda:



In this case Lampard should also receive the same punishment as Taylor, because even if Chimbonda wasn't seriously injured, we all know that a tenth of a second either way, it could be so much worse. but would he get it because of the backers he has in the pundit & media circles ?

It's a hard one to judge.

Pierre Littbarski wrote:

A Tribe Called TS wrote:
Listen to the commentary from Townsend from this Lampard one on Chimbonda:



In this case Lampard should also receive the same punishment as Taylor, because even if Chimbonda wasn't seriously injured, we all know that a tenth of a second either way, it could be so much worse. but would he get it because of the backers he has in the pundit & media circles ?

It's a hard one to judge.

Please tell me the fat c**t got booked for that ?

He did one yesterday as well.

For the record Martin Taylor has 6 bookings and 2 red cards in a 9 year career.

A booking every 39 games and a red card every 4.5 years is pretty good going for a slow centre back

A Tribe Called TS wrote:

Pierre Littbarski wrote:

A Tribe Called TS wrote:
Listen to the commentary from Townsend from this Lampard one on Chimbonda:



In this case Lampard should also receive the same punishment as Taylor, because even if Chimbonda wasn't seriously injured, we all know that a tenth of a second either way, it could be so much worse. but would he get it because of the backers he has in the pundit & media circles ?

It's a hard one to judge.

Please tell me the fat c**t got booked for that ?

He did one yesterday as well.

For the record Martin Taylor has 6 bookings and 2 red cards in a 9 year career.

A booking every 39 games and a red card every 4.5 years is pretty good going for a slow centre back

It went unpunished If I remember right.

You mentioned yesterday - Do you mean the one before Berbatov just before half-time ?

Torrente wrote:I think that Taylor is a neanderthal who should be banned for at least 3 months. I can't believe so many people agree that it was accidental. Just think about it for a second. If he really went for the ball then why were his studs so high when he hit Eduardo? They were almost at knee height. If he was really going for the ball then he would have hit Eduardo at a lower part of his leg.

Cesc wrote:He simply can't get the same punishment as say Jeremie Aliadiere, who will be banned for three games for simply slapping an opponent. There is something seriously wrong with the system if that does happen. It would also set a dangerous precedent for the future.

I don't think he is the sort of player that would set out to seriously hurt a fellow professional, but that tackle was was exceptionally negligent. Banning him for the duration for Eduardo's injury is very extreme. I would say 5-8 games would be acceptable.

shazlx wrote:

I Hate Tottenham wrote:1. to the tune of is it a monster...

"What's that coming out of his leg is it his ankle, is it his ankle"

2. "Eduardo Oooooohh Eduardo Ooooohhh, he had some silky skills, but now he's Heather Mills. Eduardo Oooohhhh"

Were songs coming from the oh so brilliant T*ttenham fans yesterday...