HomeTweedle wrote:How $h!t are Bayern!
...and Barca and Madrid.
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...and Barca and Madrid.
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Really?? How?? I think its Sporting 60%26-Otto-19 wrote:Zenit 90%
PSV 51%
Rangers 55%
Bayern 70%
Also PSV with 60% after that away goal. Fiorentina were $h!t without Donadel, no bite. And I would only put Bayern with a 55% chance after that away goal. Zenit probably 99%.
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Luso wrote:L r d wrote:Not a horrible result for Rangers. They will play ultra defensive in Portugal and it will be difficult for Sporting to score. Nick the first goal on a corner or something and i'd fancy them from there.
Some people say Rangers have been so lucky this season, when they go to Portugal they probably will come back with Madeline McCann
Thanks Getafe on costing me 300 quid c**ts!
Bet on Rangers and you'll lose another 300...
The whole league plays defensive in Alvalade...it'll be nothing new.
Defensive with big strong players everywhere? or latin defensive? Seriously unless Bolton was a one off then Liedson on his own upfront will find it very difficult and i cant see Sporting finding it easy at all to break 11 men down.
I might bet on them to go through not to win over there
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Khadrim wrote:Zenit were really really good. Pretty much certain to go through as Leverkusen have to score 4 in St Petersburg.
I don't think PSV can play any better (though I am no dutch football follower so correct me if I am mistaken) whilst I have seen Fiorentina play much better. So I can see Fiorentina win by nicking a goal in Eindhoven.
I don't rate Sporting but Rangers haven't been too good away so this I think will go to penalties. With Rangers to go through
Munich-Getafe, don't really know enough about Getafe but I'll say Bayern just to pick one.
What is it about Sporting you don't rate? You know more about them than you do Getafe?
Sporting at home have played well pretty much all season, and against better sides than Rangers...
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L r d wrote:Luso wrote:L r d wrote:Not a horrible result for Rangers. They will play ultra defensive in Portugal and it will be difficult for Sporting to score. Nick the first goal on a corner or something and i'd fancy them from there.
Some people say Rangers have been so lucky this season, when they go to Portugal they probably will come back with Madeline McCann
Thanks Getafe on costing me 300 quid c**ts!
Bet on Rangers and you'll lose another 300...
The whole league plays defensive in Alvalade...it'll be nothing new.
Defensive with big strong players everywhere? or latin defensive? Seriously unless Bolton was a one off then Liedson on his own upfront will find it very difficult and i cant see Sporting finding it easy at all to break 11 men down.
I might bet on them to go through not to win over there
Naturally if we're a latin side we play against latin defenses. That said there are some industrious teams within Portugal and neither Porto (who lost 2-nil) nor Benfica (1-1) had too much fun in the Alvalade this year.
Roma was outplayed and Manchester had a huge help in VDS who kept them in the game this season...
We haven't had a fit team for most of the season, the Bolton match was no acception. We created enough chances in Glasgow today to win, we had good chances from corners and Grimi/Izmailov/Liedson (should've scored) could've rapped this tie up for us tonight.
I'm not saying Rangers can't get through, they still can with luck, but if things run 'normally' Sporting will go through. Rangers can defend all they want, but I seriously doubt they'll keep a clean sheet...and once that isn't possible they'll have to score.
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All those are pretty attacking teams though thats why i wouldn't use them examples. Bolton match will be similar to how i think the Rangers game will go. Except Rangers can defend better than Bolton and play a little better also. But they wont be aiming to play. Long free kicks, corners and then 11 behind the ball. Sporting are favourites for sure but i don't think the man utd roma porto games mean much when Rangers are a completly different mindset.
I just imagine latin defenses a little smaller in size and not big lumps. And for a team like Sporting this is easier to break down if you are more skillful, but 11 big guys behind the ball when you don't really have a big man option makes it difficult.
I just imagine latin defenses a little smaller in size and not big lumps. And for a team like Sporting this is easier to break down if you are more skillful, but 11 big guys behind the ball when you don't really have a big man option makes it difficult.
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L r d wrote:All those are pretty attacking teams though thats why i wouldn't use them examples. Bolton match will be similar to how i think the Rangers game will go. Except Rangers can defend better than Bolton and play a little better also. But they wont be aiming to play. Long free kicks, corners and then 11 behind the ball. Sporting are favourites for sure but i don't think the man utd roma porto games mean much when Rangers are a completly different mindset.
I just imagine latin defenses a little smaller in size and not big lumps. And for a team like Sporting this is easier to break down if you are more skillful, but 11 big guys behind the ball when you don't really have a big man option makes it difficult.
Perhaps if we played balls through the air the big defense would be more of an obstacle, but we play the ball on the ground were being a big guy actually makes it harder to defend quick little forwards like Liedson/Yannick.
Our away form has been our major sour point of this season, but at home things are different. We've looked a diferent side on home turf, and with Rangers only wanting to defend our task will be less dificult as we shouldn't have to worry too much about defending ourselves.
I'll expect Sporting to scorea at least one goal, and hopefully we'll score first, forcing Rangers to open up or go out... if that's the case I'll expect our swift counter-attacks to get at us another.
This is football and of course anything can happen, but unlike what the Scotish commentators we're saying ("this is Sporting Lisbon, it's not like they have names that should worry you" - which only shows they don't have a clue of what they're talking about; they would've said the same had Nani, Ronaldo or Quaresma been on the pitch for us), Sporting does have some good (international) players and are very much a match for Rangers. I think Sporting have everything to put the Scots out at Alvalade.
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Good result for Sporting i think they have a good chance to advance now.
One thing i always fail to understand is why everytime portuguese teams play the 2 big scotish teams they think it will be a walk in the park, and then if they do not win or achieve the result they want call us cheaters, divers and so on. It is not as we have a hate history between both of us or something. I feel no rivalry towards them and never met any other portuguese that though that but it seems it is different from their part.
One thing i always fail to understand is why everytime portuguese teams play the 2 big scotish teams they think it will be a walk in the park, and then if they do not win or achieve the result they want call us cheaters, divers and so on. It is not as we have a hate history between both of us or something. I feel no rivalry towards them and never met any other portuguese that though that but it seems it is different from their part.
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L r d wrote:Not a horrible result for Rangers. They will play ultra defensive in Portugal and it will be difficult for Sporting to score. Nick the first goal on a corner or something and i'd fancy them from there.
Some people say Rangers have been so lucky this season, when they go to Portugal they probably will come back with Madeline McCann
Thanks Getafe on costing me 300 quid c**ts!
I agree. I think Walter Smith will be happy with this result. I still think Rangers can progress from this round. But so can Sporting.
We'll see.
Luso
I agree with you about some Scottish commentators being ignorant. Tonight, for example, one pundit casually dismissed Veloso and Moutinho.
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Protheus wrote:Good result for Sporting i think they have a good chance to advance now.
One thing i always fail to understand is why everytime portuguese teams play the 2 big scotish teams they think it will be a walk in the park, and then if they do not win or achieve the result they want call us cheaters, divers and so on. It is not as we have a hate history between both of us or something. I feel no rivalry towards them and never met any other portuguese that though that but it seems it is different from their part.
That's a good point. I'm not sure where it comes from either, but I guess it must have something to do with the image Portugal has within Britain. I always get the feeling that Portugal is portrayed as a poor little nation still using rocks to make fire. For some reason the Scots seem to think themselves quite superior to the Portuguese clubs... I guess it's because they have more money.
I have no problem saying that Porto is a stronger side than Sporting and they've, no question, what it takes to compete against almost anyone...and I mean compete to win. Porto being our champion and Rangers their champion, I'd put my money on our blue/whites.
It might have something to do with their Scotish character as well; it just seems they have a 'small man' complex and feel the need to put everyone else down that isn't clearly in another league to them...and even that line seems to be blurred for them.
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The Quiet Earth wrote:
I agree. I think Walter Smith will be happy with this result. I still think Rangers can progress from this round. But so can Sporting.
We'll see.
Luso
I agree with you about some Scottish commentators being ignorant. Tonight, for example, one pundit casually dismissed Veloso and Moutinho.
Our players, Portuguese, are usually dismissed as grabage until they wear foreign colours...then suddenly they're great players with massive talent.
Look at Porto's two winning sides; that team was hardly short on talent with many of those players now considered top of their class... how then does that equate to Porto having fluked their trophies?
A midfield of Costinha, Maniche & Deco only happened to be the same line-up Portugal used, with Carvalho unquestionably one of the best CBs in world football... but they too were 'nobodies' while at Porto.
If Sporting can get the same amount of success, I won't care what they call us... (that said, if Veloso or Moutinho move to a big English clubs these same fools will be showering them with compliments... completely oblivious to what they've said during this tie).
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Bayern - Getafe was a very interesting and enjoyable game,Bayern played well in the first half and deserved to lead,Getafe also played well and gave the Bayern defence problems.
In the second,as Getafe came looking for the away goal,Bayern had numerous chances to score a couple more goals,and Getafe got closer and closer,hitting the post,until finally breaking through near the end.
How will Getafe approach the home leg?...sit back and hit Bayern on the break,or go for it?.
Both teams are capable of scoring 2 or 3 goals each in this game,so it could be end to end stuff and a great game in prospect.I think it's still too close to call.
In the second,as Getafe came looking for the away goal,Bayern had numerous chances to score a couple more goals,and Getafe got closer and closer,hitting the post,until finally breaking through near the end.
How will Getafe approach the home leg?...sit back and hit Bayern on the break,or go for it?.
Both teams are capable of scoring 2 or 3 goals each in this game,so it could be end to end stuff and a great game in prospect.I think it's still too close to call.
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Don't forget us. We have been crappier than the lot of you put together.
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Disgusting Rangers hit again..
Look at them traitors play with one striker..keeping Buffel on the bench just to not give him the 100 matches. Disgusting team, disgusting history, woeful stadium, ugly fans I hate the bastards!
Hope they get knocked out by the drama c**ts of Sporting
God that keeper is a C0ck.
And how bad was Fiorentina? PSV,not even in form or with their strongest line-up, completely dominated the best playing Italian team.
PSV to win it
Look at them traitors play with one striker..keeping Buffel on the bench just to not give him the 100 matches. Disgusting team, disgusting history, woeful stadium, ugly fans I hate the bastards!
Hope they get knocked out by the drama c**ts of Sporting
God that keeper is a C0ck. And how bad was Fiorentina? PSV,not even in form or with their strongest line-up, completely dominated the best playing Italian team.
PSV to win it
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Clergyman Supertramp wrote:Disgusting Rangers hit again..
Look at them traitors play with one striker..keeping Buffel on the bench just to not give him the 100 matches. Disgusting team, disgusting history, woeful stadium, ugly fans I hate the bastards!
Hope they get knocked out by the drama c**ts of Sporting
And how bad was Fiorentina? PSV,not even in form or with their strongest line-up, completely dominated the best playing Italian team.
PSV to win it
You can call them whatever you want, as long as Sporitng goes through I'll be happy...
Getting your achiles tendon stepped on does hurt... and I thought Patrício would get a yellow... but he really didn´t do anything too much.
Ironically your comment was a little dramatic...drama queen.
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Fiorentina got dominated?? We must have seen different games.... Fiorentina are not currently the "best playing Italian team" by any imagination - they are having a terrible period of form in Serie A, having lost 4 of their last 8 games. And I think that kinda showed in the game against PSV, where inspite of their domination Fiorentina could not create many chances. Shows a team which lacks confidence.Clergyman Supertramp wrote:
And how bad was Fiorentina? PSV,not even in form or with their strongest line-up, completely dominated the best playing Italian team.
PSV to win it
PSV definately have the edge on this one.
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Good news for La Viola. Afellay can't play Thursday, because of an injury.
Luis Medina Cantelejo will be the ref.
Luis Medina Cantelejo will be the ref.
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De Guzman wrote:Good news for La Viola. Afellay can't play Thursday, because of an injury.
Luis Medina Cantelejo will be the ref.
Will this mean Aissati will *finally* get his chance ?
If so then Fiorentina are toast
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They'll probably go for Culina or somebody like that. I'ld play Aissati for sure. Will be a boring chess match. Just have to hope Medina Cantelejo has 1 of his triggerhappy days. He's the person on the pitch most likely to make it an open, exciting game.Axeslammer wrote:De Guzman wrote:Good news for La Viola. Afellay can't play Thursday, because of an injury.
Luis Medina Cantelejo will be the ref.
Will this mean Aissati will *finally* get his chance ?
If so then Fiorentina are toast
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Luso wrote:L r d wrote:Not a horrible result for Rangers. They will play ultra defensive in Portugal and it will be difficult for Sporting to score. Nick the first goal on a corner or something and i'd fancy them from there.
Some people say Rangers have been so lucky this season, when they go to Portugal they probably will come back with Madeline McCann
Thanks Getafe on costing me 300 quid c**ts!
Bet on Rangers and you'll lose another 300...
The whole league plays defensive in Alvalade...it'll be nothing new.
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Luso wrote:L r d wrote:Luso wrote:L r d wrote:Not a horrible result for Rangers. They will play ultra defensive in Portugal and it will be difficult for Sporting to score. Nick the first goal on a corner or something and i'd fancy them from there.
Some people say Rangers have been so lucky this season, when they go to Portugal they probably will come back with Madeline McCann
Thanks Getafe on costing me 300 quid c**ts!
Bet on Rangers and you'll lose another 300...
The whole league plays defensive in Alvalade...it'll be nothing new.
Defensive with big strong players everywhere? or latin defensive? Seriously unless Bolton was a one off then Liedson on his own upfront will find it very difficult and i cant see Sporting finding it easy at all to break 11 men down.
I might bet on them to go through and to win over there
Naturally if we're a latin side we play against latin defenses. That said there are some industrious teams within Portugal and neither Porto (who lost 2-nil) nor Benfica (1-1) had too much fun in the Alvalade this year.
Roma was outplayed and Manchester had a huge help in VDS who kept them in the game this season...
We haven't had a fit team for most of the season, the Bolton match was no acception. We created enough chances in Glasgow today to win, we had good chances from corners and Grimi/Izmailov/Liedson (should've scored) could've rapped this tie up for us tonight.
I'm not saying Rangers can't get through, they still can with luck, but if things run 'normally' Sporting will go through. Rangers can defend all they want, but I seriously doubt they'll keep a clean sheet...and once that isn't possible they'll have to score.
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Got the first bit rightDe Guzman wrote:So Zenit will KO both German clubs & beat PSV, who beat Sporting on penalties in the SF, in the final
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