Capello's first Ingerland squad

Should I take the silence on the points I made about Wheater as a victory?

Much like Man Utd fans will have taken Franks silence on the "Bennett allowed an offside goal" comment as a victory?

The-Frank-Tavern wrote:big difference being a p/t captain of man ure compared to england for one his press conferences would be hysterical he can't string two words together. he isn't vocal enough on the pitch not such a big issue as ure are generally winning. he'd do well to concentrate on his own game than worry about captaincy.

Terry's got to big for his boots. And his no respect to refs has not helped. Gerrard going missing on numerous occasions not helped him.
Rio has become a lot more mature and the way he owned Sidwell's comments on the f.a cup in an interview not long ago showed just that.
Roasting christmas parties aside he doesn't do much wrong anymore

Shouldn't you like him anyway? he's the only one who's been able to stop Torres who you hate with a passion

Consider it a victory Boro mate, frank is not known for admitting when he's wrong

borocooper wrote:

Much like Man Utd fans will have taken Franks silence on the "Bennett allowed an offside goal" comment as a victory?

When was that?

Parks lives wrote:

borocooper wrote:

Much like Man Utd fans will have taken Franks silence on the "Bennett allowed an offside goal" comment as a victory?

When was that?

Yesterday I think..Puro's "YO COTR" thread.

No one commented because there was no ‘offside goal’.

Markus wrote:No one commented because there was no ‘offside goal’.

Exactly...

Hopefully the captaincy will teach the hoofer how to pass. Otherwise Wheater > Ferdinand.

L r d wrote:Terry's got to big for his boots. And his no respect to refs has not helped. Gerrard going missing on numerous occasions not helped him.
Rio has become a lot more mature and the way he owned Sidwell's comments on the f.a cup in an interview not long ago showed just that.
Roasting christmas parties aside he doesn't do much wrong anymore

Shouldn't you like him anyway? he's the only one who's been able to stop Torres who you hate with a passion

Consider it a victory Boro mate, frank is not known for admitting when he's wrong

terry is a c0ck can't argue with that, and i do see he's struggling for options BUT rio will end up no better than terry by doing this. although this sums up englands probs too many arrogant players who believe they are better than they actually are, thanks to the likes of the media and mugs like many on here believing the hype

re: wheater
i've seen wheater on numerous occasions and not been impressed ffs being motm for boro in any game is hardly an over riding factor in wehther he should be in the england line up and nor imho have his performances for the u21s susggested he has what it takes to play international footy, sorry imho he is vvvvv average, even if cardiff was worse than normal the fact he can be so bad against 2 v average strikers is enough to show he is nowhere near ready for england yet

shazlx wrote:Hopefully the captaincy will teach the hoofer how to pass. Otherwise Wheater > Ferdinand.

Wheater >>>>>>>>>>> Gallas & Toure put together though anyone can make these ludicrous comparisons

Markus wrote:

shazlx wrote:Hopefully the captaincy will teach the hoofer how to pass. Otherwise Wheater > Ferdinand.

Wheater >>>>>>>>>>> Gallas & Toure put together though anyone can make these ludicrous comparisons

Wheater wouldn't be caught doing an African dance on the 6 yard line like Toure as Drogba bangs in the winner.

A change in order at last.

The-Frank-Tavern wrote:

L r d wrote:Terry's got to big for his boots. And his no respect to refs has not helped. Gerrard going missing on numerous occasions not helped him.
Rio has become a lot more mature and the way he owned Sidwell's comments on the f.a cup in an interview not long ago showed just that.
Roasting christmas parties aside he doesn't do much wrong anymore

Shouldn't you like him anyway? he's the only one who's been able to stop Torres who you hate with a passion

Consider it a victory Boro mate, frank is not known for admitting when he's wrong

terry is a c0ck can't argue with that, and i do see he's struggling for options BUT rio will end up no better than terry by doing this. although this sums up englands probs too many arrogant players who believe they are better than they actually are, thanks to the likes of the media and mugs like many on here believing the hype

re: wheater
i've seen wheater on numerous occasions

Sure you have

You're full of $h!t Frank...im sure everyone on here will have seen Wheater more than you, and ive seen nothing but praise for him on here and other sites, and in the media.

Hey, at least you were right about Torres not making it in the EPL

You're clueless.

borocooper wrote:

The-Frank-Tavern wrote:

L r d wrote:Terry's got to big for his boots. And his no respect to refs has not helped. Gerrard going missing on numerous occasions not helped him.
Rio has become a lot more mature and the way he owned Sidwell's comments on the f.a cup in an interview not long ago showed just that.
Roasting christmas parties aside he doesn't do much wrong anymore

Shouldn't you like him anyway? he's the only one who's been able to stop Torres who you hate with a passion

Consider it a victory Boro mate, frank is not known for admitting when he's wrong

terry is a c0ck can't argue with that, and i do see he's struggling for options BUT rio will end up no better than terry by doing this. although this sums up englands probs too many arrogant players who believe they are better than they actually are, thanks to the likes of the media and mugs like many on here believing the hype

re: wheater
i've seen wheater on numerous occasions

Sure you have

You're full of $h!t Frank...im sure everyone on here will have seen Wheater more than you, and ive seen nothing but praise for him on here and other sites, and in the media.

Hey, at least you were right about Torres not making it in the EPL

You're clueless.

I like Frank, but his opinions haven't come out too well this season.

P.S - I believe Frank said Ramos would hate Huddlestone ?

A Tribe Called TS wrote:P.S - I believe Frank said Ramos would hate Huddlestone ?

really? possibly said he wouldn't like him due to his overweight prob which was right. malbranque is the one who surprised me he's kept picking BUT the v latest i have is that there are vvvvvv few who are currently not expendable from the club's perspective

pretty sure i said he'd like jenas too when others were saying his days there were over

The-Frank-Tavern wrote:

pretty sure i said he'd like jenas too when others were saying his days there were over

Proof?

Parks lives wrote:

The-Frank-Tavern wrote:

pretty sure i said he'd like jenas too when others were saying his days there were over

Proof?

I do remember him saying that to be fair.

L r d wrote:

Parks lives wrote:

The-Frank-Tavern wrote:

pretty sure i said he'd like jenas too when others were saying his days there were over

Proof?

I do remember him saying that to be fair.

Party popper.

L r d wrote:

Parks lives wrote:

The-Frank-Tavern wrote:

pretty sure i said he'd like jenas too when others were saying his days there were over

Proof?

I do remember him saying that to be fair.

cheers lrd can't find it at the mo, thought it was a thread tweeds started but can't locate it

Ferdinand = captain, very good decision!!

Has anyone heard Jairzinho on England players?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/main.jhtml?view=DETAILS&grid=A1YourView&xml=/sport/2008/03/25/sfnjai125.xml

1) England players lack basic skills (fair enough maybe)

2) the only English players who'd stand a chance of getting into the Brazilian team, are, yes you've guessed it, GERRARD and LAMPARD



Has he even heard of Cole or Rooney? And it's not as if Ferdinand and Hargreaves (for instance) have anything to be embarrassed about compared to their Brazilian counterparts...

Rio captain hilarious, but probably the right decision as long as Greavsie gets a chance too...

Markus wrote:

shazlx wrote:Hopefully the captaincy will teach the hoofer how to pass. Otherwise Wheater > Ferdinand.

Wheater >>>>>>>>>>> Gallas & Toure put together though anyone can make these ludicrous comparisons

I ost this at the time but it looks like it never went through so I'll post it again.

The '>' symbol was meant as should replace.

bluenine wrote:Ferdinand = captain, very good decision!!

You've been brainwashed as well Bluey?

I don't know how Dopey will manage to remember to take his drugs tests along with having the burden of Captaincy.

A Tribe Called BM wrote:

bluenine wrote:Ferdinand = captain, very good decision!!

You've been brainwashed as well Bluey?

I don't know how Dopey will manage to remember to take his drugs tests along with having the burden of Captaincy.

Are you challenaging Don Fabio's decision? You want to sleep with the fishes?

Markus wrote:

A Tribe Called BM wrote:

bluenine wrote:Ferdinand = captain, very good decision!!

You've been brainwashed as well Bluey?

I don't know how Dopey will manage to remember to take his drugs tests along with having the burden of Captaincy.

Are you challenaging Don Fabio's decision? You want to sleep with the fishes?

I've questioned it before. And have seen him close up in Rome and nothing has happened to me.

If Rio play has a commanding game and keeps his interviews short and to the point then as captain of a football team he has done his job. Center backs seem to make the safest call for captaincy it seems, and it does make sense. There job is to sit back and watch the game more rather than chase it down like forwards and midfielders.

John Terry has been sent a clear message about his conduct after Rio Ferdinand was made England skipper.

Boss Fabio Capello gave the Chelsea captain a dressing down over his behaviour ahead of tonight’s friendly in France.
And when asked why he had overlooked Terry, he said: “I don’t have to explain my decisions to anyone.

We need to be role models when we play for England and for our clubs.

“Part of this involves fair play and respect towards the referee and the public who come to see the games.

“In that respect, we need to get back something we may be losing a bit.”

Capello has stressed to Terry that displays of dissent to referees similar to his antics at Spurs last week will not be tolerated.

The Three Lions chief added: “A captain must be an example to follow in training and a leader during the game.

“And, of course, I would hope he could be an example, a role model outside the game as well — in life.

“That’s very important. Not just for the England captain but for everything that we, as sportsmen, show youngsters. He has to be an example.”

Terry was made full-time England skipper by previous boss Steve McClaren in August 2006 and has led his country on 13 occasions since then.

But he was out injured for Capello’s first game against Switzerland last month when Steven Gerrard was given the armband.

Capello has made no promises that Terry will be restored to the role in the future.

But he did admit: “I will rotate the captain and I will name a permanent one in August. Until then, John Terry has a chance to become England captain.”

The Italian has clearly forgiven Ferdinand for his missed drugs test in 2004 which saw him banned for eight months.

Capello said: “The past is the past. From watching Rio play and in training, I’ve seen a very good professional. He can be a very good England captain.”

Alex Ferguson last night backed Capello’s decision.

The Manchester United boss said: “He wouldn’t have captained my side if he wasn’t capable of captaining England, I can assure you of that.

“Experience is important in the England role and Rio has more than 50 caps.”

How the mighty have fallen, nice to see the media had to postpone their pre-planned "JT's a natural committed leader" wankathon.

A Tribe Called TS wrote:How the mighty have fallen, nice to see the media had to postpone their pre-planned "JT's a natural committed leader" wankathon.

The Sun seemed really pissed off. Mentioned about 4 times the missed drugs test.

terry should never have been made captain in the first place...that was the first..but sadly not the last mistake of the mclaren era.

Thats what me, TS and a few others argued about for ages. The only two candidates people were willing to talk about were Gerrard and Terry who had just come back from having poor tournaments (both have never had a good International tournament either).