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    Post by robert Wed Mar 26, 2008 2:37 pm

    Yup the epl is more predictable in terms of overall positions or areas teams will be but then look at where are Newcastle, Tottenham, Pompey and City in relation to last season as well as their expectations this season.
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    Post by robert Wed Mar 26, 2008 2:40 pm

    The-Frank-Tavern wrote:
    robert wrote:lol! Can someone please recite Chelsea's form over the last 10 games? Hell ever since Grant took over, isn't it something like 2 draws 1 loss and the rest all wins.
    didn't they lose the CC cup final, draw in olympiakos? they've been v indifferent, appalling against luckyp0-0l, decent against cr@p that wont win the league

    We are talking about the league aren't we? Why bring in cup competitions into it. Anyway since you brought it up, how many teams are in the semi's in the Copa Del Rey who are not in the 1st division? Now look at England. Pompey are the only premier league team left. Also with Chelsea losing to Tottenham in the CC wouldn't that show unpredictablity. They beat Olympiacos 3-0 in like the 1st 30 mins in the return leg.

    You say La liga is interesting because it is less predictable but when Chelsea are not predictably winning they are inconsistent, you can't have it both ways.
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    Post by The-Frank-Tavern Wed Mar 26, 2008 2:50 pm

    the fa cup this season is a pure fluke exascarbated by the lack of regard shown to the competition by the top 4, BUT it also vvvvvvv difficult for it to happen in spain, there are a lot less lower league teams entered and the draws are seeded at the start, and teams in europe get a bye like in the Carling Cup. nevertheless none of the top 4 are in the final. apart from this season the last time a non top 4 club wasn't in the final is many many years ago, and the last non top 4 winner (as is now) was everton in 1995.

    The CC Final, Barnsley match and Olympiakos matches just show chelsea have lacked consistency in performance yet despite this they are well on course to finish 2nd in the league, where many at the start of the season would have predicted.

    the quality of the top 4 in the epl cannot be argued with this season, BUT as a spectacle i've found the spanish league far more interesting cos i watch a match having genuinely little idea as to what to expect.
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    Post by robert Wed Mar 26, 2008 3:07 pm

    The-Frank-Tavern wrote:the fa cup this season is a pure fluke exascarbated by the lack of regard shown to the competition by the top 4, BUT it also vvvvvvv difficult for it to happen in spain, there are a lot less lower league teams entered and the draws are seeded at the start, and teams in europe get a bye like in the Carling Cup. nevertheless none of the top 4 are in the final. apart from this season the last time a non top 4 club wasn't in the final is many many years ago, and the last non top 4 winner (as is now) was everton in 1995.

    Spanish giants also don't regard their cup too much. I'll concede that this season was a fluke but to say Chelsea and Man utd didn't play their best teams is a fallacy. Regardless, shocks happen, they won't in Spain because the 2 legged format won't allow it to happen.

    The-Frank-Tavern wrote:
    The CC Final, Barnsley match and Olympiakos matches just show chelsea have lacked consistency in performance yet despite this they are well on course to finish 2nd in the league, where many at the start of the season would have predicted.

    How have Barca played this season? At some points Real have been 8 behind at other points they have had chances to close and even overtake Real but then end up being severely thumped. The S. Aguero demolition comes to mind. They are still on course to finish second. Matter of fact their lead over Villarreal is larger than Chelsea's over Arsenal. And who would have predicted Barca to not have been 1st or 2nd eh?

    The-Frank-Tavern wrote:
    the quality of the top 4 in the epl cannot be argued with this season, BUT as a spectacle i've found the spanish league far more interesting cos i watch a match having genuinely little idea as to what to expect.

    At this stage I have little idea what to expect. I didn't expect us to take this long to chase down Arsenal if we ever were too. The lead has fluctuated a lot at some point Arsenal were 5 points ahead. We still have to play Chelsea at the Bridge and Arsenal at home, those can go either way. We still have to play at some places where we historically have struggled such as Blackburn so to say the league is wrapped up is wrong.
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    Post by Super Progress Wed Mar 26, 2008 3:14 pm

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    one who think that there doesnt happen surprises in the Copa del Rey but this isnt true. look at last season where Getafe wins 4-1 after being thrashed 5-2 in the first leg. before we have had Real losing 6-1. also nobody form the Big 2 have won the competition in the last 10 years i think and with Real it is something like 15 years i think.

    Regarding the competition i havent been that interested in any of the big 3 leagues this season. So far though i would say it has been the EPL and it looks like where one should look for competition BUT you never know with La liga and if we get less then 4 points in our next matches against sevilla and mallorca then we will prob get a great run in with a Classico that could determind it.
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    Post by The-Frank-Tavern Wed Mar 26, 2008 3:16 pm

    every team here has had spells on inconsistency hence its still open, if either madriz or barça had been a little more so then they'd have been streets clear, but its never looked likely even on their good runs madriz were looking v ragged at times and got lucky, eg getafe away.

    i think your comment on the last point is a little negative from a man u perspective but overall most of the results have been relatively predictable, it was always on the cards that arsenal would have a dodgy run it was just a matter of when. the prob for me with it all is that 5-10 were pretty predictable just a matter of order overall, whereas compared to spain, you'd have had a lot less of an idea from 3-12
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    Post by christmasborocooper Wed Mar 26, 2008 3:25 pm

    The-Frank-Tavern wrote:
    robert wrote:lol! Can someone please recite Chelsea's form over the last 10 games? Hell ever since Grant took over, isn't it something like 2 draws 1 loss and the rest all wins.
    didn't they lose the CC cup final, draw in olympiakos? they've been v indifferent, appalling against luckyp0-0l, decent against cr@p that wont win the league

    vvvvvvvvvv indifferent surely?
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    Post by Parks lives Wed Mar 26, 2008 3:26 pm

    borocooper wrote:
    The-Frank-Tavern wrote:
    robert wrote:lol! Can someone please recite Chelsea's form over the last 10 games? Hell ever since Grant took over, isn't it something like 2 draws 1 loss and the rest all wins.
    didn't they lose the CC cup final, draw in olympiakos? they've been v indifferent, appalling against luckyp0-0l, decent against cr@p that wont win the league

    vvvvvvvvvv indifferent surely?

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