BOY that ARGIE was overated thread!

Been a lot of hype, a lot of suckers for the hype, but the cycle goes on and on.

The new Maradona or the next big thing, there's always an incredible Argie around the corner according to some.

Try to recall a list and see how many there actually has been.

I'll start it off.

1.

Andrés D'Alessandro. The new this the new that, the new Zidane etc etc etc etc etc. Never quite took off in the end and now is jumping from la liga club to la liga club not really making an impact anywhere. A decent player but no more use than a Patrick Berger or a Mendieta

Looked good for Portsmouth......

2.

Carlos Marinelli.

He was actually a really good player to watch, just a horrible attitude. Fans were on his back from the beginning though..being the new Maradona is hard work. Is now tearing up the MLS with Kanzas City Wizards.

3. The answer to England's left side problem or a fat Ali G? You decide.

After watching a video of his father, Juan Ramón Verón, scoring against United in the 1968 World Club Championship at Old Trafford for Estudiantes Sir Aled Fergusoon spend a modest $77m on the former model.

Touted as the new Viera it became immediately apparent that he was not fit to clean David Bellion's boots and was flogged to fellow struggler's Chelsea where he unfortunately died.

When was D'Alessandro dubbed the new Zidane? And Mendieta was one of the best midfielders in the Europe for a while.

Anyway...

4.

Leandro Romagnoli. Was dubbed the new Maradona, but has just ended up being a slighltly above average player at a decent team. Doesn't really have the physique to do well in Europe.

5. Martín "Not for public use" Palermo



Scored over a million goals for Boca, came to Europe and 'pulled a Forlan'

I couldn't even get him to score on Championship Manager.

Ian St. Glenn™ wrote:5. Martín "Not for public use" Palermo



Scored over a million goals for Boca, came to Europe and 'pulled a Forlan'

I couldn't even get him to score on Championship Manager.

I always found these overrated Argies were pretty useful in Championship Manager. Part of the reason they were overrated was because they were so good on games like these. Remember Cavenaghi? he used to get me 30+ goals a season yet all see that he is just an average striker now.

I don’t think that Argentines are over rated and usually like them very much, but I do have a list of players that I thought would fare better in Europe.

Saviola


Aimar

how could we forget this guy

8. Guillermo 'Poor Man's Vladimir Smicer' Barros Schelotto





Like every Argentine footballer never to play in Europe, Guillermo Barros Schelotto was the best Argentinian footballer never to play in Europe. Best known as the twin brother of Gustavo Barros Schelotto who did play in Europe and was shite, Guillermo Barros Schelotto now plays for MLS hot shots Columbus Crew.

BoBo Vieri 3-2 wrote:
I always found these overrated Argies were pretty useful in Championship Manager. Part of the reason they were overrated was because they were so good on games like these. Remember Cavenaghi? he used to get me 30+ goals a season yet all see that he is just an average striker now.

Cavenaghi and Cisse were awesome for me in the 2004 game, you could get Cavenaghi, Robinho, Diego and some change for a shilling. Even better was the early games when Maradona and Gascoigne retired they came back as 16 year olds. Oh the spooge.

Indeed Juligen Saviola is another championship manager one



Actually won me many titles back in 2001, but despite playing for barca, real madrid and being involved in that great world cup goal. Turned out to be pretty much rubbish. Probably the 5th choice Real Madrid striker and they only have 4.

Verdict - Overated in the extreme. Do we blame championship manager or Callidads of this world? does Callidad work for championship manager? maybe we'll never know



He was number 6 or 7

@ Lrd and the lovely Glenn, do you guys really play football in video game?

Juligen wrote:

Aimar

my friend Tim is the lanky spit of Aimar and so I've always liked him, even when he and Rafa ripped us to shreds in the Champions League. He's gone downhill since Rafa left Spain but always looked pretty good for Argentina.

Juligen wrote:@ Lrd and the lovely Glenn, do you guys really play football in video game?

Liverpool fans wouldn't have survived the 90's without Championship Manager

Juligen wrote:@ Lrd and the lovely Glenn, do you guys really play football in video game?

Never played the old championship manager or the revamped style football manager?

Gosh you aint lived. That's where 90% of our football info comes from!

BoBo Vieri 3-2 wrote:how could we forget this guy

Was Ortega overated Bobo? Always had the impression he did pretty well but don't remember his career.

can I have Riquelme? He was a bit of a 1 season wonder with a revival. Or Gustavo Lopez? Oh if only Freddy Adu were Argentine my memory is useless

L r d wrote:

BoBo Vieri 3-2 wrote:how could we forget this guy

Was Ortega overated Bobo? Always had the impression he did pretty well but don't remember his career.

in the Aimar catagory. Maybe made the wrong move, maybe moved too late. Was a great player who got bored and went home.

Ian St. Glenn wrote:

Juligen wrote:@ Lrd and the lovely Glenn, do you guys really play football in video game?

Liverpool fans wouldn't have survived the 90's without Championship Manager

Aww Well at least you are the European King in England

@ Lrd, I cant play football manager, its already too weird for my friends and family that I know who Paul Schools is.


Ortega was such a dirty bastard; I wake up at 3:00 am in the 2002 WC, just to see him and Argentina getting eliminated. I actually felt cramps and was shaken so emotional that I was.

Julian your avatar offends sensitive men everywhere.

Ian St. Glenn wrote:Julian your avatar offends sensitive men everywhere.

I forgot about my avatar Glenn, doesnt Liverpool has a Argentine player? I actually thought that Aimar was going to Liverpool since Benitez is there.

Juligen wrote:

Ian St. Glenn wrote:Julian your avatar offends sensitive men everywhere.

I forgot about my avatar Glenn, doesnt Liverpool has a Argentine player? I actually thought that Aimar was going to Liverpool since Benitez is there.

aren't you from Brazil?

I'd love Aimar, but it's probably too late

Ian St. Glenn wrote:

Juligen wrote:

Aimar

my friend Tim is the lanky spit of Aimar and so I've always liked him, even when he and Rafa ripped us to shreds in the Champions League. He's gone downhill since Rafa left Spain but always looked pretty good for Argentina.

In his last season at Valencia he was hospitalised with a meningitis scare. Remarkable he plays at all after that. Always liked him. Very talented player, although Ranieri used to complain that he only showed up every third game. Great player when he did and very nice guy. Once was at a training session at Valencia. He was driving off when some fans asked him for a photo and autograph. He reversed his car into position for their shot, posed for photos and signed autographs before driving off.

Ian St. Glenn wrote:Aren't you from Brazil?

I'd love Aimar, but it's probably too late

I forgot about Mascherano, how could I, he was the talk of the week. I like him, he just need to grow up a little.

EMP wrote:He was driving off when some fans asked him for a photo and autograph. He reversed his car into position for their shot, posed for photos and signed autographs before driving off.

I remember that. He drove over my foot and a couple of cats. Ruined a small child's sandcastle too if I'm not mistaken.

Ian St. Glenn wrote:

L r d wrote:

BoBo Vieri 3-2 wrote:how could we forget this guy

Was Ortega overated Bobo? Always had the impression he did pretty well but don't remember his career.

in the Aimar catagory. Maybe made the wrong move, maybe moved too late. Was a great player who got bored and went home.

hmmmmm i imagine he got a lot of hype

So verdict OVERATED

Never hit the heights never hit the heights.

Ian St. Glenn wrote:

EMP wrote:He was driving off when some fans asked him for a photo and autograph. He reversed his car into position for their shot, posed for photos and signed autographs before driving off.

I remember that. He drove over my foot and a couple of cats. Ruined a small child's sandcastle too if I'm not mistaken.

Damn stupid place to build a sandcastle.

Aimar actually started his career in Europe very well, Valencia was doing great, they won a Liga, which if you think that Barca and Real dominates, is not that easy and I thought that he was going to be a World Champion with Argentina in 2002.
Then after Benitez left he got some wealth problems he never was the same.

Juligen wrote:

Ian St. Glenn wrote:

Juligen wrote:@ Lrd and the lovely Glenn, do you guys really play football in video game?

Liverpool fans wouldn't have survived the 90's without Championship Manager

Aww Well at least you are the European King in England

@ Lrd, I cant play football manager, its already too weird for my friends and family that I know who Paul Schools is.


Ortega was such a dirty bastard; I wake up at 3:00 am in the 2002 WC, just to see him and Argentina getting eliminated. I actually felt cramps and was shaken so emotional that I was.

Cant quite recall what happenend in 02, but i remember in 98 he butted VDS only for Bergkamp to score a few minutes later.

That year i hated Argentinia after Simone and Beckham Simone was a super c**t. Bergkamp's goal could have been a goal in a cl final for manu, it was great