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    BOY that ARGIE was overated thread!

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    Post by Calidad Sat Mar 29, 2008 4:08 pm

    Barrilete_Cosmico wrote:@Coop

    sorry man but how on earth did marinelli ever had to cope with the new Maradona label(which by the way is more freely given away by european media than by ours)???i don't think there was any coach that actually rated him bar the naive boro youth managers...Still, thanks for the money

    @at the rest of you

    Aimar was huge for Benitez's Valencia. Voted most influential player for the team in the season triumphs by the fans back then
    His only problem was that his physique which never allowed him to fully develop as a player. Even with the games that his body let him play he still oozed class in every ball he touched. He(or she) who says otherwise has never actually seen him play for more than two games.

    I seriously doubt anyone every rated Palermo the next Maradona, the guy could loose the ball between his legs(I think it has happened before) all by himself, yet he has scored so many goals it's unbelievable...not to mention to one of your beloved keepers Casillas

    Just seen this post. You're right about the influence of the media over here too. The latest one is Franco Di Santo, who despite being about 6'6 and a targetman has been compared (by the British media) to Maradona.

    Agree with the rest of your post too. ok
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    Post by Barrilete Sat Mar 29, 2008 8:30 pm

    Alive and Kicking wrote:
    BoBo Vieri 3-2 wrote:
    Ian St. Glenn™ wrote:5. Martín "Not for public use" Palermo

    BOY that ARGIE was overated thread! - Page 4 Img.87617_t

    Scored over a million goals for Boca, came to Europe and 'pulled a Forlan'

    I couldn't even get him to score on Championship Manager.

    I always found these overrated Argies were pretty useful in Championship Manager. Part of the reason they were overrated was because they were so good on games like these. Remember Cavenaghi? he used to get me 30+ goals a season yet all see that he is just an average striker now.

    Cavenaghi is not an average striker, he's actually quite good. He has done very well since the winter break. He needed a while to settle down. Lots of clubs are after him btw.

    scored two against nancy...think bordeaux might catch up with???


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    Post by Axeslammer Sat Mar 29, 2008 9:04 pm

    Axeslammer wrote:33. Ivan Gabrich ! cheers

    Does none of the Dutchies remember this *awesome* striker that wouldn't fall down ?

    Presented as a *huge* transfer at Ajax, he got kicked out after 10 matches and 0 goals.

    ....someone should have reminded Scheringa this is what happens when Van Gaal is in charge of buying strikers (cue : Pelle & Ari) Ale
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    Post by Formerly known as sheva7 Sat Mar 29, 2008 10:27 pm

    You forgot that there is life beyond Europe. Calling Riquelme or Palermo overrated is ridiculous.

    Saviola has to be the most overrated argentinian player ever. At 17 he was Argentinian league topscorer and he won FIFA U20 WC Golden ball and Golden Boot winner. Maybe he deserved to be labelled as the "new Maradona" because he achieved a lot when he was a teenager.
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    Post by A & K Sun Mar 30, 2008 5:49 am

    Barrilete_Cosmico wrote:
    Alive and Kicking wrote:
    BoBo Vieri 3-2 wrote:
    Ian St. Glenn™ wrote:5. Martín "Not for public use" Palermo

    BOY that ARGIE was overated thread! - Page 4 Img.87617_t

    Scored over a million goals for Boca, came to Europe and 'pulled a Forlan'

    I couldn't even get him to score on Championship Manager.

    I always found these overrated Argies were pretty useful in Championship Manager. Part of the reason they were overrated was because they were so good on games like these. Remember Cavenaghi? he used to get me 30+ goals a season yet all see that he is just an average striker now.

    Cavenaghi is not an average striker, he's actually quite good. He has done very well since the winter break. He needed a while to settle down. Lots of clubs are after him btw.

    scored two against nancy...think burdeux might catch up with???

    I think Cavenaghi is under-rated. This year he has scored 12 goals in 18 games, and 5 goals in 7 seven games in the UEFA cup. What do you think of him Barrilete?
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    Post by Barrilete Sun Mar 30, 2008 1:36 pm

    Alive and Kicking wrote:
    Barrilete_Cosmico wrote:
    Alive and Kicking wrote:
    BoBo Vieri 3-2 wrote:
    Ian St. Glenn™ wrote:5. Martín "Not for public use" Palermo

    BOY that ARGIE was overated thread! - Page 4 Img.87617_t

    Scored over a million goals for Boca, came to Europe and 'pulled a Forlan'

    I couldn't even get him to score on Championship Manager.

    I always found these overrated Argies were pretty useful in Championship Manager. Part of the reason they were overrated was because they were so good on games like these. Remember Cavenaghi? he used to get me 30+ goals a season yet all see that he is just an average striker now.

    Cavenaghi is not an average striker, he's actually quite good. He has done very well since the winter break. He needed a while to settle down. Lots of clubs are after him btw.

    scored two against nancy...think bordeaux might catch up with???

    I think Cavenaghi is under-rated. This year he has scored 12 goals in 18 games, and 5 goals in 7 seven games in the UEFA cup. What do you think of him Barrilete?
    he used to have a very promising future when he was at river, but then he went to Russian football and disappeared completely. I think not only the leagues difference affected him but mainly the cultural ones. Bad choice for his career. I think he could very well end up being one of those who show up late in their career. It certainly wouldn't do us harm as we are in need for strikers of his characteristics.
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    Post by Oleguerisntthatbad Sun Mar 30, 2008 1:55 pm

    Is Higuaín an overrated player?

    I know it is very early in his career and that he made a huge mistake in joining Real too soon.. but to be honest he seems like a forward without killer instincts. It doesn't help that he is played like a winger, but he just doesn't seem to be a very good finisher...
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    Post by TM Sun Mar 30, 2008 1:57 pm

    Oleguerisntthatbad wrote:Is Higuaín an overrated player?

    I know it is very early in his career and that he made a huge mistake in joining Real too soon.. but to be honest he seems like a forward without killer instincts. It doesn't help that he is played like a winger, but he just doesn't seem to be a very good finisher...

    He's a SS, which at Real theres already plenty of. He couldn't hit a barn door if his life depended on it. Against Espanyol it luckily came of his knee and somehow went in, last week he was a few yards out and headed the ball into Hildebrand Doh
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    Post by Oleguerisntthatbad Sun Mar 30, 2008 2:01 pm

    And what about Gago.. also very young.. but to be honest he isn't good enough to run Real's midfield. Banega is making much more of an impact.

    Again, I know it is very early, but considering the hype and how he was the new Redondo bla bla bla...
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    Post by TM Sun Mar 30, 2008 2:09 pm

    Oleguerisntthatbad wrote:And what about Gago.. also very young.. but to be honest he isn't good enough to run Real's midfield. Banega is making much more of an impact.

    Again, I know it is very early, but considering the hype and how he was the new Redondo bla bla bla...

    Gago is quality, needs a couple of years to adapt and the usual stuff. He tackles well and can make some quality passes, i.e. that over the top ball to Midget man who then scored.
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    Post by Oleguerisntthatbad Sun Mar 30, 2008 2:13 pm

    A top club doesn't have time to allow a few years to settle.. Only the canteranos should get that kind of time.

    If a player can't settle in 18 months then it is time to move him on. He is just blocking your canteranos like De la Red..
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    Post by Super Progress Sun Mar 30, 2008 3:47 pm

    Oleguerisntthatbad wrote:A top club doesn't have time to allow a few years to settle.. Only the canteranos should get that kind of time.

    If a player can't settle in 18 months then it is time to move him on. He is just blocking your canteranos like De la Red..
    I dont agree. as long as you only have a player or two that needs time to settle in then it is ok. we overpaid for both Gago and Higuain but i think they could become very good if they are at least allowed play their real position. Gago has only been allowed to play as the lone Dm in some games after Winter where he was in good form. Higuain again needs confidence because he scored goals for River and he has to play as a striker.

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