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    Arsenal FC Summer 2008 Thread

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    Post by fcb Wed Apr 23, 2008 6:45 am

    lol!

    New season, same old $h!t from the English clubs.
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    Post by Cesc Soler Wed Apr 23, 2008 11:22 am

    Gunners losing Flamini battle

    The French internationals current contract at Emirates Stadium is due to expire in the summer, and he is yet to sign a new deal despite a reported £50,000 a week offer being on the table for over a month.

    The Gunners now fear that Flamini may have already agreed a pre-contract agreement with Italian suitors Juventus, and accept that they may be forced to part company with the combative midfielder in the near future.

    "We have made what we think is a pretty generous offer and we are waiting to hear whether he will accept or not," Hill-Wood said in the Daily Star.

    "You just don't know nowadays. You think players have a pretty good life, but, somehow, someone persuades them the grass might be greener somewhere else.

    "So I don't know the answer, all I know is we think we have pushed the boat out."

    Juventus have been tracking Flamini for some time now, and are believed to have offered him a deal worth around £10,000 a week more than the Gunners.

    The Italian club's director Jean-Claude Blanc confirmed on Tuesday that a deal for the player is almost complete, and has now dismissed speculation which has suggested that their arch rivals Milan could be set to hijack the move at the last minute.

    "We have the advantage (over Milan)," he said.

    "As a child Flamini was a supporter of Juve.

    "We also have a sporting project in place and we will be in the Champions League. Milan will not."

    http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11095_3463218,00.html
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    Post by Sheffield gunner Wed Apr 23, 2008 1:19 pm

    Hleb has admitted the charge against him and will now miss the rest of the season.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/a/arsenal/7361157.stm
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    Post by Cesc Soler Wed Apr 23, 2008 5:03 pm

    Arsene Wenger planning to keep key men

    Arsene Wenger believes ensuring Cesc Fabregas, Alexander Hleb and Mathieu Flamini stay at Arsenal will be his most important task in the summer before looking to add new players to his squad. The Arsenal manager maintains his young squad does not need major surgery despite the club falling short in all major competitions, but concedes they do lack experience.

    "There is money there [for transfers], but not as much as I read in the newspapers, because that is not true," Wenger said. "However, with my financial package, the first thing I have to make sure is we keep the players we have at the moment. That is what people forget.

    "The new rules put you under threat to lose your best players because after three years any player can walk out [of his club] and after two any player over 28 [can leave]. So the rules and the structure of the wages bill is always under threat.

    "It is not as simple as it looks when you read there is so much money available to buy players - that transfer budget also includes the improvement of the wages."

    Wenger has been linked with a number of potential transfer targets, including Amauri, the Palermo striker, Hatem Ben Arfa, the Lyon winger and David Villa, the Valencia forward. "Who we will buy in the summer is not decided yet, but I have players in mind," he said. "We have lists which we keep up to date, player number one, two, three or four in the positions were we look for - and you go of course for the number one."

    "I believe at some stage you need to strengthen the team, but changing the team means kick some players out and replacing them. That is not the feeling I have. I feel this team has been absolutely tremendous."

    Despite another barren campaign - the 2005 FA Cup was Arsenal's last piece of silverware and it is now four years since they won the league - Wenger maintains his men are making progress. "In the last season, we have heard enough that we have not won any trophies. Then again you have to take some distance with that. "What is better? To have won the Carling Cup or to have gone in the Champions League final in 2006?

    "We know it is not enough and we want to do more. But I believe not to recognise the merit of this team would be a professional mistake and I would not stand up for that. This team is tremendous and has a tremendous future. Maybe we have to add a bit of experience to all that - but we have done the main job."

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/arsenal/article3801973.ece
    Am I right in saying that Hleb could buyout his existing contract this summer as he signed in the summer of 2005 it will be three years into his contract?

    I don't understand the Amauri link either, he simply won't leave Italy until he gets his dual citizenship. Juventus are apparently favourites for him.
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    Post by The-Frank-Tavern Wed Apr 23, 2008 5:05 pm

    Cesc wrote:Am I right in saying that Hleb could buyout his existing contract this summer as he signed in the summer of 2005 it will be three years into his contract?
    pretty sure that's correct seen it somewhere else too
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    Post by lrdsucksgoats Wed Apr 23, 2008 7:27 pm

    Cesc wrote:
    Am I right in saying that Hleb could buyout his existing contract this summer as he signed in the summer of 2005 it will be three years into his contract?

    Dead right.
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    Post by Cesc Soler Thu Apr 24, 2008 1:26 am

    Arsene Wenger's interview from yesterday:

    • that David Villa rumour
    • the need for changes
    • the sale that is needed
    • the money available
    • the rules changes that affected his plans.
    • the way wages eat into his budget.
    • his transfer 'war chest'

    Wenger - How my shopping list works
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    Post by Tweesus Thu Apr 24, 2008 10:49 am

    I can't access the vid. What exactly does he say?
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    Post by Cesc Soler Thu Apr 24, 2008 12:02 pm

    Summary


    • He said the David Villa admiration was a big compliment, but at the moment he is looking to keep the squad together. (He didn't categorically rule him out)

    • He already has players in mind for this summer. He actually has a physical shopping list of players which is numbered by each position and choice, 1,2,3 ...

    • He thinks we have made progress this season, he thinks the current group is tremendous and has a great future. Wenger believes we have gained many fans from around the world because of this team but we might need to add a bit of salt to the ingredients this summer.

    • If one or two quality experienced player/s becomes available we will look at it.

    • There is money for this summer, but not as much as the press is speculating. His first job is to keep everyone together then use the budget for additions. He then goes on to mention how the new section 17 FIFA rule will affect the game in the future.


    Conclusion: Wenger is keeping his cards close to his chest as usual. ok
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    Post by fcb Thu Apr 24, 2008 12:03 pm

    Cesc wrote:
    [*]He thinks we have made progress this season, he thinks the current group is tremendous and has a great future. Wenger believes we have gained many fans from around the world because of this team but we might need to add a bit of salt to the ingredients this summer.


    Ooooh kinky!
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    Post by Tweesus Thu Apr 24, 2008 12:06 pm

    Cheers Cesc. What is the FIFA section 17 ruling?

    Good to hear that there's a physical shopping list anyway. Should avoid us panic buying too late in the summer.
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    Post by Cesc Soler Thu Apr 24, 2008 12:13 pm

    Section 17 is also known as the Andy Webster ruling, where players can buy there contracts out for the remaining value of there contract. He mentions this because Hleb will be eligible for this ruling soon.

    I personally think we will have to sell this summer to avoid letting him go for a much smaller figure.
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    Post by Yef Thu Apr 24, 2008 12:22 pm

    Arsenal signed Gomes according to the rumors, 15 million. It is some money, but you got a serious goalkeeper now ok
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    Post by fcb Thu Apr 24, 2008 12:26 pm

    Wow, if that's true the Arsenal fans must be over the moon.
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    Post by Sheffield gunner Thu Apr 24, 2008 1:20 pm

    How serious are those rumours Fey?

    I would be delighted with that. Also is that £15m or €15m?
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    Post by Cesc Soler Thu Apr 24, 2008 1:30 pm

    Surely it would be €15m which would be say £11.9m. I would pay that for him.

    Apparently he is annoyed at the false promises made by a PSV general manager, they brought a second goalkeeping coach (Hans Segers) without Gomes being consulted. Could all just be an excuse to get out though, it probably is.


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    Post by Yef Thu Apr 24, 2008 1:35 pm

    Well Gomes will leave PSV for sure now, so with a bit of luck you can get him for less, problem is you also have competition of...SPURS Laughing for him
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    Post by Sheffield gunner Thu Apr 24, 2008 1:46 pm

    Arsène Wenger may rotate some of his players for the final three games of the season if they have a busy summer ahead.

    Many of the Arsenal squad will be involved in Euro 2008 during June so, as his team have little left to play for, the Frenchman could rest them for the trips to Derby and Sunderland or the home game against Everton.

    "That is what I have to think about," Wenger told Arsenal.com before the weekend games.

    "Maybe I'll have to give the players who go to the European Championships a little breather before they go."

    http://www.arsenal.com/article.asp?thisNav=News&article=490673&lid=NewsHeadline&Title=Wenger+-+I+could+rest+Euro+2008+players+in+final+games
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    Post by fcb Thu Apr 24, 2008 2:06 pm

    So no more Cesc. Though it shouldn't matter since he doesn't start for Spain anyway.
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    Post by Sheffield gunner Thu Apr 24, 2008 2:12 pm

    Cesc and Gallas only I would have thought. Clichy probably won't go, or if he does he won't play. Flamini is unlikely to play for France and Van Persie needs as much match-fitness as he can get. I'm not sure who we will play in midfield this weekend. Hleb is out now and I think Diaby is injured as well.

    If he rests Cesc we might have to play:

    Eboue---Gilberto---Denilson---Walcott
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    Post by Cesc Soler Thu Apr 24, 2008 2:15 pm

    It is one game a week, hardly demanding. In fact it is ideal for the likes of van Persie, Flamini, Diaby, Djourou who all need to build up fitness for the end of May.

    Gallas and Fabregas are the only everpresents that need a rest. The Czech's we probably take Rosicky, even if he has a bandage on either thigh.
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    Post by Sheffield gunner Thu Apr 24, 2008 2:19 pm

    Diaby and Djourou are both injured aren't they? I don't know when they are expected back although neither injury sounds serious.
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    Post by Cesc Soler Thu Apr 24, 2008 3:16 pm

    Yeah, both have minor injuries. Djourou pulled out just before the West Ham reserve fixture with a back complaint whilst Diaby went off just before half time complaining of a strained thigh.

    I think Djourou will go the Austria/Switzerland regardless, his manager will have seen a lot of him at Birmingham City. It is just a shame it hasn't quite gone for him since he has come back from that loan spell.
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    Post by Cesc Soler Thu Apr 24, 2008 4:26 pm

    Spoke to soon. Diaby is now out of the European Championships.

    Three midfielders ruled out for the rest of the season

    Alex Hleb, Abou Diaby and Tomas Rosicky will not play for Arsenal again this season.

    Arsène Wenger revealed the news in an exclusive interview with Arsenal TV Online on Thursday afternoon.

    Hleb's absence was already known. On Wednesday he received a suspension for the final three games of the season following an incident in the game against Reading last Saturday, meanwhile Rosicky has not played since January because of a hamstring problem. However news of Diaby's injury was acutely disappointing.

    The Frenchman ruptured a tendon in his thigh in a Reserve game on Monday night. Wenger believes his recuperation will take eight weeks and that will be a body blow to Diaby's chances of being selected for Euro 2008. Ironically, the 21-year-old was due back from a domestic suspension at Derby on Monday.

    Elsewhere, Bacary Sagna and Mathieu Flamini (both ankle) are still out. Manuel Almunia is fit after his wrist injury but the manager has yet to decide whether the Spaniard will return for the trip to Pride Park.

    "It looks like the season is over for Hleb, Rosicky and Diaby," said Wenger. "Hleb is suspended and I don't believe we'll see Tomas Rosicky again [this term].

    "But we have lost Abou Diaby too. He was supposed to come back after suspension but he got an injury that will rule him out until the end of the season.

    "The problem occurred during a Reserve game. It was a simple pass and he ruptured the tendon in his thigh muscle. It will be at least eight weeks for him.

    "Sagna and Flamini are not back so basically it will be the same squad as last week.

    "Almunia is available again but I have not decided what I will do with the goalkeepers yet."

    http://www.arsenal.com/article.asp?thisNav=News&article=490665&lid=NewsHeadline&Title=Three+midfielders+ruled+out+for+the+rest+of+the+season

    So Rosicky, Hleb, Flamini and Diaby are all out and we plan to rest Fabregas at some stage, it could be a very different midfield for the last three games.
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    Post by The Pröfessör Thu Apr 24, 2008 5:02 pm

    Have we got the most injury prone/unreliable squad of the big 4 in England? Two of our 1st choice players(rosicky and RVP) are always out injured and the other squad players are always either injured or suspended when u need them.
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    Post by shazlx Thu Apr 24, 2008 7:20 pm

    Yef wrote:Arsenal signed Gomes according to the rumors, 15 million. It is some money, but you got a serious goalkeeper now ok
    Don't say these things if they are not true. You don't know the smile I have on my face just from reading that even from Fey.
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    Post by TheCrazy58 Thu Apr 24, 2008 9:07 pm

    Cesc wrote:Spoke to soon. Diaby is now out of the European Championships.

    Three midfielders ruled out for the rest of the season

    Alex Hleb, Abou Diaby and Tomas Rosicky will not play for Arsenal again this season.

    Arsène Wenger revealed the news in an exclusive interview with Arsenal TV Online on Thursday afternoon.

    Hleb's absence was already known. On Wednesday he received a suspension for the final three games of the season following an incident in the game against Reading last Saturday, meanwhile Rosicky has not played since January because of a hamstring problem. However news of Diaby's injury was acutely disappointing.

    The Frenchman ruptured a tendon in his thigh in a Reserve game on Monday night. Wenger believes his recuperation will take eight weeks and that will be a body blow to Diaby's chances of being selected for Euro 2008. Ironically, the 21-year-old was due back from a domestic suspension at Derby on Monday.

    Elsewhere, Bacary Sagna and Mathieu Flamini (both ankle) are still out. Manuel Almunia is fit after his wrist injury but the manager has yet to decide whether the Spaniard will return for the trip to Pride Park.

    "It looks like the season is over for Hleb, Rosicky and Diaby," said Wenger. "Hleb is suspended and I don't believe we'll see Tomas Rosicky again [this term].

    "But we have lost Abou Diaby too. He was supposed to come back after suspension but he got an injury that will rule him out until the end of the season.

    "The problem occurred during a Reserve game. It was a simple pass and he ruptured the tendon in his thigh muscle. It will be at least eight weeks for him.

    "Sagna and Flamini are not back so basically it will be the same squad as last week.

    "Almunia is available again but I have not decided what I will do with the goalkeepers yet."

    http://www.arsenal.com/article.asp?thisNav=News&article=490665&lid=NewsHeadline&Title=Three+midfielders+ruled+out+for+the+rest+of+the+season

    So Rosicky, Hleb, Flamini and Diaby are all out and we plan to rest Fabregas at some stage, it could be a very different midfield for the last three games.

    Fabianski

    Hoyte-Toure-Senderos - Clichy

    Walcott-Denilson - Gilberto - Traore

    Bentdner- VanP

    Might just get away with this at Derby Erm

    Meanwhile I hope Flamini is being kept locked in a dark room without food or water until he signs a new contract.


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    Post by Romford Pele Thu Apr 24, 2008 10:14 pm

    Barazite!
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    Post by Black Magic Thu Apr 24, 2008 10:59 pm

    Gomes and Afellay from PSV. Cool
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    Ray Parlour wrote:Barazite!

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