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    Arsenal FC Summer 2008 Thread

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    Post by lrdsucksgoats Fri Apr 25, 2008 7:18 am

    Hlebtastic wrote:Have we got the most injury prone/unreliable squad of the big 4 in England?

    No.

    Two of our 1st choice players(rosicky and RVP) are always out injured and the other squad players are always either injured or suspended when u need them.

    Whatever happened to Robin 'the Rapist who "can only get better"' Van Persie?

    If your squad was bigger (and you were one of those saying it was fine at the start of the season) then you'd be able to cope with a handful of injuries without having to blame bad luck or injury proneness. Blame Wenger, he bought all these crocks.
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    Post by lrdsucksgoats Fri Apr 25, 2008 7:18 am

    Hlebadinho wrote:
    Ray Parlour wrote:Barazite!

    Wilshere!

    Wiltard!
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    Post by Hlebagone Fri Apr 25, 2008 7:21 am

    Yoda wrote:
    Hlebadinho wrote:
    Ray Parlour wrote:Barazite!

    Wilshere!

    Wiltard!

    Not sure where you're going with this one.
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    Post by lrdsucksgoats Fri Apr 25, 2008 7:28 am

    Hlebadinho wrote:
    Yoda wrote:
    Hlebadinho wrote:
    Ray Parlour wrote:Barazite!

    Wilshere!

    Wiltard!

    Not sure where you're going with this one.



    Oooooooh!
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    Post by fcb Fri Apr 25, 2008 12:34 pm

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    Fabianski

    Hoyte-Toure-Senderos - Clichy

    Walcott-Denilson - Gilberto - Traore

    Bentdner- VanP

    Might just get away with this at Derby Erm

    Meanwhile I hope Flamini is being kept locked in a dark room without food or water until he signs a new contract.


    Why no Adebayor?
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    Post by Cesc Soler Fri Apr 25, 2008 2:00 pm

    Flamini Rejects Juve For Milan – Report

    According to the Gazzetta dello Sport, Arsenal midfielder Matthieu Flamini has rejected Juventus in order to sign for AC Milan.

    It has been looking increasingly likely for quite sometime now that Flamini will be leaving the Emirates Stadium at the end of the season.

    The 24-year-old, who is regarded as one of Europe’s best defensive midfielders, has not signed an extension to his Arsenal contract that runs out in June, and his manager Arsene Wenger has now given up hope of keeping him.

    Juventus and Milan are the two main teams tussling for his signature, and it had been the former who were believed to be in pole position.

    However the Gazzetta is this morning reporting that Milan have beaten Juve to the finishing line.

    It seems the main factor in the player’s decision may have been the salary offer. While Milan’s Adriano Galliani offered €4m-a-year for the player, Juventus transfer chief Alessio Secco was only prepared to give him €3m.

    Flamini will sign a five-year contract at San Siro, and could be the first building block of a new, exciting Milan team.

    Juventus President Giovanni Cobolli Gigli confirmed yesterday that the club had lost out in the race to sign Flamini.

    When asked if the Frenchman would be arriving in Turin, Gigli’s one-word reply was “no”.

    http://www.goal.com/en/articolo.aspx?contenutoid=672228
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    Post by Parks lives Fri Apr 25, 2008 2:07 pm

    Bad news for Arsenal if true.

    Cesc wrote:
    The 24-year-old, who is regarded as one of Europe’s best defensive midfielders

    Very Happy

    Had to laugh at this bit though. As good as he's been this season, it has only been one season. You can't label people the best in Europe on the back of that!
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    Post by The-Frank-Tavern Fri Apr 25, 2008 2:08 pm

    liverpool fans do re torres but thats ok
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    Post by Parks lives Fri Apr 25, 2008 2:12 pm

    Thouth you'd understand Frank.
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    Post by Cesc Soler Fri Apr 25, 2008 2:16 pm

    Parks lives wrote:Bad news for Arsenal if true.

    Cesc wrote:
    The 24-year-old, who is regarded as one of Europe’s best defensive midfielders

    Very Happy

    Had to laugh at this bit though. As good as he's been this season, it has only been one season. You can't label people the best in Europe on the back of that!
    I agree that a player cannot be labelled as one of the best on the back of one season. Its the fact he has been brilliant all season and formed a fantastic relationship with the other midfielders, yet it all looks certain to be broken up. Its like a step forward, only to go back again after no time.

    I don't blame him, he owes us nothing. Its one of the best club sides in the world and a substantial wage packet. Hopefully we can find a suitable replacement, I have no idea who at this moment in time.
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    Post by The-Frank-Tavern Fri Apr 25, 2008 2:16 pm

    Parks lives wrote:Thouth you'd understand Frank.
    he's done v well this season no doubt and ok he did ok at LB in the ECL final season BUT who honestly pre-season thought he'd be such a hugely important factor in their season, certainly not wenger a12 months ago as otherwise he'd have tied him down then, cos he didn't flamini wasn't sure he was wanted. indeed if i remember correctly, wenger all but said he could leave this time last year but he didn't for whatever reason clearly impressed pre-season and won a place in the side and played v well to keep it, but one of the best in europe? although v promising if he can keep up his form and well worth buying
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    Post by Parks lives Fri Apr 25, 2008 2:18 pm

    Cesc wrote:
    Parks lives wrote:Bad news for Arsenal if true.

    Cesc wrote:
    The 24-year-old, who is regarded as one of Europe’s best defensive midfielders

    Very Happy

    Had to laugh at this bit though. As good as he's been this season, it has only been one season. You can't label people the best in Europe on the back of that!
    I agree that a player cannot be labelled as one of the best on the back of one season. Its the fact he has been brilliant all season and formed a fantastic relationship with the other midfielders, yet it all looks certain to be broken up. Its like a step forward, only to go back again after no time.

    I don't blame him, he owes us nothing. Its one of the best club sides in the world and a substantial wage packet. Hopefully we can find a suitable replacement, I have no idea who at this moment in time.

    Did you have any buy back option with Diarra?
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    Post by Cesc Soler Fri Apr 25, 2008 2:26 pm

    No. It wouldn't happen anyway as Wenger never re-signs former players, he could have moved for Anelka when Henry left but decided against it. I'm not sure Diarra's attitude is what we want at the moment.

    On the subject of former players, I am led to believe that we would recieve 25% of any future fee for David Bentley. Hopefully Liverpool and Chelsea have a bidding war this summer.
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    Post by Sheffield gunner Fri Apr 25, 2008 3:13 pm

    If Flamini has left because of wages then I will be seriously annoyed with our board. Gilberto is meant to be on £70,000 a week, why not sell him and use his wages for Flamini? All this talk about strict wage structures is rubbish, we spend a lot on wages so it's hardly as if they operate on a tiny budget in this regard. The cost of replacing Flamini will outweigh any wage increases for him, and for the sake of £10,000 it's not worth haggling if the consequence is that our team is depleted and we end up in a weaker position than we started. The bastards have increased season ticket prices again for next season, it would be nice to see some of it invested in the football side of things. Perhaps they would be wise to consider how long people will keep paying when they are prepared to let key players leave to the detriment of the playing squad.
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    Post by Cesc Soler Fri Apr 25, 2008 3:22 pm

    Isn't there an AGM coming up with a Q&A to Wenger and Edelman from the shareholders and representative groups? That would be interesting, as I am sure many people will want answers in the handling of certain situations.

    Money is a huge factor, but there are others as well. I'm sure it still hurts Flamini that he was pushed towards the door last summer only for his own persistance to scupper any deal to Birmingham City or Sunderland.
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    Post by The-Frank-Tavern Fri Apr 25, 2008 3:30 pm

    the AGM is in August normally
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    Post by Sheffield gunner Fri Apr 25, 2008 3:31 pm

    There are quite a few disatisfied people at the moment from what I hear at the ground, although everyone keeps paying the increases and even if they didn't there are thousands more to take their place so I doubt the club cares one bit.

    I don't blame Flamini at all. Fair play to him if he does get a better deal at a club like Milan. He owes us little because, as you say, we were happy to let him go last season. Now that he has emerged as such a vital player it should be up to our board to convince him to stay, and I've had the impression all season that their attitude has been a bit more arrogant, a case of take it or leave it. They certainly don't seem to have done enough to suggest to Flamini that he is really valued here. It's a dangerous game to play, because he will not be easy to replace and how are we meant to develop as a squad when important players leave every summer?
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    Post by DS Fri Apr 25, 2008 3:33 pm

    Get Toulalan yes he would be very costly but time to spend.
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    Post by Hlebagone Fri Apr 25, 2008 4:02 pm

    DS wrote:Get Toulalan yes he would be very costly but time to spend.

    Think we may need to. It's not a direct replacement but i think him and Cesc would work.
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    Post by Black Magic Fri Apr 25, 2008 4:13 pm

    DS wrote:Get Toulalan yes he would be very costly but time to spend.

    But I want Flamini! *Stamps feet in Anger*
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    Post by lrdsucksgoats Fri Apr 25, 2008 4:21 pm

    Flamini, possibly Arsenal's player of the season and certainly their surprise success of the season may well be leaving because Wenger couldn't make up his mind whether Flamini was good enough.

    Yet Eboue, a c**t of the highest order and a convicted terrorist and purse snatcher who isn't good enough and has a terrible attitude appears to be staying because Wenger has made up his mind that he is good enough.

    All managers get a little eccentric after a while, but this really takes the cake. Wenger's greatest talent is his transfer strategy, so his natural position would be as director of football. I seriously think for Arsenal to go forward they need to shift Wenger upstairs somewhat and get in a manager capable of taking a fresh look at the squad and seeing the holes and problems.
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    Post by Cesc Soler Fri Apr 25, 2008 4:57 pm

    Bacary Sagna is ruled out for the rest of the season. Eboue or Hoyte for the last three games then.
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    Post by Rosicky Fri Apr 25, 2008 5:17 pm

    Yoda wrote:

    Yet Eboue, a c**t of the highest order and a convicted terrorist and purse snatcher who isn't good enough and has a terrible attitude appears to be staying because Wenger has made up his mind that he is good enough.


    <Ale>

    and he hasnt scored a goal all season, which is fucking awful considering he plays right wing in most of his games. so if you think hlebs goal scoring record is bad....
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    Post by Juligen Fri Apr 25, 2008 7:18 pm

    BM™️ wrote:
    DS wrote:Get Toulalan yes he would be very costly but time to spend.

    But I want Flamini! *Stamps feet in Anger*

    You are not getting him baby cheers cheers cheers
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    Post by Cesc Soler Sat Apr 26, 2008 12:44 am

    Fabianski set to stake his claim at Derby

    Lukasz Fabianski is primed to make his Premiership debut at Derby on Monday.

    Arsène Wenger has all three goalkeepers fit and available but he may choose to hand out some valuable experience to the 23-year-old Polish international.

    Until now, the summer signing from Legia Warsaw has been restricted to Carling Cup appearances. He excelled early on in the competition but let in five goals as Arsenal crashed out to Tottenham in the Semi-Final second leg at White Hart Lane. If Fabianski does not debut at Derby it seems he will get a chance at some point in the final three games of the campaign.

    "I’ve not made a decision yet about who will play but I will have a look at Fabianski [before] the end of the season," said Wenger at Friday's press conference. "It could be Monday, I don’t know yet.

    "For me he’s class. He understands football, reads the game well and is quick. He is technically good with good co-ordination and has a good connection with the team."

    In fact Wenger's faith in Fabianski is so solid that he does not intend to bring in another stopper if Jens Lehmann leaves in the summer. The German is out of contract in June.

    "At the moment I say no [to another keeper]," he said. "[It depends] how well Fabianski does if I play him. But, on that front, I’m not especially worried.”
    Doh
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    Post by TheCrazy58 Sat Apr 26, 2008 9:44 am

    Cesc wrote:
    Flamini Rejects Juve For Milan – Report

    According to the Gazzetta dello Sport, Arsenal midfielder Matthieu Flamini has rejected Juventus in order to sign for AC Milan.

    It has been looking increasingly likely for quite sometime now that Flamini will be leaving the Emirates Stadium at the end of the season.

    The 24-year-old, who is regarded as one of Europe’s best defensive midfielders, has not signed an extension to his Arsenal contract that runs out in June, and his manager Arsene Wenger has now given up hope of keeping him.

    Juventus and Milan are the two main teams tussling for his signature, and it had been the former who were believed to be in pole position.

    However the Gazzetta is this morning reporting that Milan have beaten Juve to the finishing line.

    It seems the main factor in the player’s decision may have been the salary offer. While Milan’s Adriano Galliani offered €4m-a-year for the player, Juventus transfer chief Alessio Secco was only prepared to give him €3m.

    Flamini will sign a five-year contract at San Siro, and could be the first building block of a new, exciting Milan team.

    Juventus President Giovanni Cobolli Gigli confirmed yesterday that the club had lost out in the race to sign Flamini.

    When asked if the Frenchman would be arriving in Turin, Gigli’s one-word reply was “no”.

    http://www.goal.com/en/articolo.aspx?contenutoid=672228

    ''Arsenal offered midfield player Flamini, 23, a final, take-it-or-leave-it contract offer this week worth an improved £55,000 per week, with Wenger telling his compatriot that he has until the end of the month in which to decide whether or not to accept''

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/main.jhtml?view=DETAILS&grid=A1YourView&xml=/sport/2008/04/25/ufnars125.xml

    What'll they do with Gattuso anyway? I may be wrong but I think Flams will stay - he has more to lose bar money (I know, I know...) by leaving. Hleb I'm less sure about.


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    Post by TheCrazy58 Sat Apr 26, 2008 9:45 am

    kas wrote:
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    Fabianski

    Hoyte-Toure-Senderos - Clichy

    Walcott-Denilson - Gilberto - Traore

    Bentdner- VanP

    Might just get away with this at Derby Erm

    Meanwhile I hope Flamini is being kept locked in a dark room without food or water until he signs a new contract.

    Why no Adebayor?

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    Post by Sheffield gunner Sat Apr 26, 2008 10:44 am

    Cesc wrote:

    In fact Wenger's faith in Fabianski is so solid that he does not intend to bring in another stopper if Jens Lehmann leaves in the summer. The German is out of contract in June.

    "At the moment I say no [to another keeper]," he said. "[It depends] how well Fabianski does if I play him. But, on that front, I’m not especially worried.”
    Doh

    I seriously hope he is lying about this, because he isn't always entirely truthful when it comes to transfers, but I'm extremely concerned that he isn't. I would almost prefer Fabianski to have a nightmare just to try and force Wenger to see that we need a new goalkeeper, but he would probably only sign an unknown anyway.

    All our rivals will strengthen heavily this summer, and I have so little faith in Wenger to do the same at the moment, it's really worrying. He seems so myopic about our faults currently, and maybe he is just saying these things to reassure the current squad of players, but considering the lack of investment in crucial areas of the squad in recent seasons I'm not convinced.
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    Post by The-Frank-Tavern Sat Apr 26, 2008 11:10 am

    there woud appear to be some decent youngsters in the background coming through and i'm sure hes worried about signing players that may hinder their progress to first team action BUT if he's not careful, it'll be a case of always next year we'll get it right. however, the big name player like cesc wont wait around for ever. if he's not careful he'll just be providing a conveyor belt of talent for the top italian and spanish clubs
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    Post by The-Frank-Tavern Mon Apr 28, 2008 8:53 am

    sorry lads had to cancel Merida watch on Saturday night, he didn't play v Malaga

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