Arsenal FC Summer 2008 Thread

Fidel wrote:

Cesc Soler wrote:In terms of a single payment it is Sylvain Wiltord for £13m in 2000.

16 for Eduardo, no?

12mil Euros

TheCrazy58 wrote:

Fidel wrote:

Cesc Soler wrote:In terms of a single payment it is Sylvain Wiltord for £13m in 2000.

16 for Eduardo, no?

12mil Euros

Prove it.

Prove 16mil. Don't be silly.

TheCrazy58 wrote:Prove 16mil. Don't be silly.

Praytell, o blinkered one, how is it silly to cite one figure over another when none of us really know, and when the press has been more than a little ambiguous about it?

Fidel wrote:

TheCrazy58 wrote:Prove 16mil. Don't be silly.

Praytell, o blinkered one, how is it silly to cite one figure over another when none of us really know, and when the press has been more than a little ambiguous about it?

That's exactly why it's silly, nobody knows. and it's complete a waste of time arguing about who is wrong or right. I was merely citing a different number I saw.

TheCrazy58 wrote:

Fidel wrote:

TheCrazy58 wrote:Prove 16mil. Don't be silly.

Praytell, o blinkered one, how is it silly to cite one figure over another when none of us really know, and when the press has been more than a little ambiguous about it?

That's exactly why it's silly, nobody knows. and it's complete a waste of time arguing about who is wrong or right. I was merely citing a different number I saw.

So was I, and you 'corrected' me. Why did you do this if doing such a thing is, in your own word, 'silly'?


We can keep going round in these circles, but once again you cannot have it both ways. I know having a casuist hypocrite for a manager might make you think you can, but you can't.

Fidel wrote:

TheCrazy58 wrote:

Fidel wrote:

TheCrazy58 wrote:Prove 16mil. Don't be silly.

Praytell, o blinkered one, how is it silly to cite one figure over another when none of us really know, and when the press has been more than a little ambiguous about it?

That's exactly why it's silly, nobody knows. and it's complete a waste of time arguing about who is wrong or right. I was merely citing a different number I saw.

So was I, and you 'corrected' me. Why did you do this if doing such a thing is, in your own word, 'silly'?


We can keep going round in these circles, but once again you cannot have it both ways. I know having a casuist hypocrite for a manager might make you think you can, but you can't.

Sigh - I did not 'correct' you. I merely cited a different figure, like I said. I did not say you are wrong and you have to agree with me, right? There's no need for this. Chill a bit mate.

http://football365.com/story/0,17033,8652_3576113,00.html

Even more bizarre from Arsenal if the above is true...so they ask him to prove himself (despite already sacrificing his natural game and doing well at LB the season before), he does so quite spectacularly, and yet they are unwilling to reward him

kas wrote:http://football365.com/story/0,17033,8652_3576113,00.html

Even more bizarre from Arsenal if the above is true...so they ask him to prove himself (despite already sacrificing his natural game and doing well at LB the season before), he does so quite spectacularly, and yet they are unwilling to reward him

Flams was on a minimum salary of 5k pw and was offered 60 or 65k, which is same as what Fabregas is getting. I know we didn't handle it very well but it's not quite true to say we weren't willing to do so. The full interview (in The Sun of course) is a bit contradictory. He says it wasn't about money but then harps on about not being offered it. We do understand that 77k pw net plus a stonking signing on fee, which is what Milan gave him, is somewhat more attractive than 65k so he doesn't need to belabour the point/

We've been linked with Nasri today. Its a logical rumour to make up so it could have some truth in it

I'd like to see Nasri at the Emirates, even if this season hasnt been quite as good as last season.

Hlebadinho wrote:We've been linked with Nasri today. Its a logical rumour to make up so it could have some truth in it

I'd like to see Nasri at the Emirates, even if this season hasnt been quite as good as last season.

If he moves to you I will cry

Luis wrote:

Hlebadinho wrote:We've been linked with Nasri today. Its a logical rumour to make up so it could have some truth in it

I'd like to see Nasri at the Emirates, even if this season hasnt been quite as good as last season.

If he moves to you I will cry

Well we can only hope.

Luis wrote:

Hlebadinho wrote:We've been linked with Nasri today. Its a logical rumour to make up so it could have some truth in it

I'd like to see Nasri at the Emirates, even if this season hasnt been quite as good as last season.

If he moves to you I will cry

Awesome! Now two reasons to want it to happen.

Cesc Fabregas and Gael Clichy are both set to sign new contracts at Arsenal, according to reports.

The young Spaniard has been the subject of constant rumours surrounding his future at the club, with Barcelona and Real Madrid consistently sniffing around the midfielder.

However, The Daily Telegraph reports that Fabregas is set to sign a new deal, despite being only two years into an eight-year agreement signed in 2006.

The new deal is reportedly worth around £100,000-a-week, almost doubling his current £60,000-a-week contract.

Fears increased that Fabregas might choose to leave the Emirates Stadium after Mathieu Flamini signed for AC Milan, and Alex Hleb made his intentions to move to Italy clear earlier this week.

Fabregas's new contract seemingly breaks Arsenal's famous wage-structure, that they were unwilling to breach to secure the future of Flamini, showing their determination to keep him at the club.

Clichy is expected to put pen to paper on a new deal that will commit him to the club until 2012, extending his current deal by two years.

Clichy said: "We're at the end of our discussions. Everything's going well because my intention is clear: I want to stay at Arsenal. I would love to have a career here like Patrick Vieira or Thierry Henry, to stay many years at Arsenal and leave my mark on the club. I've been in London for five years. If everything goes well I will stay here for at least eight years."

Clichy's current contract expires in 2010 and he added: "We're talking about a further two years. It's a superb plan to throw yourself into the future with this group here. I never hesitated, not at all. Arsenal is one of the great clubs in Europe."

Cesc Soler wrote:In terms of a single payment it is Sylvain Wiltord for £13m in 2000. However the Jose Antonio Reyes deal in early 2004 was said to be worth £17.5m, the initial fee was £10.5m. It is unknown at whether any of the conditional payments were met.

Paulo Barbosa (his agent) has said that two clubs are close to meeting the players buyout valuation set at £20m.

I'm unsure if we are one of the clubs to be honest, over the last few years we have become a club that is constantly linked with transfer speculation due to the rebuilding of the squad. Having said that I think he would fit the bill to complement Fabregas, another player I would like is Toulalan.

Will Man Utd have a say where he ends up assuming they don't make a bid for him? I know you have a strong partnership.

Voloso's buyout is actually £23m. Moutinho's is the one with the £20m buyout.

I think he and Fabregas would be a great partnership, both have very good skills on the ball, with Fabregas being the much quicker of the two and more likely to score goals. I don't want Veloso to leave obviously, but I do think he would fit in at Arsenal.

I would be seriously outraged if Utd did have something to do with where any of our players are transfered to. Sporting isn't in any way a satelite club of their's, they've simply brought in some of our players just like any other club could have done, and as such I would expect the current board to step-down if that were ever to be found true.

Yes, we apparently have a good relationship with Utd, it doesn't serve us much but rather them, but that doesn't mean they should have us by the balls. I don't think Utd have room for him, unless they ship out Carrick, and as such Sporting should sell, if the buyout is reached forcing them to sell, to however puts forward more cash. If that's Arsenal, then he goes to Arsenal. Manchester hasn't done us any favours, so we own them none in return.

@ Luso - I was thinking more De Rossi, Aquilani and Veloso in the away games for Roma next season. :jizz:

Also, Antunes played his starting debut last week and he was frggin awesome. MOTM by a mile. Don't think we need a new LB now.

Sorry buddy, but I think Veloso will want to go to a 'big' club

Roma's more of an Italian Boavista

He has always said he's a fan of Real Madrid...

Luso wrote:Sorry buddy, but I think Veloso will want to go to a 'big' club

Roma's more of an Italian Boavista

He has always said he's a fan of Real Madrid...

Harsh. I wasn't serious, it was a mere dream, I'm a fan of Veloso. Roma can't afford to buy a £20m DM. We'll probably end up getting Vince Grella or something.

Roma is a big club buddy, not a Real Madrid obviously, but certainly a big club.

FORZA GIALLOBLU!!! wrote:

Luso wrote:Sorry buddy, but I think Veloso will want to go to a 'big' club

Roma's more of an Italian Boavista

He has always said he's a fan of Real Madrid...

Harsh. I wasn't serious, it was a mere dream, I'm a fan of Veloso. Roma can't afford to buy a £20m DM. We'll probably end up getting Vince Grella or something.

Roma is a big club buddy, not a Real Madrid obviously, but certainly a big club.

I know

Roma is actually rather large in a European sense and not just an Italian one. I really don't think you can compair a Newcastle to it for example, despite their own large stadium and following, Roma is much bigger, their title challenges (and victories) part of the proof.

I'd say Roma is comparible with a club like Valencia; can win the title on its year and with some very quality players in its squad fight for European glory, with some luck. Really, it's the kind of club I don't like lossing to as I feel we should be near your level, but always with a massive financial disadvantage, as we're big fish in our little pond.

Based on Roma's style of play though, it would seem like a good place for Veloso to make his mark.

FORZA GIALLOBLU!!! wrote:
Also, Antunes played his starting debut last week and he was frggin awesome. MOTM by a mile. Don't think we need a new LB now.

Which still makes me wonder why no one in Portugal picked this kid up. Sporting were reported as being interested, and then he signed for Roma, a big foreign club.

With all the problems Sporting has had at LB, and Portugal as well, I'm not sure how this kid went from tiny P. Ferreira right on over to Roma

Luso wrote:

FORZA GIALLOBLU!!! wrote:

Luso wrote:Sorry buddy, but I think Veloso will want to go to a 'big' club

Roma's more of an Italian Boavista

He has always said he's a fan of Real Madrid...

Harsh. I wasn't serious, it was a mere dream, I'm a fan of Veloso. Roma can't afford to buy a £20m DM. We'll probably end up getting Vince Grella or something.

Roma is a big club buddy, not a Real Madrid obviously, but certainly a big club.

I know

Roma is actually rather large in a European sense and not just an Italian one. I really don't think you can compare a Newcastle to it for example, despite their own large stadium and following, Roma is much bigger, their title challenges (and victories) part of the proof.

I'd say Roma is comparible with a club like Valencia; can win the title on its year and with some very quality players in its squad fight for European glory, with some luck. Really, it's the kind of club I don't like lossing to as I feel we should be near your level, but always with a massive financial disadvantage, as we're big fish in our little pond.

Based on Roma's style of play though, it would seem like a good place for Veloso to make his mark.

Roma have always been one of the top 4 teams in Serie A, financially, the fanbase and the club history and prestige. In a league that was the best in the world for a very long time. Don't forget that Roma were once able to wave a blank cheque in front of anyone it pleased - Batistuta was bought for what was then a record fee of £26m. One of the highest wage bills in Europe back then with the one of the most expensive defences in World Football - Cafu, Candela, Samuel and the club legend Aldair, a guy like Panucci had to sit on the bench or play in the games Cafu was played in the midfield. We are definitely paying for the recklace spending in the late 90's and early millennium now though - Spalletti has taken this team to second in Serie A with only a net spending of 16m Euros in the transfer market. Things are getting back on track though, merchandise is sky high and Roma were the 11th most profitable club in 2007.

I'm just talking about a few years ago - Don't even need to mention the glory days of Falcao and Voller in the 80's.

A Marseille based paper is reporting that we've agreed 17m euros transfer fee for Samir Nasri.

Great news if true.

Arshavin and Ben Arfa next please.

http://www.laprovence.com/articles/2008/05/18/451170-FRANCE-Le-cadeau-de-Nasri-et-Cisse.php

The original link is here.

The lessons in the past from Ribery & Malouda show that speculation is nothing until the player puts pen to paper.

If he was available for £13.5m, I would snap him up immediately.

Cesc Soler wrote:http://www.laprovence.com/articles/2008/05/18/451170-FRANCE-Le-cadeau-de-Nasri-et-Cisse.php

The original link is here.
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Yep that's it

Hope this deal is completed as soon as possible.

How reliable is the paper? It wouldn't be a surprise to see a deal made out of nowhere, but I'm still reluctant to put too much faith in newspaper articles.

If you sign Nasri then do you think Wenger will play him LM/LCM?

i think he will, so i can't see you signing Nasri and Ben Arfa because Ben Arfa would also play LM/LF.

Some good news for you from the BBC's gossip column:

Roma midfielder Alberto Aquilani is discussing a possible move with Arsenal. (Setanta Sports, 0950 BST)

Dont think he will work with Cesc , he is a playmaker not a defensive midfielder.

Well, Hleb needs replacing. Cesc needs some cover. Rosicky needs replacing when he's injured every other month.

So this may not necessarily be the DM signing.

Still links with Makoun, he'd probably be the DM.