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    Post by Hlebagone Mon May 19, 2008 12:15 pm

    Parks lives wrote:Still links with Makoun, he'd probably be the DM.

    Amusingly, Song kept Makoun out of the starting line up for the ACoN.

    I think nasri would play left midfield, regardless as to whether Hleb leaves or not. If Rosicky is fit, he can be rotated with him. If Hleb does leave, i would like one more player for the wings (Arshavin).

    The Aquilani quotes seem to come from his agent, lending them a bit of credibility could he play in centre mid or on the wings in the prem? Havent seen him enough. What do you reckon BM?
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    Post by lrdsucksgoats Mon May 19, 2008 12:25 pm

    Hlebadinho wrote:
    Parks lives wrote:Still links with Makoun, he'd probably be the DM.

    Amusingly, Song kept Makoun out of the starting line up for the ACoN.


    Amusingly, Theo Walcott kept Jermaine Defoe out of the 2006 England WC squad.


    All this proves is how stupid managers can be in picking promising but utterly unproven players ahead of experienced and talented ones.
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    Post by The-Frank-Tavern Mon May 19, 2008 12:26 pm

    although defoe is a c**t so its OK
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    Post by Hlebagone Mon May 19, 2008 12:26 pm

    Fidel wrote:
    Hlebadinho wrote:
    Parks lives wrote:Still links with Makoun, he'd probably be the DM.

    Amusingly, Song kept Makoun out of the starting line up for the ACoN.


    Amusingly, Theo Walcott kept Jermaine Defoe out of the 2006 England WC squad.


    All this proves is how stupid managers can be in picking promising but utterly unproven players ahead of experienced and talented ones.

    Probably not for Jermain Defoe.

    Song did at least play well, and only started to play in the DM role after Makoun was underwhelming in the first game.
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    Post by lrdsucksgoats Mon May 19, 2008 12:31 pm

    Hlebadinho wrote:
    Probably not for Jermain Defoe.

    Well, regardless of who it was for, they'd proven a lot more in the previous 6 months than Walcott had playing for Arsenal's reserves.

    Song did at least play well, and only started to play in the DM role after Makoun was underwhelming in the first game.

    Song did do well, until injury ruined his last game of the tournament. But that doesn't make him a better player than one of the best DMs in Europe.
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    Post by Hlebagone Mon May 19, 2008 2:07 pm

    Fidel wrote:
    Hlebadinho wrote:
    Probably not for Jermain Defoe.

    Well, regardless of who it was for, they'd proven a lot more in the previous 6 months than Walcott had playing for Arsenal's reserves.

    Song did at least play well, and only started to play in the DM role after Makoun was underwhelming in the first game.

    Song did do well, until injury ruined his last game of the tournament. But that doesn't make him a better player than one of the best DMs in Europe.

    Do you rate Makoun then and think he'd be a good signing for us? Does his play similarly to Flamini or is he more of a DLP?
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    Post by The Pröfessör Mon May 19, 2008 2:23 pm

    There's no point buying Makoun when we've already got Song.

    Makoun is a player who'll just win the ball and pass it, he doesn't have Flamini's engine. Song can do all what he does + he's better in the air and far more of a creative passer. If only Song Billong had Flamini's workrate...but again probably nobody does.
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    Post by The Pröfessör Mon May 19, 2008 2:30 pm

    Batman wrote:If you sign Nasri then do you think Wenger will play him LM/LCM?

    i think he will, so i can't see you signing Nasri and Ben Arfa because Ben Arfa would also play LM/LF.

    They are totally different players, so I don't see why not.

    Nasri is more of a possession keeping player and a creator while Ben Arfa is more of a Cristiano ronaldo player; he does take up similar position in the attacking 3rd as Ronaldo and can strike the ball well(even with his weaker foot).

    I reckon Ben Arfa will be a very prolific player in the future.
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    Post by lrdsucksgoats Mon May 19, 2008 2:55 pm

    Hlebadinho wrote:
    Do you rate Makoun then and think he'd be a good signing for us? Does his play similarly to Flamini or is he more of a DLP?

    Ignoring what Agooner has said since he's clearly clueless (Makoun has a good engine and Ben Arfa looks a worse player than he did 2 years ago), I think Makoun's an excellent player and he'd be a wonderful signing for Arsenal. He's not quite as energetic as Flamini but passes the ball better and I think he's make a natural partner for Fabregas.
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    Post by Cesc Soler Tue May 20, 2008 12:06 am

    Inventory of players linked with a summer Arsenal move:

    Goalkeepers:

    Heurelho Gomes
    Sebastian Frey

    Defenders:

    Raul Albiol
    Richard Dunne
    Vincent Kompany
    Carlos Marchena
    Richard Dunne
    Mahamadou Dabo
    Maxwell

    Midfielders:

    Jean II Makoun
    Hatem Ben Arfa
    Michael Johnson
    Niko Kranjcar
    Gareth Barry
    Samir Nasri
    Alberto Aquilini
    Ignacio Camacho
    Aaron Ramsey
    Alberto Aquilani
    Loic Perrin
    Diego Ribas

    Strikers:

    Mario Gomez
    Thierry Henry
    Obafemi Martins
    Mauro Zarate
    Santa Cruz
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    Post by DS Tue May 20, 2008 7:01 am

    Gilberto: United not better than Arsenal








    Arsenal FC Summer 2008 Thread - Page 26 VHuLnnGyL
    By Jonathan Chong on Monday, May 19, 2008




    Midfielder
    Gilberto Silva is adamant that champions Manchester United are not
    better than Arsenal, who finished four points behind them in the league.
    The
    Gunners had led the league for most of the season and fell away at the
    end, allowing United and Chelsea to slip through and contest the league
    title on the final day of the season.
    But the Brazilian World Cup winner is adamant that his side deserved to be league champions.
    He
    said: "Overall you cannot say that Manchester United were the best
    team. What made the difference were the last results and they finished
    in a better position.
    "We know our quality and what we are
    capable of. We are stronger than them and next year we need to do much
    better than what we did this season.
    "We will enjoy our holidays and think about what we have done and come back next year even stronger.
    "We
    were very close in the league but things happened to us which were very
    difficult and that is why we lost first position in the league."
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    Post by Black Magic Tue May 20, 2008 5:24 pm

    Hlebadinho wrote:
    Parks lives wrote:Still links with Makoun, he'd probably be the DM.

    Amusingly, Song kept Makoun out of the starting line up for the ACoN.

    I think nasri would play left midfield, regardless as to whether Hleb leaves or not. If Rosicky is fit, he can be rotated with him. If Hleb does leave, i would like one more player for the wings (Arshavin).

    The Aquilani quotes seem to come from his agent, lending them a bit of credibility could he play in centre mid or on the wings in the prem? Havent seen him enough. What do you reckon BM?

    He CANNOT play on the wing, or out wide at all. The classical CM who is also more than capable of playing behind the stiker. I doubt he'd ever come to England, he has never mentioned it. (Has however mentioned that he'd be flattered to play at Mardid and Milan) He only has a couple of years left in his contract so hopefully for my sake this is just a technique his agent is using to get an improved new contract at Roma.
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    Post by Hlebagone Tue May 20, 2008 5:30 pm

    Doesn;t really make sense then... He couldn't play with Fabregas in the centre.

    Does anyone else ever wonder what they would have achieved with their life if they didn't waste time speculating about transfers?
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    Post by Black Magic Tue May 20, 2008 5:34 pm

    Hlebadinho wrote:Doesn;t really make sense then... He couldn't play with Fabregas in the centre.


    He has probably never gotten close to the touchline in his career, let alone play on the wing. CM in the Primavera team, CM for Roma, CM for Italy. But a damn good CM atleast. Biggrin <Ale>
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    Post by Tweesus Tue May 20, 2008 6:02 pm

    Aquilani is a physios wet dream anyway. wouldn't want to sign him. He'd become good friends with Rosicky, RVP and Diaby though
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    Post by Football Genius Tue May 20, 2008 6:46 pm

    Tweedle wrote:Aquilani is a physios wet dream anyway. wouldn't want to sign him. He'd become good friends with Rosicky, RVP and Diaby though

    Who / what sort of player(s) would you like to see Wenger bring in this season? a couple of astute (doesn't mean cheap - could be experience this particular summer) and theres no reason to think you'd be anything but serious contenders again...
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    Post by Cesc Soler Wed May 21, 2008 12:41 am

    Information L'Equipe: Samir Nasri jouera à Arsenal la saison prochaine. Le jeune meneur formé à l'OM pourrait même signer son contrat en faveur des Gunners avant de retrouver l'équipe de France à Clairefontaine, ce mercredi à 19h30, au moment où débutera le rassemblement des Bleus précédant l'Euro.

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    Les deux clubs, Marseille et Arsenal, se seraient mis d'accord sur une indemnité de transfert de 15 millions d'euros, révèle L'Equipe. Nasri, dont la saison a été marquée par plusieurs pépins physiques, notamment une méningite virale, avait prolongé son contrat jusqu'en 2012 avec l'idée sous-jacente de permettre à son club formateur d'empocher une belle indemnité de transfert.

    Il y aura passé quatre saisons, découvert la Ligue des champions, l'équipe de France, remporté le titre de meilleur espoir de L1 en 2007. A vingt ans, la carrière de celui que le Real Madrid considérait il y a un an comme le nouveau Zidane va s'accélérer.

    http://www.lequipe.fr/Football/20080521_001506_nasri-arsenal-c-est-boucle_Dev.html

    According to L'Equipe which one of the most reliable media sources in France, the Nasri deal is nearing completion.

    • He could sign by tomorrow evening before heading off to the French Euro 2008 training camp

    • The two clubs have arranged a €15m fee (£12m)

    • Apparently he has had an injury stricken season, he even had viral meningitis at one point

    • Real Madrid wanted him last season
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    Post by Historicus Wed May 21, 2008 1:51 am

    Where does he play? Isn't he the same type of player as Cesc?
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    Post by Romford Pele Wed May 21, 2008 9:04 am

    He can also play on the wing. Has alot of potential and has been branded the next Zidane. Look forward to him coming if true but as Saints said he is vastly unproven and isn't really prolific when it comes to goal scoring though can't be as bad as Hleb when he comes to shooting. Seen him score a few from range. Could his signing though spell the end for Hleb?

    We now have Hleb/Rosicky/Vela/Walcott/Eboue/Randall with also Eduardo and Diaby who can play wide.
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    Post by lrdsucksgoats Wed May 21, 2008 9:19 am

    Ray Parlour wrote:He can also play on the wing. Has alot of potential and has been branded the next Zidane. Look forward to him coming if true but as Saints said he is vastly unproven and isn't really prolific when it comes to goal scoring though can't be as bad as Hleb when he comes to shooting. Seen him score a few from range. Could his signing though spell the end for Hleb?

    We now have Hleb/Rosicky/Vela/Walcott/Eboue/Randall with also Eduardo and Diaby who can play wide.


    Except Rosicky's always injured, Randall has proven nothing, Eduardo can't play wide (and is injured) and Eboue is a c**t.

    I maintain, it is one of the weakest areas of your squad, with a mixture of crocks and youngsters and the only experienced one who isn't injured is incapable of scoring goals.
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    Post by Romford Pele Wed May 21, 2008 9:27 am

    Arguably yes although at least some of the unproven ones have shown signs of imrpoving. Walcott started putting in some quite decent performances at the end of the season and contributed a few goals from the wings as well. If he can continue his development next season with a few goals from the other midfielders to it shouldn't really make much of a difference. Most of our goals always come from the strikers anyway so as long as they keep getting the goals the lack of goals from midfield should not really be a problem.

    I do agree with you on the wide area front but not much that's going to be changed. We all know how stubborn Arsene is...
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    Post by lrdsucksgoats Wed May 21, 2008 9:35 am

    True, Walcott has shown some promise in the last two or three months of the season, but it is a problem area because Wenger either goes for headless pace merchants like Eboue or non scoring playmakers like Rosicky and Hleb.

    You say most of the goals come from the strikers, but Eduardo's and Van Persie can't be relied on to be fit next year, which essentially leaves Adebayor (one prolific season so far in his career) as the main focus for goals. Now, he could well prove capable of repeating this season's showing, but if he doesn't then you'll need someone to step up to the mark.
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    Post by Hlebagone Wed May 21, 2008 10:25 am

    Fidel wrote:
    Ray Parlour wrote:He can also play on the wing. Has alot of potential and has been branded the next Zidane. Look forward to him coming if true but as Saints said he is vastly unproven and isn't really prolific when it comes to goal scoring though can't be as bad as Hleb when he comes to shooting. Seen him score a few from range. Could his signing though spell the end for Hleb?

    We now have Hleb/Rosicky/Vela/Walcott/Eboue/Randall with also Eduardo and Diaby who can play wide.


    Except Rosicky's always injured, Randall has proven nothing, Eduardo can't play wide (and is injured) and Eboue is a c**t.

    I maintain, it is one of the weakest areas of your squad, with a mixture of crocks and youngsters and the only experienced one who isn't injured is incapable of scoring goals.

    I agree. I don;t want Walcott to be tied doqwn to one position and i dont really want him playing every game on the wing either, despite the improvements he's made. I'd only be happy with this is Hleb stays, if not, we should look to get Arshavin.
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    Post by fcb Wed May 21, 2008 10:34 am

    Nasri is basically the Hleb replacement.

    For the Flamini replacement, Wenger is apparently interested in some 22 year old, also French of course.

    And there's some 17 year old, Coquelin something, who has been on trial and will be offered a contract.
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    Post by Hlebagone Wed May 21, 2008 10:39 am

    kas wrote:Nasri is basically the Hleb replacement.

    That would appear logical, but i feel we would still lack depth on the wings. Eboue would end up playing about 20 games, which is 20 too many.
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    Post by Torrente Wed May 21, 2008 10:58 am

    There have been rumors in Madrid claiming that if Hleb leaves, it could facilitate Cesc's signing for us because allegedly, Flamini and Hleb are his best friends. Is it true that they are?

    Not saying that this automatically means Cesc would leave of course, but it could contribute to a potential departure if on top of that Wenger doesn't make any big signings.
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    Post by Black Magic Wed May 21, 2008 11:01 am

    Torrente wrote:There have been rumors in Madrid claiming that if Hleb leaves, it could facilitate Cesc's signing for us because allegedly, Flamini and Hleb are his best friends. Is it true that they are?

    Yes.

    Cesc won't leave though - My brain won't allow it.
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    Post by SuperMario Wed May 21, 2008 11:02 am

    Keep on dreaming Cesc is going nowhere. We just signed Nasri. Which I do consider a big signing and we have only just started.

    "This is number one & the fun has just begun..."
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    Post by Black Magic Wed May 21, 2008 11:10 am

    Sky sports reporting that we are about to announce a Triple French swoop! cheers

    Nasri, Benzema and Menez! cheers cheers cheers
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    Post by Romford Pele Wed May 21, 2008 11:12 am

    http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11670_3591228,00.html

    NO BM!

    Read the article two of them are unknown. This french guy for PSG sounds okay. Can anyone Arsenal frenchies shed some light on him?

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