Man City To Sack SGE

If they go out and get a better manager and some quality players they probably won't give a sh*t come August.

i agree with that parky but realistically, who? unless it mourinho who else would placate a big backlash

Shaun Goater

Parks lives wrote:If they go out and get a better manager and some quality players they probably won't give a sh*t come August.

Scolari and then Ronaldinho + a couple of others and everything would be hunky dory

Are there any more dour, BullFrog look-a-like Israelis out there than can come in and minimise the damage ?

Shinawatra is a head case, i've said it all along.

So basically Thaksin is another Romanov (the Hearts guy)

De Guzman wrote:So basically Thaksin is another Romanov (the Hearts guy)

Has Romanov committed genocide? If so then you have a point, if not then he's not in the same league of nuttyness.

De Guzman wrote:So basically Thaksin is another Romanov (the Hearts guy)

I dunno, Thaksin never wrote hate columns about the British press. Well, he hasn't as yet.

Thaskin, Romanov - your money or your sanity ?

'Good riddance to Sven!' - An e-mail read out from a Manchester City fan at approximately 10:55am this morning on Sky Sports News.

borocooper wrote:'Good riddance to Sven!' - An e-mail read out from a Manchester City fan at approximately 10:55am this morning on Sky Sports News.

Always knew Goater was fickle.

"We've not had a single e-mail or text this morning going against Sven" - Sky Sports News anchor Simon 'Blue Peter' Thomas at approximately 11.05am this morning.

Axeslammer wrote:

Sir Les wrote:SGE has done well in his first season.

Are you serious about that ?

He's done well in the first few matches, after that it wasn't much....taking into consideration the money they've spent he's done badly.

I bet half the members of the board would have done at least as well as Sven, given that amount of cash to spend

Here's an idea to fuel countless newspaper rumours. Saw it in the F365 mailbox...Sven to be next Chelsea manager?

Doubtful.

Man City can still inish 6th/7th...play attractive football...yet Sven isn't the right man for the job?

Some of the foreign chairmen are complete retards...

Axeslammer wrote:

Axeslammer wrote:

Sir Les wrote:SGE has done well in his first season.

Are you serious about that ?

He's done well in the first few matches, after that it wasn't much....taking into consideration the money they've spent he's done badly.

I bet half the members of the board would have done at least as well as Sven, given that amount of cash to spend

So after a few seasons of relegation battles...Sven takes Man City to do the double over their local rivals and have a chance of a 6th/7th finish place (the last time City finished there was???) by changing their boring 4-5-1 to an attractive attacking 4-4-2...yet you say he hasn't done a good job Honestly...

Sven has done a fantastic job - I'm worried for City now, if their owner is going to sack a manager who has greatly improved the teams league possition and turned them into an attacking side after just one season, how are they ever going to progress?

Depends who they appoint next. The media will of course certainly deride the situation and claim Sven deserved to have an extra year at least, along with the majority of fans throughout the country, while being terribly naive.

If a manager can't reach the peak of expectations, while the chairman has the money to chuck around, then a club can afford to give cash to a manager they perceive to be better and disregard stability in the short term. If the rumors about Scolari are true and the Brazilian entourage are to follow him, it's not hard to see why Sven's been ditched even if they are of the same managerial ability.

The most fustrating thing i would find as SGE or a City fan whom supported him - would be that the goal was set at the start of the season 'top 10 finish' to achieve this and some, to never have been given a revised target to realise what the owner wanted - how has SGE not delivered what has been asked for?

Dwarf wrote:Depends who they appoint next. The media will of course certainly deride the situation and claim Sven deserved to have an extra year at least, along with the majority of fans throughout the country, while being terribly naive.

If a manager can't reach the peak of expectations, while the chairman has the money to chuck around, then a club can afford to give cash to a manager they perceive to be better and disregard stability in the short term. If the rumors about Scolari are true and the Brazilian entourage are to follow him, it's not hard to see why Sven's been ditched even if they are of the same managerial ability.

of course they can afford to, but even on a short term scale: surely Sven with a year's experience is a better option than any manager coming in. new manager + a bunch of new players = another season of inconsistency. then what? repeat the process again until you get one lucky season where a new manager brings instant success?

it just stinks of some moron rich dude who is used to being able to get whatever he wants just by throwing his cash around, getting impatient because he wasn't able to buy success straight away.

Football Genius wrote:The most fustrating thing i would find as SGE or a City fan whom supported him - would be that the goal was set at the start of the season 'top 10 finish' to achieve this and some, to never have been given a revised target to realise what the owner wanted - how has SGE not delivered what has been asked for?

If the Chairman is setting an unrealistic goal, knowing full well the manager isn't likely to make it, he really doesn't want the public to know. The press will be constantly going on about the unrealistic nature of the target, while the fans will have no reason to support there manager once it becomes quite clear they won't reach the target. It made far more sense to lie than it ever did to tell the truth, sadly.

debaser wrote:
of course they can afford to, but even on a short term scale: surely Sven with a year's experience is a better option than any manager coming in. new manager a bunch of new players = another season of inconsistency. then what? repeat the process again until you get one lucky season where a new manager brings instant success?

it just stinks of some moron rich dude who is used to being able to get whatever he wants just by throwing his cash around, getting impatient because he wasn't able to buy success straight away.

You wait till you get a manager you truly believe will reach your ultimate expectation, then give him time. England had 3 managers in 6 years, before having 1 manager in 6 years, none of the managers appointed before were necessarily the wrong appointments, they just weren't the right appointment's in the long term.

Is anyone else worried that goater might have topped himself?

Tweedle wrote:Is anyone else worried that goater might have topped himself?

drunk himself into a coma, possibly.

Dwarf wrote:

Football Genius wrote:The most fustrating thing i would find as SGE or a City fan whom supported him - would be that the goal was set at the start of the season 'top 10 finish' to achieve this and some, to never have been given a revised target to realise what the owner wanted - how has SGE not delivered what has been asked for?

If the Chairman is setting an unrealistic goal, knowing full well the manager isn't likely to make it, he really doesn't want the public to know. The press will be constantly going on about the unrealistic nature of the target, while the fans will have no reason to support there manager once it becomes quite clear they won't reach the target. It made far more sense to lie than it ever did to tell the truth, sadly.

Of course it doesn't..... if that was the case what you are saying is the season was wrote off before it started, and Sven was fired before it started, thus should never have hired him in the first place - this makes absolutely no logical, business of footballing sense - so for me your way off here.

Absolutely ridiculous..... the reasons for Sven going will IMO never be unvailed but it cannot be in contempt for what he has delivered this season - after all the season isn't even bloody over yet.

Obviously more to this than meets the eye, perhaps Sven had more control (responsibility) than the owner realised initially and didn't / doesn't want to relenquish - this would fit his character better being a power hungry polititian

I fear for Man City. I think you'll may, eventually, be as comically run as Hearts.

All of these power-mad despots seem to cause chaos wherever they are. It is inherent to their existence!

Edit - What I'm implying is that guys who dream about power and wealth, like Shinawatra (sp?), court the antithesis of stability.

Football Genius wrote:

Dwarf wrote:

Football Genius wrote:The most fustrating thing i would find as SGE or a City fan whom supported him - would be that the goal was set at the start of the season 'top 10 finish' to achieve this and some, to never have been given a revised target to realise what the owner wanted - how has SGE not delivered what has been asked for?

If the Chairman is setting an unrealistic goal, knowing full well the manager isn't likely to make it, he really doesn't want the public to know. The press will be constantly going on about the unrealistic nature of the target, while the fans will have no reason to support there manager once it becomes quite clear they won't reach the target. It made far more sense to lie than it ever did to tell the truth, sadly.

Of course it doesn't..... if that was the case what you are saying is the season was wrote off before it started, and Sven was fired before it started, thus should never have hired him in the first place - this makes absolutely no logical, business of footballing sense - so for me your way off here.

Unless the manager of preference happens to be currently unavailable but will be available sooner rather than later. You bring in a manager as a temporary solution, but give him the funds to lay the foundations for the future manager, if he succeeds you have no need to bring in the other manager, if he doesn't you bring in the other manager.

The unrealistic target wasn't retrospectively that unrealistic in the end. Finishing in the top half at the start of the season would have apparently been a decent achievement, in reality they've shown that they could/should have finished in a European position. It was a challenge, which I'm sure Sven believed he could achieve, even if he didn't fully appreciate the consequences of failing.

Been listening to Radio1 a bit today..Noel Gallagher was interviewed about it and he is outraged I heard the interview about 3 times in 45 minutes.