Man City To Sack SGE

borocooper wrote:Been listening to Radio1 a bit today..Noel Gallagher was interviewed about it and he is outraged I heard the interview about 3 times in 45 minutes.

good by radio 1 standards. normally it's 2 $h!t songs, 2 mins of inane babble and newsbeat going round and round on a 10 min loop.

debaser wrote:

borocooper wrote:Been listening to Radio1 a bit today..Noel Gallagher was interviewed about it and he is outraged I heard the interview about 3 times in 45 minutes.

good by radio 1 standards. normally it's 2 $h!t songs, 2 mins of inane babble and newsbeat going round and round on a 10 min loop.

Who listens to the radio to hear people(usually excitable dickheads) talking? The radio is shite.

Sometimes its the only option..I was driving and had no CDs in the car. I get bored of silence.

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Football Genius wrote:

Dwarf wrote:

Football Genius wrote:The most fustrating thing i would find as SGE or a City fan whom supported him - would be that the goal was set at the start of the season 'top 10 finish' to achieve this and some, to never have been given a revised target to realise what the owner wanted - how has SGE not delivered what has been asked for?

If the Chairman is setting an unrealistic goal, knowing full well the manager isn't likely to make it, he really doesn't want the public to know. The press will be constantly going on about the unrealistic nature of the target, while the fans will have no reason to support there manager once it becomes quite clear they won't reach the target. It made far more sense to lie than it ever did to tell the truth, sadly.

Of course it doesn't..... if that was the case what you are saying is the season was wrote off before it started, and Sven was fired before it started, thus should never have hired him in the first place - this makes absolutely no logical, business of footballing sense - so for me your way off here.

Unless the manager of preference happens to be currently unavailable but will be available sooner rather than later. You bring in a manager as a temporary solution, but give him the funds to lay the foundations for the future manager, if he succeeds you have no need to bring in the other manager, if he doesn't you bring in the other manager.

The unrealistic target wasn't retrospectively that unrealistic in the end. Finishing in the top half at the start of the season would have apparently been a decent achievement, in reality they've shown that they could/should have finished in a European position. It was a challenge, which I'm sure Sven believed he could achieve, even if he didn't fully appreciate the consequences of failing.

Again that is not a valid explaination, because of the severence package i.e he may as well be pissing the money up the wall, and secondary - you cannot be certain that a candidate he had in mind will be available 12months on down the line - utterly absurd business logic, you would not waste 12 months in a commercial or sporting environment because "the right man was not initially available" and then throw a wod of £40odd million at the supposive 'stop gap' manager - you give your full support behind a new management team which is evident by allowing Sven to bring his own backroom staff in, £40mill of new players and heres the important part - he choose... Your scenario makes no pragmatic, logical, sporting and finally and possibly more importantly business sense.

Football Genius wrote:
Again that is not a valid explaination, because of the severence package i.e he may as well be pissing the money up the wall,

He's given a long term deal to give the impression of stability while giving him the leeway to continue the experiment beyond a year if he so requires. It's a crass attitude to business, but it works when you need to sort out the underlying problems.

and secondary - you cannot be certain that a candidate he had in mind will be available 12months on down the line -

Which is another reason why you give the interim manager a longer contract, hoping that sooner or later a candidate you'd want would be available. If he's not available, you plod away with the high class interim manager you have. Spur's did it for 3 years with Jol, he was never really going to take them to the next level in terms of achievements, but in terms of advancing the club forward he served his purpose admirably.

utterly absurd business logic, you would not waste 12 months in a commercial or sporting environment because "the right man was not initially available" and then throw a wod of £40odd million at the supposive 'stop gap' manager - you give your full support behind a new management team which is evident by allowing Sven to bring his own backroom staff in, £40mill of new players and heres the important part - he choose...

You would if the right man wasn't required in order to fulfill role as an interim manager, but would be in taking the club to the next step. Managers of lesser ability after all have reputations of being able to sort a club in trouble out, even if they aren't the right men to lead the club forward in the long term. The same applies for Sven, even if it's not as well defined.

Billy Davies got sacked on a similar basis. No harm giving the manager a chance, as there was no realistic chance of keeping them up, but when it became clear how far out of depth they were, they ushered in a new manager who they believed would be an improvement.

Your scenario makes no pragmatic, logical, sporting and finally and possibly more importantly business sense.

This isn't about employing a manager explicitly as a temporary manager, this is about manipulating the environment presented to give a scenario in your favor, which is done throughout the world constantly.

What I find stupid is this new story that he will still lead them on their Asian tour, but then get sacked after that. WTF???

Tweedle wrote:Is anyone else worried that goater might have topped himself?

yes it has crossed my mind. Been having loads of work done on my flat and not been able to get on the net.

I cant tell you how upset and angry i am, Sven has been brilliant for us and if we sack him it will be a terrible mistake.

Manchester City have offered Portugal coach Luiz Felipe Scolari over £3m a year to replace manager Sven-Goran Eriksson at the City of Manchester Stadium. (Various)

Manchester City have reportedly offered Luiz Felipe Scolari the managers job at Eastlands - but have told him he must accept before the European Championships.

Various newspapers report that the current Portugal coach has been offered a contract worth around £3million a year to take over from Sven Goran Eriksson, who appears certain to be sacked at the end of the season.

City fans have been concerned that, if Scolari was offered the job, he would not be able to start work until mid-July, with half of pre-season gone already.

However, both The Times and The Independent report that Thaksin Shinawatra plans to attempt to overcome that hurdle by insisting that Scolari gives City an answer before Euro 2008.

They claim: 'Scolari is understood to be interested by City's proposal, which was put to him by Taweesuk "Jack" Srisumrid, the club's executive director, and an intermediary who is believed to be Brazilian. However, Scolari is concerned by Thaksin's insistence on an immediate response and would prefer to wait until after the finals in Austria and Switzerland before making a decision on his future.'

However, a City spokesman told the Bangkok Post newspaper that Eriksson would lead the side on an end of season tour to the Far East.
Paul Tyrell said: "Mr Eriksson will be attending."
City will arrive in Thailand on May 14 to open a club store and hold a clinic before playing against Thailand Premier All-Stars on May 17.
A match with a South China Invitation XI follows in Hong Kong on May 22.

How do people think Scolari would do?

Or, more importantly, how will Eriksson do back at Benfica?