Internationals becoming manager

In Holland it's getting insane. Everyone, who played for Holland as of 1984, bar Berry van Aerle- who became a postman- & a few who became pundits, became manager. Even the ones you don't expect it of, like say Kluivert (he's going to do the certification). Wonder what it's like in your country. Are there many players going on in management? Should it stimulated by the FA? The Dutch FA did. I'm happy with it despite it being hard seeing great players fail as a manager, for example Gullit.

Our Eurocup 1984 winners becoming famous managers are :
- Luis Fernandez
- Jean Tigana
- Alain Giresse

and...

Michel Platini now UEFA president

from the England world cup 1990 squad... the only ones with much of a managerial careers that I can think of are Pearce, Robson, Mark Wright, Steve McMahon, Butcher, Platt, Barnes...and none of them a particular success.

Going back to 82 though, that squad had Hoddle, Keegan, Reid, Francis, Coppell...a more successful batch. Plus Brooking, whose very powerful in English football these days.

But really, going into TV is most popular for famous ex-players. easier, less stressful, and probably better paid.

Napoléon wrote:Our Eurocup 1984 winners becoming famous managers are :
- Luis Fernandez
- Jean Tigana
- Alain Giresse

and...

Michel Platini now UEFA president

From 84 you also have:

Philippe Bergeroo (PSG)

Six

Bernard Lacombe & Joël Bats (Lyon)

Roberto Sensini

Diego Simeone...This one will go far IMO. Despite his current situation at River, where he has been betrayed by the most unstable sports institution and it's players in the country, I think he will end up being coach for Argentina.

Charles Gyamfi was pretty good in Ghana. Shehata in Egypt and for some reason everyone seems to forget that Maradona went into management too. Ferenc Puskas, Nandor Hidgekuti (sp) and Alfredo di Stefano always get left out of such debates, but were at least decent.

You can add Matthaus, Kilnsmann and Vogts too. Sammer briefly too - still in German set up. Beckenbauer, Hoeness and Rummenigge as well. What happened to Netzer. Did he ever go into management, etc. Cruijff and Krol from days gone by in Dutch football too. An interesting aside would be crappy players who became managers.

Netzer became sporting director at HSV later on. Under his reign, HSV signed Ernst Happel, and won the European Cup in 1983, the most successful era of the club. He later started his own company which deals with TV rights (football).

It seems like it's almost impossible for the Dutchies *not* to become manager in the most exotic places on Earth

First I'll do the 1974 squad, then also the 1988 one.


Dutch 1974 Squad :

Managers :

Arie Haan

* Antwerp FC
* RSC Anderlecht
* Standard Luik
* VfB Stuttgart
* 1. FC Nürnberg
* PAOK Saloniki
* Feyenoord
* Paniliakos
* Omonia Nicosia
* Austria Wien

* China
* Cameroon
* Albania


Wim van Hanegem

* Feyenoord
* FC Utrecht
* Al Hilal
* AZ'67
* Sparta

* Holland (assistant to Advocaat)

Rinus Israël

* PAOK Saloniki
* FC Den Bosch
* Dinamo Boekarest
* ADO Den Haag
* Some clubs in the UAE (must have had a popular name )

* Holland (assistant to Advocaat & Hiddink)
* Ghana

Wim Jansen

* SC Lokeren
* SVV
* Sanfrecce Hiroshima
* Celtic
* Feyenoord

* Saudi Arabia

Theo de Jong

* Go Ahead Eagles
* FC Zwolle
* FC Den Bosch
* some exotic clubs in Iran

Jan Jongbloed

* Go Ahead Eagles (assistant)
* Vitesse (assistant & youth)

Ruud Krol

* KV Mechelen
* Servette Genève
* Al-Zamalek
* Ajax (assistant)
* AC Ajaccio

* Holland (assistant)

Johan Neeskens

* FC Baar
* FC Zug
* FC Stafa
* FC Singen
* NEC Nijmegen
* FC Barcelona (assistant to Rijkaard)

* Holland (assistant to Hiddink & Rijkaard)
* Australia (assistant to Hiddink)

Johan Cruyff

* Ajax
* Barcelona

Johnny Rep

has been managing Dutch amateur sides

Wim Rijsbergen

* FC Volendam
* NAC Breda
* FC Groningen (grrrr )
* Universidad Católica
* Al-Ittifaq
* Club América (assistant)

* Trinidad and Tobago

Piet Schrijvers

* FC Wageningen
* TOP Oss
* AZ
* FC Zwolle

* Saudi Arabia


Not into management :

* Ruud Geels
* Kees van Ierssel
* Piet Keizer (although being a scout for Ajax and their technical director for a year)
* Rene van de Kerkhof
* Willy van de Kerkhof
* Rob Rensenbrink
* Pleun Strik
* Harry Vos
* Wim Suurbier (homeless )
* Eddy Treytel

Wasn't Neeskens also Rijkaard's assistant during the EC 2000 campaign?

Dutch 1988 squad :

Managers


Adri van Tiggelen

* Sparta

Sjaak Troost

* Feyenoord (Commercial Director)

Ronald Koeman

* Vitesse
* Ajax
* Benfica
* PSV
* Valencia CF ()


Erwin Koeman

* RKC Waalwijk
* Feyenoord

* Hungary

Aron Winter

* Ajax (youth)

Gerald Vanenburg

* PSV (youth)
* 1860 München
* Helmond Sport
* FC Eindhoven

Arnold Mühren

* Volendam (youth)
* Ajax (youth)


Ruud Gullit (worst manager in the history of mankind)

* Chelsea FC
* Newcastle United FC
* Feyenoord
* Los Angeles Galaxy

* Holland U21

John van 't Schip

* Ajax (assistant to Van Bastard)

* Holland (assistant to Van Bastard)

Marco van Basten

* Ajax

* Holland (grrrr )


Wim Koevermans

* FC Groningen
* RBC Roosendaal
* NEC Nijmegen
* MVV Maastricht

* Holland (youth)

Joop Hiele

* Willem II Tilburg (goalkeeping coach)
* PSV Eindhoven (goalkeeping coach)

* Holland U-21 (goalkeeping coach)
* Holland (goalkeeping coach)

Frank Rijkaard

* Sparta
* Barcelona

* Holland (best playing Dutch national team I ever saw....but for those penalties )


Hendrie Krüzen

* Heracles Almelo

Jan Wouters

* FC Utrecht (assistant)
* Ajax (youth)
* Ajax
* Glasgow Rangers (assistant)
* PSV (assistant-trainer)
* PSV (interim)

* Holland (assistant)


Not into Management


* Hans van Breukelen (tv Pundit, wasn't he also technical director at FC Utrecht a while ago ?)
* Berry van Aerle (postman)
* John Bosman
* Wim Kieft (tv Pundit...surprisingly a very good pundit )
* Wilbert Suvrijn (player's agent atm)



If you look how long ago these players stopped playing, it's ridiculous to see how some of them have been made chief responsible out of nowhere....

Although some of them really seem to have a knack for it

DD wrote:Wasn't Neeskens also Rijkaard's assistant during the EC 2000 campaign?

Yup, you're right

There'll probably be a lot more forgotten jobs in there (had to rely mainly on Wiki )...

And of course there is Michael Laudrup

Abedi Pele is President of FC Nania - founded it as well