Premier League Final Matchday 2007/2008 Discussion Thread

The Quiet Earth wrote:Maynor Figueroa impressed me today down the left for Wigan. He was a little sloppy at times, but he's got a vicious shot, marked whoever played on Utd's right pretty well, and got forward to help Wigan's attack.

Steve Bruce did well to learn about this guy.

Ronaldo, so it wasn't exactly a hard task

Wigan have a lot of skillful players. Bruce is doing a very good job with them

COTR wrote:

The Quiet Earth wrote:Maynor Figueroa impressed me today down the left for Wigan. He was a little sloppy at times, but he's got a vicious shot, marked whoever played on Utd's right pretty well, and got forward to help Wigan's attack.

Steve Bruce did well to learn about this guy.

Ronaldo, so it wasn't exactly a hard task

Wigan have a lot of skillful players. Bruce is doing a very good job with them

Yeah, Palacios and Valencia are impressive too. Both have great technique. I can see why they've been linked to bigger clubs. He'll do well to keep hold of them.

Wow. Hectic last day.

Well done Utd. At half time it seemed like it was going to be a massive injustice, but Chelsea cocked it up, and Utd deserved the win in the end.

6th place and Intertoto for Villa is cool by me. To the Top 4 next season!

I'm off to bump the relegation thread where I predicted Reading and Brum to go down...

Sgoater1 wrote:Us losing 6-0 and U*d win the title ! does it get any worse !

Yep, you can lose 8-1.

Bashmachkin wrote:Congratulations to Man Utd for the successful season. Whilst I think the stuff regarding them being the more attacking team, the best team to watch, has been entirely overdone in the media - I simply don't think it would come up as an issue, at least not to anything like the same extent, were, say, Chelsea or Arsenal to win the league with an impressive goal difference - still I think Man Utd have been more impressive than Chelsea this season. Ultimately, they've won the most points, been the most consistent and assured team in the league, and I agree that they deserve the title despite some controversial decisions.

I didn't see the Newcastle game - 3-1 isn't impressive, but we put out a poor team, and the result is a bit irrelevant for us. I can only offer debaser my most profuse apologies on a job not well done, on a plan of action that failed, and I'll work on communicating better with the club over the summer months - I hope we can mutually benefit one another many a time in the season to come.

It's all good. We failed to do our part anyway.

To the future

City in troubel, we kicked off with police and rippe seats out and threw them on the pitch !

Sgoater1 wrote:City in troubel, we kicked off with police and rippe seats out and threw them on the pitch !

I don't see how you will be getting a fair play spot now

What a great day for city

S4P wrote:

Historicus wrote:

S4P wrote:Not bothered about the late goal. The players knew the title race was over. However it's too many incidents like that which have effectively cost us the chance of winning the title this season.

We must have the best away record of any team since the Premiership began, which only highlights how bad we've been at home. 14 points dropped this season (to Man Utd's 5)!

That said, Alex might have just lost his place for the CL final. Awful clearance and then he stands directly in front of Cech before letting the ball go through him.

I hope Bolton get that bus off the park OK. It's quite a tight pitch you know.

Congrats to Man Utd.

If Alex isn't playing CB in the final, who is? Terry clearly isn't. I'd rather Alex and Carvalho than Ben Haim and Carvalho.

Apparently Terry should be back. We should be informed by Puro's NY-Miami connection soon.

Who needs the NY-Miami connection? Apparently it was just a 'little' dislocation and there was no break.

COTR wrote:

Sgoater1 wrote:City in troubel, we kicked off with police and rippe seats out and threw them on the pitch !

I don't see how you will be getting a fair play spot now

What a great day for city

Citeh fans: "Fairplay? what a Fucking insult"!

Sheffield gunner wrote:Penalty to Man Utd!

That is soft! Wouldn't have been given to Wigan. Refs do Utd a favour, what a surprise.

I guess people will question the penalty Wigan could of had and Scholes being sent off, without mentioning the penalty Scholes should have been given.

The penalty on Rooney though?!

Was you all swayed by Andy Gray saying 'oooh!! Controversial'. It was a complete stone waller, he got nothing of the ball and was at almost knee height on Rooney.

Parks lives wrote:

Sheffield gunner wrote:Penalty to Man Utd!

That is soft! Wouldn't have been given to Wigan. Refs do Utd a favour, what a surprise.

I guess people will question the penalty Wigan could of had and Scholes being sent off, without mentioning the penalty Scholes should have been given.

The penalty on Rooney though?!

Was you all swayed by Andy Gray saying 'oooh!! Controversial'. It was a complete stone waller, he got nothing of the ball and was at almost knee height on Rooney.

Caught up in the drama of it a bit!

I've said since that I have no problem with that penalty being given. Although I'm absolutely certain Wigan wouldn't have been awarded it if it was the other way round.

Parks lives wrote:

I guess people will question the penalty Wigan could of had and Scholes being sent off, without mentioning the penalty Scholes should have been given.

If Scholes is sent off, there is no him being brought down in the box.

Oh well, not like it mattered in the end.

HAHAHA Grant the Muppet and Terry, all week telling everyone how Wigan will play their socks off and Bolton held them to a draw

BIG PIE ON FRANK LAMPARDS FACE

Carrick > Ballsack

Parks lives wrote:Oh well, not like it mattered in the end.

Of course it bloody mattered spank. It changed the entire path of the afternoon

The penalty Scholes didn't get?

Idiot.

Parks lives wrote:The penalty Scholes didn't get?

Idiot.

Do you even realise what you are typing ?

Rosicky has already pointed this out to you

Serious question to United fans - do you actually get any satisfaction from winning titles like that ?

Gray said that ronaldo would have to learn that he doesn't make decisions for the referee.

Too right, that's fergie's job.

Watford shafted by Kevin (no)Friend(s) and
Steve Bennett handing United the title when Sheva should have been the hero - what a thoroughly depressing day of football.

Pierre Littbarski wrote:Serious question to United fans - do you actually get any satisfaction from winning titles like that ?

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Hell Yes.

Carrick > Ballsack

COTR wrote:

Parks lives wrote:Oh well, not like it mattered in the end.

Of course it bloody mattered spank. It changed the entire path of the afternoon

As did the two penalties not given, and the foul on Rooney not given just before the Scholes possible sending off incident.


If this is honestly the best ABUs can come up with then my advice is to leave them to the pile of $h!t they've created and get on with celebrating. There are any number of elements of luck to Man U winning the league today, but speculative nonsense about refereeing decisions smacks of embarassment. Particularly from supporters of a club whose excuse for several seasons now has been their European record but who haven't achieved as much in Europe this year as the team they're WUMing...

Mattheus wrote:

Pierre Littbarski wrote:Serious question to United fans - do you actually get any satisfaction from winning titles like that ?

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Hell Yes.

Carrick > Ballsack

Saints I can only imagine what you would be saying if it was arsenal winning in that manner

You would be starting a book on the corruption involved

Jigaboo wrote:

COTR wrote:

Parks lives wrote:Oh well, not like it mattered in the end.

Of course it bloody mattered spank. It changed the entire path of the afternoon

As did the two penalties not given, and the foul on Rooney not given just before the Scholes possible sending off incident.

It wasn't a foul on Rooney, Wigan player got the ball. of all the questionable decisions, Scholes not getting a red card was, to me, the clearest 'mistake'.

The pen for Man Utd was right, I thought. Although it was a slightly unusual one, the Wigan player took out the player before he got to the ball (and probably meant to).

The Rio penalty...I wasn't sure. It was upper arm/shoulder. Could have been given, but would've been a v soft penalty if it was.

debaser wrote:It wasn't a foul on Rooney, Wigan player got the ball.

When Rooney lost the ball it was because he'd been impeded. We'll have to see if a video appears but I'm utterly sure he was fouled.

of all the questionable decisions, Scholes not getting a red card was, to me, the clearest 'mistake'.

To me it was barely even a foul - the player wasn't in clear control of the ball, having pushed it far beyond him, and the challenge was shoulder to shoulder. Given that the player wasn't clearly advancing into a goalscoring or goalcreating position I don't see why it should have to be a yellow card and hence a red.

The pen for Man Utd was right, I thought. Although it was a slightly unusual one, the Wigan player took out the player before he got to the ball (and probably meant to).

There was another more than reasonable shout for a penalty in the second half on Rooney close to the byline. The Reading player clearly hacked him down. You could argue that Rooney was going nowhere and hence not a denial of a clear goalscoring opportunity.

The Rio penalty...I wasn't sure. It was upper arm/shoulder. Could have been given, but would've been a v soft penalty if it was.

Curiously, I think this was the worst decision. From the camera behind the goal you can clearly see Ferdinand move as the ball comes through the air towards him. Now, he was *probably* trying to get his chest behind it, but he moved to the ball and it struck him on the arm and this stopped it being a goalbound shot.

As clear a penalty as the day offered, in my opinion.

There was an incident where a freekick was given to Wigan in their area, causing Rooney to shout all sorts of nonsense at the referee, earning him a deserved booking. But the replay of the incident showed that while the ball had struck Rooney's arm, it had also struck the defender's arm, who at one moment pulled Rooney back as he was trying to shoot.

So while Wigan should have had one penalty (stonewall), Man U should have had two or possibly three. If the referee was being generous towards them. He had the excuse to give two more. He didn't.

Talk of the referee handing this game to Man U is, in my opinion, ludicrous.

Ah well, we'll win it next year

I don't give a f@ck who wins it (bar Arsenal), as long as they play some good stuff along the way.

I've been underwhelmed by the performances Man U have put it at the end of this season.

Pierre Littbarski wrote:Serious question to United fans - do you actually get any satisfaction from winning titles like that ?

Hull.

Jigaboo wrote:Talk of the referee handing this game to Man U is, in my opinion, ludicrous.

says the asst. head of the redbloods

decision 1 pen v. rio? Not given

had wigan taken that who knows how the game would have panned out.

pen to rooney a v 50/50 another day may well not have been given, for sure if that game had been at OT and the pen had been for wigan no way they'd have got it.

Clear red for scholes cynically took the player out, whther the guy had the ball or not saints that is a foul, otherwise your allowed to man handle players as long as the isn't nearby which isn't the case

te foul on scholes (not rooney as well you know but doesn't suit your argument) was a clear pen. but then scholes shouldn't have been on the pitch in the first place.


It's sad cos bennett has cost them the winning by fair means issue, cos so many important decisions he facked up.

The Rooney penalty was not 50/50. Only someone who wanted to question us winning the title would spout that much bullsh*t.