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    Scolari is new Chelsea Manager!

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    Post by Sgoater1 Thu Jun 12, 2008 12:30 am

    How will he cope with the English press ? one of the main reasons he didnt want the England job.

    He is a good manager but hard to know how he will do in a day to day club enviroment after such a long peroid in international management, its also hard to know which players he will like the look of and who he will kick out.
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    Post by Z&H Thu Jun 12, 2008 12:41 am

    Sgoater1 wrote:How will he cope with the English press ? one of the main reasons he didnt want the England job.

    He is a good manager but hard to know how he will do in a day to day club enviroment after such a long peroid in international management, its also hard to know which players he will like the look of and who he will kick out.

    He'll hire Mourinho as traductor. Just like Bobby Robson did in Barcelona Biggrin
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    Post by Luso Thu Jun 12, 2008 1:43 am

    Unlike Scolari to let this leak-out. Fucking Chelsea trying to grab some attention.

    The FPF should report their asses to FIFA Manchester style... while we're at it Sporting should report Manchester for their tyri ng to lure Moutinho/Veloso... does nobody see this?
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    Post by DS Thu Jun 12, 2008 3:53 am

    Strange choice its different things being a national manager and a club manager.
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    Post by DS Thu Jun 12, 2008 3:54 am

    And now people will know why he wanted Ronaldo to move to RM.
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    Post by fcb Thu Jun 12, 2008 6:03 am

    Yessss, I hope they start a bidding war with Man. City and Ronaldinho goes for loads of cash. And also starts a battle with Mourinho for Deco.
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    Post by S4P Thu Jun 12, 2008 7:51 am

    The squad doesn't need altering too much, I think we're more than comfortable in goal and in defence. Maka can probably do it for one more season, but Mikel is there to take over when he's finished, so I'm optimistic about that.

    I think we need 2 top quality strikers and a winger.
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    Post by bluenine Thu Jun 12, 2008 11:28 am

    Sgoater1 wrote:How will he cope with the English press ? one of the main reasons he didnt want the England job.

    He is a good manager but hard to know how he will do in a day to day club enviroment after such a long peroid in international management, its also hard to know which players he will like the look of and who he will kick out.

    Congratulations Chelsea, you ve got yourself a great coach!

    Scolari is tactically very good, and a good man manager. Has a very accomplised record. One of the best in the world. He is surprisingly very under rated in Europe, but that will clearly change now.
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    Post by Puro Thu Jun 12, 2008 4:45 pm

    WOW! Scolari is one of the few coaches in the world who really inspire his players. I'd lace up the shoes just to tell Scolari before a big match "COME ON COACH!" bounce

    Abramovich got his man alright. Any ideas what will be Chelsea's lineup under Scolari? <Ale>
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    Post by fcb Thu Jun 12, 2008 6:06 pm

    Hmm, all this talk about Scolari being a great motivator makes me wonder. It's one thing to get your players up for tournament games. What about a 12.45pm kickoff in rain on a Cr@p December pitch against a Wigan side looking to kick 2 shits out of you? What about motivating his players every week, rather than sporadically.

    Also, Portugal weren't too impressive in qualifying, which is the only analogy (albeit inaccurate) that we can make to a league. Overall, I think he's a good manager, but my opinion is firmly wait-and-see as to whether he can adapt firstly to league football after so many years, and secondly on whether his, let's say bubbly, personality can cope with English press and fans.
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    Post by robert Thu Jun 12, 2008 6:13 pm

    Meh if Grant could carry Chelsea as far as he did then Scolari will do just fine.
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    Post by Luso Thu Jun 12, 2008 8:49 pm

    DS wrote:And now people will know why he wanted Ronaldo to move to RM.

    He did???
    Bit of paranoia coming from the Manchester camp perhaps...
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    Post by Luso Thu Jun 12, 2008 9:45 pm

    bluenine wrote:
    Sgoater1 wrote:How will he cope with the English press ? one of the main reasons he didnt want the England job.

    He is a good manager but hard to know how he will do in a day to day club enviroment after such a long peroid in international management, its also hard to know which players he will like the look of and who he will kick out.

    Congratulations Chelsea, you ve got yourself a great coach!

    Scolari is tactically very good, and a good man manager. Has a very accomplised record. One of the best in the world. He is surprisingly very under rated in Europe, but that will clearly change now.

    Scolari's work with Portugal isn't enough?

    Many people in Portugal critisize him, especially Portista, but the man has completely changed everything about the Selecção.

    People expect big things now and go absolutely nuts around our squad, and I didn't see this before.

    Scolari has been the most influential manager we've ever had.

    Stubbron as f@ck, but a good guy to have at the helm.
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    Post by EM Seleção e Selecção Thu Jun 12, 2008 10:09 pm

    S4P wrote:The squad doesn't need altering too much, I think we're more than comfortable in goal and in defence. Maka can probably do it for one more season, but Mikel is there to take over when he's finished, so I'm optimistic about that.

    I think we need 2 top quality strikers and a winger.
    You need three wingers not one Exclamation
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    Post by S4P Thu Jun 12, 2008 10:11 pm

    EMPortuguese wrote:
    S4P wrote:The squad doesn't need altering too much, I think we're more than comfortable in goal and in defence. Maka can probably do it for one more season, but Mikel is there to take over when he's finished, so I'm optimistic about that.

    I think we need 2 top quality strikers and a winger.
    You need three wingers not one Exclamation

    Joe Cole
    Kalou

    (and if he ever finds some form Malouda).

    Why 3 more?
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    Post by Protheus Thu Jun 12, 2008 10:18 pm

    Luso wrote:
    bluenine wrote:
    Sgoater1 wrote:How will he cope with the English press ? one of the main reasons he didnt want the England job.

    He is a good manager but hard to know how he will do in a day to day club enviroment after such a long peroid in international management, its also hard to know which players he will like the look of and who he will kick out.

    Congratulations Chelsea, you ve got yourself a great coach!

    Scolari is tactically very good, and a good man manager. Has a very accomplised record. One of the best in the world. He is surprisingly very under rated in Europe, but that will clearly change now.

    Scolari's work with Portugal isn't enough?

    Many people in Portugal critisize him, especially Portista, but the man has completely changed everything about the Selecção.

    People expect big things now and go absolutely nuts around our squad, and I didn't see this before.

    Scolari has been the most influential manager we've ever had.

    Stubbron as f@ck, but a good guy to have at the helm.

    No manager had such a good squad before him, no manager had such a support from the FA as anyone before him, no journalist had such a stupid scare to question him about tons of things he doesn´t like to be asked. Add to that: no manager has every played at home an Euro and lost with the same squad twice and beeing greeted like a winner in the end Doh Easiest qualifying groups ever, ring a bell?

    Sorry Luso but if you say he has a strong personality i agree with you now if you say it is all his doing? hell no. We have a hell of a team like we never did before, playing in the best leagues in europe did you expect less from Portugal than trying to at least fight to win every match?

    No one can promise victories but one can sure try to win every match. At least i expect nothing less.
    I am sorry but as much as i would like to say we are doomed without him i won´t. Once thing i say though, he is the luckyest manager i ever saw.
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    Post by Luso Fri Jun 13, 2008 12:55 am

    Protheus wrote:
    Luso wrote:
    bluenine wrote:
    Sgoater1 wrote:How will he cope with the English press ? one of the main reasons he didnt want the England job.

    He is a good manager but hard to know how he will do in a day to day club enviroment after such a long peroid in international management, its also hard to know which players he will like the look of and who he will kick out.

    Congratulations Chelsea, you ve got yourself a great coach!

    Scolari is tactically very good, and a good man manager. Has a very accomplised record. One of the best in the world. He is surprisingly very under rated in Europe, but that will clearly change now.

    Scolari's work with Portugal isn't enough?

    Many people in Portugal critisize him, especially Portista, but the man has completely changed everything about the Selecção.

    People expect big things now and go absolutely nuts around our squad, and I didn't see this before.

    Scolari has been the most influential manager we've ever had.

    Stubbron as f@ck, but a good guy to have at the helm.

    No manager had such a good squad before him, no manager had such a support from the FA as anyone before him, no journalist had such a stupid scare to question him about tons of things he doesn´t like to be asked. Add to that: no manager has every played at home an Euro and lost with the same squad twice and beeing greeted like a winner in the end Doh Easiest qualifying groups ever, ring a bell?

    Sorry Luso but if you say he has a strong personality i agree with you now if you say it is all his doing? hell no. We have a hell of a team like we never did before, playing in the best leagues in europe did you expect less from Portugal than trying to at least fight to win every match?

    No one can promise victories but one can sure try to win every match. At least i expect nothing less.
    I am sorry but as much as i would like to say we are doomed without him i won´t. Once thing i say though, he is the luckyest manager i ever saw.

    You're right. Scolari has nothing to do with it. It's all down to Sporting pumping the national side with the best wingers in Europe.

    We should have Jorge Costa and Vitor Baia at the helm... now that would scare the $h!t out of the oposition.

    Come off it man.
    Yes he has a good squad, is that his fault? Perhaps he should pick the shitiest side possible to make things harder for himself.

    The man's only short coming to you, and just admit it, is he doesn't have a good relationship with Porto. So what?

    I didn't say the man is perfect, but he's done well to change the atmosphere around the side, which is what I stressed... not results.

    He's brought the people around the squad like never before and you can deny it all you want, it won't change that fact.

    These little brigas by the portistas are so old by now they're not at all entertaining. You guys have completely turned into what you hatted the most: Benfica. Annoying as f@ck.

    You can call the bastard $h!t all you want, but the rest of the world seems to think there's something to him that makes him one of the best managers in the game.

    I know he isn't good enough for Porto, but then again who is right buddy?

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    Post by Protheus Fri Jun 13, 2008 1:31 am

    It is funny how you transform my every single argument to "portistas arguments". So i can´t have my own opinion?
    I must be hypnotized by him like most seem to be? I have to like everything he does and can´t criticize anything?

    The world likes him, by all means they can all enjoy him. I don´t and i don´t rate him that much. if you want to see everything as portistas brigas have fun.
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    Post by DS Fri Jun 13, 2008 4:57 am

    New Chelsea boss Luiz Felipe Scolari will be the highest-paid manager in the Premier League.
    The Portugal coach will leapfrog Arsene Wenger and Kevin Keegan, the league's two top earners, by more than £1million.
    His deal, worth between £5.5million and £6million per year, will
    also be the second-highest paid position in Europe, eclipsed only by
    former Chelsea manager Jose Mourinho's £7m-a-year deal at Inter Milan.
    Wenger, whose Arsenal side last won a trophy in 2005, had been
    the Premier League's best-paid coach since Mourinho's departure from
    Chelsea, earning in the region of £4.5million per year. Meanwhile Keegan, who earns around £4million per year at Newcastle, has never won a major trophy.
    Sir Alex Ferguson, the Premier League's most successful manager,
    earns £3million per season, around the same as Harry Redknapp, Roy
    Keane and Mark Hughes.
    Scolari, who famously rejected the chance to manage England in
    2006, will also earn around £1million per season more than Fabio
    Capello.


    Arsenal fans wanted to know where their wages went , well it went to their manager.
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    Post by Luso Fri Jun 13, 2008 6:23 am

    Protheus wrote:It is funny how you transform my every single argument to "portistas arguments". So i can´t have my own opinion?
    I must be hypnotized by him like most seem to be? I have to like everything he does and can´t criticize anything?

    The world likes him, by all means they can all enjoy him. I don´t and i don´t rate him that much. if you want to see everything as portistas brigas have fun.

    For someone that equates everything to 'haters' I'm surprised you'd be taken back by my assesment.

    It's pretty narrow minded I guess... you must be wearing off on me.
    Scolari has his +/- ... I just want to win the Euro.

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    Post by Luso Fri Jun 13, 2008 6:26 am

    DS wrote:New Chelsea boss Luiz Felipe Scolari will be the highest-paid manager in the Premier League.
    The Portugal coach will leapfrog Arsene Wenger and Kevin Keegan, the league's two top earners, by more than £1million.
    His deal, worth between £5.5million and £6million per year, will
    also be the second-highest paid position in Europe, eclipsed only by
    former Chelsea manager Jose Mourinho's £7m-a-year deal at Inter Milan.
    Wenger, whose Arsenal side last won a trophy in 2005, had been
    the Premier League's best-paid coach since Mourinho's departure from
    Chelsea, earning in the region of £4.5million per year. Meanwhile Keegan, who earns around £4million per year at Newcastle, has never won a major trophy.
    Sir Alex Ferguson, the Premier League's most successful manager,
    earns £3million per season, around the same as Harry Redknapp, Roy
    Keane and Mark Hughes.
    Scolari, who famously rejected the chance to manage England in
    2006, will also earn around £1million per season more than Fabio
    Capello.


    Arsenal fans wanted to know where their wages went , well it went to their manager.

    affraid

    And here's the problem with Newcastle. I keep saying it, Kimbo keeps denying it, but they spend way too much club. They're not successful and they need to live as a club that has serious problems.

    Throwing money around isn't going to solve their problems.. it's probably their biggest one.
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    Post by S4P Fri Jun 13, 2008 12:06 pm

    Wenger's on £90k a week Yikes
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    Post by Bashmachkin Fri Jun 13, 2008 1:16 pm

    We have spent too much on player wages in the past, and what is worse, we have spent these really high wages on the most undeserving of players. I'm not a Newcastle fan who sees Freddy Shepherd, our former chairman, as the Antichrist - I think his motives were often good, that he was genuinely ambitious for the club - but he had no footballing nous or knowledge and he increasingly spent quite reckless amounts of money. The legacy of that is still with us, we still have some undeserving players on silly amounts, but under our current owners we are trying to rectify this.

    We've supposedly offered Owen a new contract reduced from his current £104,000 a week - which is more than fair, especially considering that he hasn't deserved that wage for most of his time with us. We are in the process of selling Emre, who is always injured yet who has been picking up £60,000 a week. The suggestion is that we are asking Barton to take a 50% pay cut if he wants to stay with the club - I hope he doesn't accept, and again, the rumours are that he's inclined not to, so I hope we see the back of him - but that would move his wages from £60,000 to £30,000. Damien Duff, who has his house up for sale, seems to be on the way out, and he's apparently on £70,000 a week. We released a few fringe players a short while ago, amongst them Stephen Carr, who I think was on something like £25,000 a week, and we have just sold Rozehnal to Lazio.

    Like I've said elsewhere, we need players at the club, and players need to be paid - I'm not for being really tight with wages, for losing out on certain players who would improve the team just because we refuse to give them an extra £5,000 a week. The money has to be spent, but it should be spent on the right people. And there are still players at the club receiving too much money - Smith is on £60,000 a week, Viduka is on more than that apparently. But overall, we are moving in the right direction here - we are trying to reduce the wage bill, to get rid of what is perceived as dead wood, to lower what we pay as our top wages. The club has changed in this respect - I don't think we can be grouped with those who throw money about any more.

    The article DS posts doesn't sound that reliable to me - lots of 'around's and 'between's, whilst I have read that Ferguson is on £3.6 million rather than £3 million. I don't know what Keegan is getting paid, but as far as I'm concerned, it is irrelevant, it's not emblematic of the club as a whole - it is fair enough for the manager to be paid a big wage, and I think it is odd to have clubs where the manager is paid significantly less than the top earning players.
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    Post by lrdsucksgoats Fri Jun 13, 2008 4:04 pm

    S4P wrote:Wenger's on £90k a week Yikes


    Golden information, to the right person.


    Which would be me.
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    Post by Football Genius Fri Jun 13, 2008 4:05 pm

    Fidel wrote:
    S4P wrote:Wenger's on £90k a week Yikes


    Golden information, to the right person.


    Which would be me.

    Laughing
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    Post by fcb Thu Jun 19, 2008 7:50 am

    So they're only hiring him because he speaks Portuguese scratch
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/c/chelsea/7462555.stm
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    Post by fcb Fri Jun 20, 2008 2:45 pm

    Portugal 2-0 Turkey
    Portugal 3-1 Czech Republic
    Chelsea announce Scolari will take over as manager
    Portugal 0-2 Switzerland
    Portugal 2-3 Germany


    Well done Chelsea Doh
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    Post by Ricardo Jol Fri Jun 20, 2008 3:10 pm

    i don't know why but i think scolari wont make it at chelsea.
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    Post by Roger Hunt Fri Jun 20, 2008 3:14 pm

    Roman needs to work out what he wants... seems like he is trying to win everything and be popular.

    If you want neutrals to like you, you get Ranieri as a manager
    If you want to win things, you get Mourinho as a manager.
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    Post by S4P Fri Jun 20, 2008 4:43 pm

    kas wrote:So they're only hiring him because he speaks Portuguese scratch
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/c/chelsea/7462555.stm

    You did the same with Mourinho.

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