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    Post by debaser Thu Oct 15, 2009 4:45 pm

    72-76-80-96-08 wrote:
    Ricardo Wetzel wrote:
    debaser wrote:Talking of fickle, which German club do you support this week?

    Leverkusen is today his cup of tea SACK Löw, Bierhoff, Zwanziger, Niersbach NOW - Page 2 Coffee1

    1. Leverkusen
    2. Hoffenheim
    3. Nürnberg
    4. WErder Bremen

    these are my four clubs now

    and they will remain so until they hire Dutch coaches

    THAT is what I call LOYALTY

    cheers

    Good work Ale
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    Post by 72-76-80-96-08 Thu Oct 15, 2009 4:52 pm

    debaser wrote:
    72-76-80-96-08 wrote:
    Ricardo Wetzel wrote:
    debaser wrote:Talking of fickle, which German club do you support this week?

    Leverkusen is today his cup of tea SACK Löw, Bierhoff, Zwanziger, Niersbach NOW - Page 2 Coffee1

    1. Leverkusen
    2. Hoffenheim
    3. Nürnberg
    4. WErder Bremen

    these are my four clubs now

    and they will remain so until they hire Dutch coaches

    THAT is what I call LOYALTY

    cheers

    Good work Ale

    Leverkusen, Hoffenheim and Bremen have coaches who will all be in charge next season as well

    Nuremberg might indeed get rid of their novice manager soon

    and IF they hire a Dutchie ,, I will indeed not support the club for the next 10 years <Ale>

    but I think Bundesliga clubs are wisening up now

    the current van Gaal fiasco coupled with the Jol, Stevens and Rutten flops has made people weary

    besides, Holland does not have many BULLETS left

    only Rijkaard and Hiddink , amongst those with a shred of international credibility left, have not tried (and failed) in the BUndesliga yet

    both would be too expensive for any club other than Bayern anyway

    I think we are good for now <Ale>
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    Post by Fey Thu Oct 15, 2009 4:53 pm

    Ricardo Wetzel wrote:
    Fey wrote:Well Otto has a fair point by saying Krautistan didnt really become any better under Löw.

    The fact that he stars in Nivea commercials for skin products for men...say's it all.

    Is Otto the last real German man?

    Tai SACK Löw, Bierhoff, Zwanziger, Niersbach NOW - Page 2 F_ale2

    The worse Germans play the better they do in a tournement! SACK Löw, Bierhoff, Zwanziger, Niersbach NOW - Page 2 F_ale2

    That's what they want you to believe! Same with their so called super winning mentality! Don't forget Germans tend to lose more finals then anyone else, on club and international level.

    It's just marketing!

    I studied the German, smelled them, observed them! And all I can say is that they remind me of a

    SACK Löw, Bierhoff, Zwanziger, Niersbach NOW - Page 2 Mossel_2

    Wahre G.
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    Post by 72-76-80-96-08 Thu Oct 15, 2009 5:04 pm

    Fey wrote:

    I studied the German, smelled them, observed them! And all I can say is that they remind me of a

    SACK Löw, Bierhoff, Zwanziger, Niersbach NOW - Page 2 Mossel_2

    Wahre G.

    what

    Germans are really BELGIANS ?!

    Shocked Biggrin
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    Post by Axeslammer Thu Oct 15, 2009 5:18 pm

    Fey wrote:

    I studied the German, smelled them, observed them! And all I can say is that they remind me of a

    SACK Löw, Bierhoff, Zwanziger, Niersbach NOW - Page 2 Mossel_2

    Wahre G.

    You of course know the joke about "how does a German open a mussel" ?
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    Post by Fey Thu Oct 15, 2009 5:21 pm

    Well the Mussel and the German have a lot more in common then you all might think.

    During the summer, Dutch beaches are filled with both of them for example. And like with the Mussel, you must know how to deal with Germans, otherwise you can get seriously ill!

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    Post by Axeslammer Thu Oct 15, 2009 5:22 pm

    Fey wrote:Well the Mussel and the German have a lot more in common then you all might think.

    During the summer, Dutch beaches are filled with both of them for example. And like with the Mussel, you must know how to deal with Germans, otherwise you can get seriously ill!

    SACK Löw, Bierhoff, Zwanziger, Niersbach NOW - Page 2 F_ale2

    You forgot that they're both at their best when fried ! Twisted Evil
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    Post by debaser Thu Oct 15, 2009 6:15 pm

    Axeslammer wrote:
    Fey wrote:Well the Mussel and the German have a lot more in common then you all might think.

    During the summer, Dutch beaches are filled with both of them for example. And like with the Mussel, you must know how to deal with Germans, otherwise you can get seriously ill!

    SACK Löw, Bierhoff, Zwanziger, Niersbach NOW - Page 2 F_ale2

    You forgot that they're both at their best when fried ! Twisted Evil

    Also, both are inferior to lobster Smiley
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    Post by Ricardo Jol Fri Oct 16, 2009 12:43 am

    Axeslammer wrote:
    Fey wrote:

    I studied the German, smelled them, observed them! And all I can say is that they remind me of a

    SACK Löw, Bierhoff, Zwanziger, Niersbach NOW - Page 2 Mossel_2

    Wahre G.

    You of course know the joke about "how does a German open a mussel" ?

    *Knock* *knock*.....AUFMACHEN!!!
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    Post by Axeslammer Fri Oct 16, 2009 12:52 am

    Ricardo Wetzel wrote:
    Axeslammer wrote:

    You of course know the joke about "how does a German open a mussel" ?

    *Knock* *knock*.....AUFMACHEN!!!

    ok

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    Post by lih88 Fri Oct 16, 2009 4:50 am

    I really don't understand why German fans wants to sack Löw. It evident that they have not too much arguments
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    Post by 72-76-80-96-08 Wed Dec 02, 2009 2:10 pm

    lih88 wrote:I really don't understand why German fans wants to sack Löw. It evident that they have not too much arguments

    Löw is CLUELESS

    that's why

    WITHOUT him (and Klinsi) we would now be reigning World and European Champs

    Shocked

    anyway

    remember how Löw threw out Frings to build up Hitzelsperger as a future DMC and LEADER of the Mannschaft ?

    well

    NOBODY else seems to rate Hitz' leadership abilities

    Babbel recently threw him out of the squad and despite pardoning him has now officially stripped him off the captaincy at Stuttgart

    saying , this way he was trying to unburden the Hitz

    cheers

    the good news is that BOTH Hitz and Khedira (who I like in general) are now out of form with Stuttgart, opening the path for a FRINGS comeback

    which would strengthen the MANNSCHAFT

    HUGELY

    cheers


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    Post by Fey Wed Dec 02, 2009 2:44 pm

    You are a sackophile Otto,

    I'm pretty sure the apprentice is your favourite TV-show!

    And you have the same haircut as Donald Trump Yikes

    Because I am willing to sexually please you, here it comes

    Otto...You are fired!
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    Post by Allez les rouges Wed Dec 02, 2009 3:55 pm

    Otto has a Trump hairstyle? Yikes
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    Post by 72-76-80-96-08 Mon Feb 08, 2010 11:36 pm

    cheers Bubbly Magic Gift Biggrin

    I am not sure how many of you FOREIGNERS have noticed

    BUT

    the MANNSCHAFT will be set FREE after the next World Cup

    Bubbly

    Löw, Bierhoff, Ziegenthaler and Co are effectively OUT

    cheers

    what did it take to get rid of them ?

    GREED

    and LUST for POWER

    contract negotiations that looked like a done deal suddenly collapsed when Bierhoff decided to "take over the DFB"

    as Beckenbauer saw it

    the old tossers in Frankfurt (+ Netzer, Beckenbauer, Effe, Kahn...) were NOT pleased and effectively told the metrosexuals they could pack their scarves and leave the building

    major league moaning and bitching ensued over the following days ("he said, she said")

    everybody is sulking

    some fear that our campaign in South Africa will be jeopardized

    but NOBODY seems to care in the Vaterland

    EVERYBODY is just chuffed to bits that the oestrogen days are over and German football will once again be driven by TESTOSTERONE

    cheers Fighting

    Heynckes is the LEADING candidate to replace the girls

    Sammer another contender

    Hrubesch would be MY favourite

    anyway, foreign chaps

    enjoy the next months when German football will still be in the hands of the BITCHES

    2004-2010 (ie the Klinsi/Löwi ERA) was what will one day be known as Germany's football DARK AGES

    2010-2030 will be when EVERY Cup will go to the Vaterland troops, bar those where we self-destruct

    because I have been lying to you Shocked

    Germany , currently, does not have an Endless Conveyor Belt of Talents

    it's a VERITABLE

    TSUNAMI of GERMAN TALENT that is about to hit the global football shores

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    Laugh



    in other words

    the global Football Gold Standard will be Black , Red. Gold once again

    and the best you Johnny Foreigners can hope for is that one of your best players will be deemed good enough to play in the Bundesliga

    <Ale>

    anyway

    I certtainly had a few glasses of champaign in celebration of the end of the Oestrogen Era

    feel free to do the same

    it's been a nightmare to be a Germany fan for the last 6 years

    HORRIFIC

    the mental scars we Mannschafters got will last for a life-time

    MANY of you foreigners are quite EVIL

    but I do not wish ANY of you the PAIN, HORROR and SUFFERING that we German MEN went through

    Yikes

    anyway

    the days of German WORLD DOMINATION are BACK

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    Bubbly
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    Post by Stiftung Haeschentest Tue Feb 09, 2010 8:54 am

    Bierhoff is already back-pedalling, Otto and a peace summit is in the making.

    So, don't get too excited! You could be setting yourself up for a massive let-down here. Whistle

    Welcome back anyway! Hug
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    Post by Axeslammer Tue Feb 09, 2010 9:13 am

    Van Gaal might be German by that time Wink
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    Post by Antarion Tue Feb 09, 2010 9:37 am

    I already started to wonder if otto survived new years celebrations Biggrin
    Because if these news don't let him show up here, what else would?

    I hope they dont get another contract after the WC. It will certainly be interesting who gets the job then. I think Sammer is the favourite.
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    Post by Stiftung Haeschentest Tue Feb 09, 2010 9:48 am

    Seriously, I think that people are getting their hopes up way too early.

    A good amount of fans on the internet may dislike him, but objectively seen, the DFB have no reason whatsoever to sack him.

    Löw has a higher points per game average than any of his predecessors.

    The fan satisfaction with the NT is at an all-time high (according to survey results).

    The complete football intelligentsia of this country (Franz, Uli, Kalle, Netzer, Effenberg, Lattek etc.) are backing Löw. None of them has ever publicly voiced any real displeasure with his work.

    And match-going fans aren't publicly calling for his head either. They are whistling players, yes, but there have yet to be any "Löw, RAUS!" shoutings.

    If Löw stops siding with Bierhoff, then I am fairly sure that the DFB will want to extend his contract after the WC (provided we don't get our collective asses kicked in SA).
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    Post by Antarion Tue Feb 09, 2010 10:02 am

    Yeah, you are probably correct, espoecially the players seem to like him. If he doesn't fail at the Cup, its hard to sack him.
    And Löw might do anything to keep this job, cause he likes it very much.
    I just hope Bierhoff dont get his veto, cause I don't like him and he doesn't like Sammer for some reason.

    Much will depend on the World Cup imo.
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    Post by Allez les rouges Tue Feb 09, 2010 10:44 am

    "I certtainly had a few glasses of champaign in celebration of the end of the Oestrogen Era"

    lol! sounds like it Otto Biggrin Bubbly

    Not even Kaymer winning something and various amusing happenings with "the englands" was enough to bring you back...

    Hotte as the favoured candidate should Jogi leave is the only bit I agree with Ale
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    Post by Stiftung Haeschentest Tue Feb 09, 2010 10:51 am

    Löw, Bierhoff, Niersbach and Zwanziger are going to hold a press conference at 2pm.

    http://www.spox.com/de/sport/fussball/rundumdenball/1002/tages-ticker-0902-hamburger-sv-ze-roberto-mohamed-zidan-wolfgang-stark-bvb-fc-bayern-muenchen.html

    Suspect

    No Sammer, please! pale
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    Post by Antarion Tue Feb 09, 2010 11:46 am

    Yeah, heared that on the radio. Will get interesting.
    Could go from having clear fronts in regards to the WC up to the announcement of a new coach...
    I still think its the first but wont rule out anything. DFB can't ignore things like that from Bierhoff.

    My guess: A new contract if Bierhoff resignes from his veto desire. Which he will do, because he dont want to lose his job.
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    Post by 72-76-80-96-08 Tue Feb 09, 2010 1:00 pm

    the pressure on Löw and the DFB to patch things up until the World Cup is huge

    the 2pm press conference today should show this

    HOWEVER

    this will only be a TRUCE, as demanded by Vogts, Völler, Dummenigge and Co

    ------

    I think most of you have NO IDEA how HATED Bierhoff is at the DFB and the Bundesliga

    word on the streets of Munich is that Rauball entered the Präsidiumssitzung last week with SPECIFIC instructions from the Bundesliga CLUBS to curb Bierhoff's ambitions

    this is NOT just Bierhoff vs Zwanziger

    it's Bierhoff vs EVERYBODY (bar Löw)

    the Chuzpah of that bastard takes some beating

    he wanted

    a) a multimillion BONUS (during times when banker bonuses get 80 million Germans furious and people talk about Hartz 4 "Tarife")

    + remember, the Mannschaft has not even been above average successful recently, and is now so unpopular in some German cities that they cannot even fill an entire stadium, like in Hannover

    b) he wanted to take over the DFB; the president was just supposed to hand over his power to Bierhoff Laugh

    c) he wanted to represent the DFB at UEFA and FIFA level

    which currently only Beckenbauer and Zwanziger do

    so really, Zwanziger would have to stay in Frankfurt so that Bierhoff can go Laugh

    d) he also wanted to be allowed to fill his own pockets again by working for NIKE, the DFB arch enemy

    Laugh

    Bierhoff is so dicredited it's unreal

    YET

    Netzer and Lattek are WRONG when they think that he is only acting on his own behalf

    both Bierhoff and Löw have said a million times that they are a team and discuss everything

    in other words, Bierhoff says what Löw agrees with

    Yikes

    Löw is now FURIOUS and even called Zwanziger a LIAR

    there is NO WAY Löw will drop Bierhoff either

    IF Germany become World Champs or runners-up, the DFB would no doubt give BOTH new contracts and more money, but I doubt Löw, who is VERY STUBBORN , would accept

    cheers

    incidentally

    nice little irony

    Frings and Ballack were FURIOUS with Löw for treating Frings without the respect they thought a Mannschaft veteran of over 70 games for the Vaterland deserved

    Löw did not seem to get this

    NOW

    Löw is furious that the DFB give him a 48 hour ULTIMATUM

    he believes that as a Leitender Angestellter of 6 years he DESERVES BETTER

    maybe Löw should not expect a kind of treatment by the DFB that he is unwilling to extend to his own players

    Doh

    as for häschen

    why do you still defend the Bundescremer ? Doh

    your own lover-boy, Metzelder, just gave an interview in kicker, where he savaged Löw

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    Post by Allez les rouges Tue Feb 09, 2010 1:19 pm

    Not available online I suppose... was he whingeing about not having been selected?!

    Hm, some classic zurückrudering from Bierhoff judging by the Liveticker Laugh

    Trying to pretend that the whole thing should never have been blown so far out of proportion and that everything will be swept aside with the WM in mind Erm

    Hard luck Otto Laughing
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    Post by Stiftung Haeschentest Tue Feb 09, 2010 1:26 pm

    Friede, Freude, Eierkuchen

    Revolution officially called off. All like each other again.

    Sleep



    @ Otto

    I don't defend Löw. I don't even mind if the DFB were to sack him after the WC. But you must be living out in La-la land if you assume that Zwanziger is going to axe Löw when he's delivering results. And Löw won't resign either. Coaching the NT is the highest office in state and Löw knows that. Ale
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    Post by Stiftung Haeschentest Tue Feb 09, 2010 1:29 pm

    Löw is majorly back-pedalling as well.

    Bierhoff is no longer a must in his team after the WC. Laugh
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    Post by Axeslammer Tue Feb 09, 2010 1:31 pm

    What were the chances of Löw being sacked after Otto made this thread ?

    .....he's made the same threads about Schaaf, Benitez and Van Gaal Whistle
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    Post by 72-76-80-96-08 Tue Feb 09, 2010 2:13 pm

    Allez les rouges wrote:Not available online I suppose... was he whingeing about not having been selected?!


    Metze was FURIOUS with Löw

    and said the Swabian had made him a scapegoat for the 2008 fiasco

    he also felt that Löw had been UNGRATEFUL

    and dropped him like a stone when things were not going well

    Metze also does not understand why Löw NEVER watched a game in Madrid even when he was playing well

    --------------

    Zwanziger will indeed NOT sack Löw

    but Löw has said a million times that he will only continue this job as part of a team that features Bierhoff, Flick, Zeigethaler and Köpke

    so much so that Oliver Pocher made an entire Sketch about it

    he also REPEATEDLY said that he would only sign a new contract , if certain structural changes were made, if he saw PROGRESS

    despite today's press conference, the DFB is clearly FINISHED with Bierhoff

    Zwanziger said Löw was irreplacable, but NOBODY else

    """

    14.22 Uhr: Zwanziger bestätigt, dass es bis nach der WM keine weiteren Gespräche geben wird: "Wenn ein gut gemeintes Projekt mal so in die Hosen geht, muss man vielleicht auch mal Zeit vergehen lassen."

    14.20 Uhr: Zwanziger erzählt, wie er die Vertragsangebote, die ihm Bierhoff übergeben hatte, empfunden hat. Es habe darin ein "Ungleichgewicht" gegeben. Heißt vermutlich: Bierhoff hat wohl tatsächlich eine Art Ausgliederung der Nationalmannschaft gefordert. Zwanziger versichert aber: "Ich habe Oliver Bierhoff gewollt, weil wir ein Gesicht brauchen. Wir haben auf einer gemeinsamen Basis nie Verträge gebraucht. Wir hatten ein vertrauensvolles Verhältnis, das nahe an einer Freundschaft war. Entsprechend war ich von den Entwicklungen wirklich auch emotional betroffen. Ich habe die Verträge gesehen und gesagt: Das geht nun aber überhaupt nicht. Wir haben heute aber gesprochen. Natürlich wird nicht alles sofort wieder so sein, wie es war, aber ich sehe gute Chancen, das Verhältnis wieder aufzubauen."
    ""

    Bierhoff presents everything as a misunderstanding now

    Laugh

    did anybody on here watch the Löw interview in Warsaw ?`

    Löw was FURIOUS and almost SHOUTING

    in his high-pitched oestrogen soaked voice

    Horeni from the FAZ already said that sources close to the Bundescremer said the Badenser had "internally" closed the Nationalmannschaft chapter

    Horeni, of course, is the "Klinsi-sprachrohr" in the German media

    @häschen

    der Drops ist gelutscht

    Heynckes or Sammer will lead us to Euro 2012 GLORY

    splendid STUFF, says I

    the MANNSCHAFT will beat the Poles in Posen, Danzig or Breslau

    Football

    truly

    is COMING HOME

    or as we Germans say

    HEIM INS REICH

    (the Kszcinski brothers will be livid, and Eva Hermann will be chuffed Biggrin )

    cheers lol!
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    Post by Ricardo Jol Tue Feb 09, 2010 2:22 pm

    Otto came back out of his beach hole cheers

    How's your vision on Van Qual today? cheers

    Ale

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