Man Utd Have The Greatest Attack - Rossi

COTR wrote:United are really proving how great their attack is without Ronaldo aren't they Batman

Your football is still horrible to watch, but berbatov has the potential to change this

yes our football is horrible to watch whilst yours is not. twat!

Dick Grayson wrote:

COTR wrote:United are really proving how great their attack is without Ronaldo aren't they Batman

Your football is still horrible to watch, but berbatov has the potential to change this

yes our football is horrible to watch whilst yours is not. twat!

Are you having trouble reading again Nutty. Who mentions Liverpool

Sir I do remember you nearly in tears at the state of your football on route to winning the CL. You were disgraced by it

Dick Grayson wrote:

COTR wrote:United are really proving how great their attack is without Ronaldo aren't they Batman

Your football is still horrible to watch, but berbatov has the potential to change this

yes our football is horrible to watch whilst yours is not. twat!

Quite, hard to comment on Uniteds football when on their day they play much better football than us

COTR wrote:

Dick Grayson wrote:

COTR wrote:United are really proving how great their attack is without Ronaldo aren't they Batman

Your football is still horrible to watch, but berbatov has the potential to change this

yes our football is horrible to watch whilst yours is not. twat!

Are you having trouble reading again Nutty. Who mentions Liverpool

Sir I do remember you nearly in tears at the state of your football on route to winning the CL. You were disgraced by it

Sir the Barca AWAY game was a horror show (the home was more accpetble!) and ONLY the Cheslea (Away) and Portsmouth (FA Cup) games were the ones i was ANGRY about!
And quite rightly so too!

But 3 games dont make a season!

I stand by my points!

Without Torres yer shite team will be even more toothless and mid-table mediocres!!!

Football Genius wrote:

Dick Grayson wrote:

COTR wrote:United are really proving how great their attack is without Ronaldo aren't they Batman

Your football is still horrible to watch, but berbatov has the potential to change this

yes our football is horrible to watch whilst yours is not. twat!

Quite, hard to comment on Uniteds football when on their day they play much better football than us

I have replied to this FG (you are the ONLY honest L'pool poster on here i think)

Dick Grayson wrote:

COTR wrote:

Dick Grayson wrote:

COTR wrote:United are really proving how great their attack is without Ronaldo aren't they Batman

Your football is still horrible to watch, but berbatov has the potential to change this

yes our football is horrible to watch whilst yours is not. twat!

Are you having trouble reading again Nutty. Who mentions Liverpool

Sir I do remember you nearly in tears at the state of your football on route to winning the CL. You were disgraced by it

Sir the Barca AWAY game was a horror show (the home was more accpetble!) and ONLY the Cheslea (Away) and Portsmouth (FA Cup) games were the ones i was ANGRY about!
And quite rightly so too!

But 3 games dont make a season!

I stand by my points!

Without Torres yer shite team will be even more toothless and mid-table mediocres!!!

Nutty ye were practically beheading the drunk for the football throughout your entire CL run. The posts are there for anyone who cares enough to go fetch them and they were very very funny


@ FG. I'm not following your logic. Why does our football have any impact on talking about the football united play

which team scored the most goals in European competition last season

@ COTR, if your judging a standard, then you are comparing it inadvertently to a bench mark, being a Liverpool fan you cannot without hypocrisy judge the football United play without comparing it to ours...

The fact is, on their day.... United have recently IMO played the best football in Europe, so the bench mark has IMO (again) been set by United.

Football Genius wrote:@ COTR, if your judging a standard, then you are comparing it inadvertently to a bench mark, being a Liverpool fan you cannot without hypocrisy judge the football United play without comparing it to ours...

The fact is, on their day.... United have recently IMO played the best football in Europe, so the bench mark has IMO (again) been set by United.

Well that is a truly bizarre assumption to insist on FG

I dare say I am far from alone in thinking that the football united play is far from exceptional (see anyone who watched any of their games in the CL last season)

Very very rarely do you see united playing good football against a top side. In fact the only performance I rated from them last season against a good side was the first half of the CL final before they reverted to the norm for the rest of the game. They save the good stuff for the premiership cannon fodder and if we are judging by that standard then most top teams from every league can claim to play brilliant football

At least be objective COTR, i can't even recall the last game where two top teams have clashed and one has dominated playing excellent football, typically its a close cagey affair, as both teams nullify each other...

In terms of free flowing football at its best United for me, are unique.

Football Genius wrote:At least be objective COTR, i can't even recall the last game where two top teams have clashed and one has dominated playing excellent football, typically its a close cagey affair, as both teams nullify each other...

In terms of free flowing football at its best United for me, are unique.

Ok then if they are unique this should be easy.

From the group stages onwards in the CL last year, name the examples of this unique, free flowing style in action, remembering this is the team who took the conscious decision to produce one of the most cowardly performances in recent times in the CL against barca ( a team horribly struggling for form) both home and away

A toast to Football Genius.

COTR wrote:

Football Genius wrote:At least be objective COTR, i can't even recall the last game where two top teams have clashed and one has dominated playing excellent football, typically its a close cagey affair, as both teams nullify each other...

In terms of free flowing football at its best United for me, are unique.

Ok then if they are unique this should be easy.

From the group stages onwards in the CL last year, name the examples of this unique, free flowing style in action, remembering this is the team who took the conscious decision to produce one of the most cowardly performances in recent times in the CL against barca ( a team horribly struggling for form) both home and away

This is true. there was none of that at all as far as i can remember except maybe against Roma at Old Traford.
like you said every time we see good football from Man utd it is against non top 4 sides. with that said like FG wrote rarely does one side in the big 4 battles play good football.

Who did play the best football in the Champions League last season?

Schalke, Porto, Roma, Real Madrid, Olympiacos, Chelsea, Liverpool, Internazionale, Celtic, Barcelona, Lyon, Man. United, Fenerbahçe, Sevilla, Arsenal, Milan.

Does any one team stand out?

SAF admitted he got his tactics wrong in the away game to Barcelona but if Ronaldo had scored that pen then the game could have been completely different, Barca might have bottled it.

Barca were in poor form but they did raise their game against us. In some peoples eyes they did have the best player in the world in their team. i think 4 of their players did help Spain win the Euros.

Liverpool fans should know of the advantages in the Champions League when you don't have to worry about winning the league.

COTR wrote:

Football Genius wrote:@ COTR, if your judging a standard, then you are comparing it inadvertently to a bench mark, being a Liverpool fan you cannot without hypocrisy judge the football United play without comparing it to ours...

The fact is, on their day.... United have recently IMO played the best football in Europe, so the bench mark has IMO (again) been set by United.

Well that is a truly bizarre assumption to insist on FG

I dare say I am far from alone in thinking that the football united play is far from exceptional (see anyone who watched any of their games in the CL last season)

Very very rarely do you see united playing good football against a top side. In fact the only performance I rated from them last season against a good side was the first half of the CL final before they reverted to the norm for the rest of the game. They save the good stuff for the premiership cannon fodder and if we are judging by that standard then most top teams from every league can claim to play brilliant football

Cotter, listen to what ye'r elders and betters are saying ye idiot...ye might learn something!

FG - i agree we have played overall the best football last season, except for the 'glitches' which i have pointed out i think we can proudly say we are the becnhmark - and the fact that we won the trophies does not necessarily support it, but the 'goals' do, the trophies are just deserts ye might say!
We DO need to iron out the incosistency which allows us to have a poor game - as in this season so far, i think, bar the Charity Shield ALL the other games have been 'very poor' by our standards! This cannot continue!
Hopefully TRW and the new TRB will be able to sort things out PLUS we have a new crop of youngsters with YOUNGER legs that are being bled, which in theory should mean fast exciting football.

Glenn Hysén wrote:which team scored the most goals in European competition last season

I think it was us and TRW was the top scorer.

Football Genius wrote:At least be objective COTR, i can't even recall the last game where two top teams have clashed and one has dominated playing excellent football, typically its a close cagey affair, as both teams nullify each other...

In terms of free flowing football at its best United for me, are unique.

LAST seasons Man Utd v Arsenal (FA Cup) was a great game if it helps FG...!

Football Genius wrote:At least be objective COTR, i can't even recall the last game where two top teams have clashed and one has dominated playing excellent football, typically its a close cagey affair, as both teams nullify each other...

In terms of free flowing football at its best United for me, are unique.

OFFICIAL INVITE TO BE A REDBLOOD:

I'm glad i've made your day Dick

However i'm a Liverpool supporter so i must respectfully decline, this doesn't mean i can't appreciate objectively United's achievements. Nobody IMO can say United were not the best club team in Europe last season overall. Instead of trying to take you guys down a peg or two, we should simply focus on our game and try to elevate our level to the standard you've set.

Theres no need for petty bickering.

Football Genius wrote:I'm glad i've made your day Dick

However i'm a Liverpool supporter so i must respectfully decline, this doesn't mean i can't appreciate objectively United's achievements. Nobody IMO can say United were not the best club team in Europe last season overall. Instead of trying to take you guys down a peg or two, we should simply focus on our game and try to elevate our level to the standard you've set.

Theres no need for petty bickering.

FG - you are a rare species of L'pool fan!


But you are quite correct. I am not saying that simply cos you made some honest/good comments about my team, but becasue you are OBJECTIVE.

The fact is i have found MUCH to criticise my team for - perhaps that is because i/we Man Utd have such HIGH expectations!

I find it cheap that certain posters point to European campaigns and say we were NOT good enough - hell, its a knock-out comp.....Chels/L'pool have shown on the past few season how UTTERLY Cr@p they are willing to play just to get through!
No excuses can be made for Barca(away) - but as a Redblood points out TRW scores penalty - and we may have been talking about 'Rape of Barca at Camp Nou' - instead we gave a diplorable performance - that i doubt ANY other team would say, we wont take the win! It was one of those games - the result mattered more in the end.

Plus i have been saying for ages The Barn Door (TBR-Rooney) needs to stand up and deliver - like TRW!
We have been lacking goals from our STRIKER(S) - hopefully this season with the new TRB (Berbatov) we can address that problem!

I am MORE excited about the development of NANI, ANDERSON and the NEW youngster this season - i think we will be RED HOT!

As for Liverpool - i will be as fair, honest and objective as you. I dont like the STYLE Liverpool play their football - i dont see what i consider attractive attacking PASSING football.
BUT Torres does lift the team to a HIGHER level than they would be without him. The same player that ALL here criticised me for praising for 3 seasons!!!

I also think Gerrard bails the team out too often - the midfeild should be better than it it - players like Penant are NOT L'pool class and the wingers seem non-existent!
I think the signing of Robbie Keane should in thoery be as good for you as Berbatov in theory should be for us!
This should ensure that you score more goals - thus draw less games - thus win more games - which may result in a serious push for the EPL.

TBH it should not be as hard as it seems for L'pool to push for the EPL - cos on paper L'pool are a stronger team/squad than Arsenal - and yet i think Arsenal (with a developing side) have still managed to finish above L'pool past few seasons!
Still.

I do watch L'pool games - and there have been many occasions last season when Torres has given magnificient displays - but much like the criticims TRW has gottten in the past - he also struggles against the top sides/defenders such as man Utd/Rio-Vidic. BUT that is an unfair cirticism, and i dont mean it like that - cos as far as i am concerned - like TRW Torres should NOT be expected to win the team ALL the games - there are other players and they NEED to shoulder some responisbilty too!

I still dont think L'pool will win the title this season - BUT i think this season could see you finish the highest - esp if you buy Gareth Barry in January! Now THAT would really improve this team.

Dick Grayson wrote:

Glenn Hysén wrote:which team scored the most goals in European competition last season

I think it was us

are you sure

Glenn Hysén wrote:

Dick Grayson wrote:

Glenn Hysén wrote:which team scored the most goals in European competition last season

I think it was us

are you sure

No, thats why i said 'think'.

Do you remember this one Dickie

Green Arrow wrote:

Yef wrote:All idiots who think 0-0 is a good result away from home - go away now.

That was worse than a defeat - the embarassment of seeing our much hyped team gain 27% possession (according to Sky) in a football match and 1, yes ONE shot on target in 90 minutes was to me WORSE than trying to play and losing 3 - 0.

I don't want to win the Champions League in a way which not only rivals our less talented rivals (Liverpool / Chelsea) but is actually more boring. I'd rather lose gloriously - and I simply cannot forgive Fergie for bottling it THIS TIME.

THIS TIME - we have the strongest team in the competition

THIS TIME - we only have domestic rivals in the final

THIS TIME - our semi-final opponents are in relegation form

THIS TIME - fergie sends our team out to defend against a team so poor in form - they couldn't work out how to put the ball in the net - I think we almost fooled them with our sheer inability to play football.

THIS TIME - Fergie is a fool - there is no excuse for that performance - it was so boring it was criminal. I don't want to win the CL playing like wimbledon - I wan't to win it playing like Manchester United.

Fergie you are to blame - and I hope you resign.

I agree with almost ALL of that. I am confounded.

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Kas wrote:Man. Utd. - an attacking team?


Brown = terrible CB
Rooney = terrible RB
Tevez = terrible DM, 2 dangerous fouls already
Ronaldo =
Keeper = can't kick

So far it's good stuff, knew our big chance would be if they froze on the big stage, and from the manager to the players, it's a massive mental failure so far from Man. Utd.

11 men behind the ball, even Liverpool only do 10.

COTR wrote:Do you remember this one Dickie

Green Arrow wrote:

Yef wrote:All idiots who think 0-0 is a good result away from home - go away now.

That was worse than a defeat - the embarassment of seeing our much hyped team gain 27% possession (according to Sky) in a football match and 1, yes ONE shot on target in 90 minutes was to me WORSE than trying to play and losing 3 - 0.

I don't want to win the Champions League in a way which not only rivals our less talented rivals (Liverpool / Chelsea) but is actually more boring. I'd rather lose gloriously - and I simply cannot forgive Fergie for bottling it THIS TIME.

THIS TIME - we have the strongest team in the competition

THIS TIME - we only have domestic rivals in the final

THIS TIME - our semi-final opponents are in relegation form

THIS TIME - fergie sends our team out to defend against a team so poor in form - they couldn't work out how to put the ball in the net - I think we almost fooled them with our sheer inability to play football.

THIS TIME - Fergie is a fool - there is no excuse for that performance - it was so boring it was criminal. I don't want to win the CL playing like wimbledon - I wan't to win it playing like Manchester United.

Fergie you are to blame - and I hope you resign.

I agree with almost ALL of that. I am confounded.

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Kas wrote:Man. Utd. - an attacking team?


Brown = terrible CB
Rooney = terrible RB
Tevez = terrible DM, 2 dangerous fouls already
Ronaldo =
Keeper = can't kick

So far it's good stuff, knew our big chance would be if they froze on the big stage, and from the manager to the players, it's a massive mental failure so far from Man. Utd.

11 men behind the ball, even Liverpool only do 10.

FFS Cotter - how stupid are ye???

I stand by those comments and veiws - i was not and am not happy when we perform UNLIKE our expected/traditional attacking style!
The fact that their is such OUTRAGE is clearly indicative of the fact that we find it UNACCEPTABLE that the ANGER is so strong that even the untouchable SAF came under fire (in all honesty that any attack on SAF is a moment of high emotional reaction than anything else - as he is irrepoachable!)
But, at least it shows that we are EXPECTING high standards constantly from out team - that the occassional BLIP causes utter pandemonioum! Unlike you lot happy to be stuck in 'neutral' gear!

As is said - i agreed with ALMOST all of that - which means NOT with SAF resigning!!

Dick Grayson wrote:
- that the occassional BLIP

Yeah something like that




Entire european campaigns have now been condensed into the two words 'occasional blip'

Batman wrote:Who did play the best football in the Champions League last season?

Roma at the Bernabeu.

Pierre Littbarski wrote:

Batman wrote:Who did play the best football in the Champions League last season?

Roma at the Bernabeu.

I agree but not because they were particular great it was more down to us playing horrible. but with no other alternative i gues that game will do. it does speak volumes of how poor Cl has gotten at least in term of entertainment. If Arsenal had kept up the first 20 some minutes against Liverpool at Anfield i would have chosen them.

Alves
Tuncay
Mido
Aliadiere

borocooper wrote:Alves
Tuncay
Mido
Aliadiere

You forgot Emnes. And the Egyptian.

Shawcking.

Shawky isn't a striker. He is a DM.

Tuncay is the best anyway followed by Mido