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    Chelsea sack Scolari!

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    Post by Glenarch of the Glen Mon Feb 09, 2009 6:15 pm

    L-r d wrote:
    Ray Parlour wrote:
    L-r d wrote:Roy Keane is a proven winner if he's given money to spend. So i don't see why his name is not among the list.

    Spent over millions in the two Premier League seasons so far Sunderland have been up and left them in the relegation zone....

    With easy fixtures coming up so the new guy could have a laugh. He wasn't sacked, he resigned. He has won 1 title in 3 years of management. He is a success and he should be the next Chelsea manager. You're an idiot if you think otherwise.


    lol!
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    Post by Romford Pele Mon Feb 09, 2009 6:16 pm

    L-r d wrote:
    Ray Parlour wrote:
    L-r d wrote:Roy Keane is a proven winner if he's given money to spend. So i don't see why his name is not among the list.

    Spent over millions in the two Premier League seasons so far Sunderland have been up and left them in the relegation zone....

    With easy fixtures coming up so the new guy could have a laugh. He wasn't sacked, he resigned. He has won 1 title in 3 years of management. He is a success and he should be the next Chelsea manager. You're an idiot if you think otherwise.

    lol! Biggest bullshit ever Laughing
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    Post by Tweesus Mon Feb 09, 2009 6:18 pm

    Torrente wrote:
    Jaime wrote:Why is there such a love affair with Mancini on this board? Oh...see, I'm with Batman on this one. ok

    I agree. The guy was lucky to coach a team that couldn't have been in an easier position to win the league for two years while not playing particularly attractive football and always choking in the CL.

    He's the obvious choice though.

    If they don't get Zola I think it'll be between Rijkaard and MAncini
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    Post by Tweesus Mon Feb 09, 2009 6:18 pm

    Is lrd being serious?
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    Post by DS Mon Feb 09, 2009 6:21 pm

    He probably wants Chelsea to fund our next signing, not happening after Mikel LRD.
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    Post by BoBo Vieri 32 Mon Feb 09, 2009 6:22 pm

    L-r d wrote:
    Ray Parlour wrote:
    L-r d wrote:Roy Keane is a proven winner if he's given money to spend. So i don't see why his name is not among the list.

    Spent over millions in the two Premier League seasons so far Sunderland have been up and left them in the relegation zone....

    With easy fixtures coming up so the new guy could have a laugh. He wasn't sacked, he resigned. He has won 1 title in 3 years of management. He is a success and he should be the next Chelsea manager. You're an idiot if you think otherwise.

    lol!
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    Post by Deluded F*ck™ Mon Feb 09, 2009 6:29 pm

    debaser wrote:JOL IN Grr

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    Post by Pierre Littbarski Mon Feb 09, 2009 6:34 pm

    I see a dream team of Bernard Lambourde, Slavisa Jokanovic and "steady" Eddie Newton <Ale>
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    Post by S4P Mon Feb 09, 2009 6:44 pm

    Has lerd been sniffing the glue stick again?
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    Post by BoBo Vieri 32 Mon Feb 09, 2009 6:50 pm

    Pierre Littbarski wrote:I see a dream team of Bernard Lambourde, Slavisa Jokanovic and "steady" Eddie Newton <Ale>

    you forgot John Spencer ok
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    Post by fenerliyim Mon Feb 09, 2009 6:51 pm

    lol its going to be Fatih Terim at Chelsea
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    Post by Romford Pele Mon Feb 09, 2009 6:51 pm

    He'd be an excellent choice.
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    Post by Pierre Littbarski Mon Feb 09, 2009 6:55 pm

    Ray Parlour wrote:He'd be an excellent choice.

    Would love to see him in EPL.

    Him and van Gaal.
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    Post by COTR Mon Feb 09, 2009 7:00 pm

    Martin O'Neill ???? is a ................
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    Post by Di Caniooooo! Mon Feb 09, 2009 7:34 pm

    I was eating sushi at a sushi bar when I saw the news, almost lost a piece of tomagado out of my mouth, lol.
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    Post by Aristoskank Mon Feb 09, 2009 7:45 pm

    Thanks for the update.
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    Post by bluenine Mon Feb 09, 2009 7:49 pm

    Torrente wrote:
    Jaime wrote:Why is there such a love affair with Mancini on this board? Oh...see, I'm with Batman on this one. ok

    I agree. The guy was lucky to coach a team that couldn't have been in an easier position to win the league for two years while not playing particularly attractive football and always choking in the CL.

    I think you guys are being a bit too harsh on Mancini... he inherited a club which just did not know how to win anything, having a dysfunction team for far too long, full of highly paid primadonnas and unbalanced as hell.

    He then won trophies every season of his tenure, starting with the Coppa. He created one of the best squads in europe, perfectly balanced to implement his 442, with one quality back up for every position, and actually spent less money to do this (per season) than his predecessors.

    The Inter of 2006-07 was the strongest Inter team I have seen in 25 years, probbaly the strongest ever. You obviously haven't seen that team play in Serie A if you say Mancio's team was not attractive in its play... sure, they did not attack like Brasil, but they attacked with such confidence and relentless power that it was as attractive as it can get. That team won more points than any team has in the history of Serie A, much much more. Sure, there was no Juve, and Milan has a 8 point penalty. But you only need to read the comments Milan fans before that season started (most were confident that they will overhaul just 8 points easily over the season) and then see the end result (Inter finished 38 points over Milan) to see the impact that team made. 17 consecutive wins, it was the most unbelievable run I have seen in any top league.

    When you see Mourinho struggling with that Inter, after spending over 50M on Mancio's squad, only to revert back to Mancio's strategy/formation, then you realise what contribution Mancio made at Inter.

    Sure, Mancio did not do well in europe. But in his last 2 seasons in the CL, it was also down to key injuries / red cards, so luck had a big part to play in that.

    Mancio has won trophies with all 3 clubs he has coached, overachieved in all of them. Not saying whether he is right for Chelsea or not, but IMO Mancio is good enough for any club on the planet. He instills a winning mentality to his team everytime, and he has improved as a manager every year.
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    Post by Luis Mon Feb 09, 2009 8:02 pm

    Should never have sacked the jew.

    Mourinho back to Chelsea no doubt..
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    Post by Torrente Mon Feb 09, 2009 8:07 pm

    @bluenine

    I think any top coach would have won the league in those years if they were in the situation Mancini was in. Not only was Juve relegated and Milan, Florentina, and Lazio penalized, but Inter managed to snatch Ibrahimovic and Vieira as well as being the only top Italian club worth going to for that season given the mess the other clubs were in. While in the end most clubs ended up getting their point deductions overturned, this was after the season had started, hence making their summer purchases extremely difficult.

    And Inter may have broken all sorts of records, but so did Schuster's Real Madrid, and yet you will find few Madrid fans who consider him to be a great coach (even though I think he deserved a lot more credit than given by others for those achievements). Sorry, but I don't see much value in breaking records at a time when every top team in the league is in a big mess. Inter had the chance to prove themselves in the CL against stable opposition, and they fell short every time. That was the real test for me, but Mancini was just unable to outsmart his opposition. It's not that Inter was unfairly eliminated from any of those CLs, despite the injuries/suspensions they may have had.

    I also see things more on a relative level. You claim that this was the best Inter side you've ever seen for the past 25 years, but how can you be so sure given the lack of quality from the opposition? Don't you think maybe you failed to see past the fact that Inter's opposition was severely lacking? The following season the opposition wasn't even that much better while Inter kept all their key players, and yet Inter barely managed to win the league in the last day of the league.

    I don't have anything against Inter. As far as I'm concerned they deserved to win those leagues since it's not their fault that other teams cheated. But in terms of how great of an achievement it was on Mancini's terms, my opinion differs from yours significantly.
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    Post by Deluded F*ck™ Mon Feb 09, 2009 9:10 pm

    fenerliyim wrote:lol its going to be Fatih Terim at Chelsea

    He'd be awesome.
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    Post by Deluded F*ck™ Mon Feb 09, 2009 9:18 pm

    Vitesse Glennhem wrote:and now I have the booty butt-cheeks song stuck in my head Rolling Eyes

    lol!

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    Post by TheCrazy58 Mon Feb 09, 2009 9:33 pm

    It looks like, as was the case with Mourinho's dismissal, this is Moneybags' doing. However, for a different reason - Mourinho got on his nerves just once too much, whereas Scolari, by his account, met him for only a few times and didn't even get the chance to rub him up the wrong way. It smacks of a rather panicky reaction at Chelsea's poor form and the prospect of an early exit from Champions League and (real) possibility of not qualifying for the next season's tournament. A lot of it to do with pride, since winning the CL was the reason why Moneybags bought Chelsea in the first place. However it may also be an indication of Moneybags' current financial circumstances that the possibility of losing out on CL TV income may be unacceptable in the short-term, as is being stuck with a non-top four, UEFA Cup playing club that he won't be able to sell at anywhere near the price he would want, in the long-term. (I would think the latter to be more of a driving force as having to pay off Scolari probably equals losing out on CL income anyway)

    Sacking the manager at this stage in the season, with each league match a six-pointer and the crucial CL k/o stage coming up, without a replacement on standby, seems hardly credible. However as was the case with Mourinho's dismissal that's what appears to have happened. There possiblity of getting a plausible, top-name replacement for the rest of the season looks remote unless Moneybags can arrange for the Russian mob to kidnap Hiddink, or Mancini can be persuaded take on the job (I suppose he'll cost them). So.....is it going to be Ray Wilkins? or even the return of Uncle Fester? Laugh

    The moral for Chelsea fans and parts of the dressing room who wanted Scolari out (as I'm sure Terry and Lumpard did): Be careful what you wish for.

    ps. I think Scolari will end up going back to his old job with Portugal after Queiroz lose their next WC qualifying match.
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    Post by Dick Grayson Mon Feb 09, 2009 9:49 pm

    Just came home having heard the news of Phil being sacked - cant believe it...i will have to read 6 damn pages now!

    What happened???


    The only silver lining is that Butch Wilkins is in charge! ok
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    Post by Dick Grayson Mon Feb 09, 2009 9:53 pm

    Ballack wrote:we're a bit big of a joke of a football club at the moment.
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    Post by Dick Grayson Mon Feb 09, 2009 9:57 pm

    GianDeano Zola wrote:Zola is going nowhere...Chelsea can fuck off. Zola said yesterday he will not walk out for Chelsea, as no other club would give him this opportunity...and he owes a lot to us.

    He is an honest and honourable man...and I believe he won't fuck off to those silly Russian bastards...

    Zolas heart is was and always will be at Chelshit....the little (honorable) fool actually genuinely loves the contes!

    Goodbye to Hammers, say hello Ince at Upton Park
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    Post by Dick Grayson Mon Feb 09, 2009 9:58 pm

    Vitesse Glennhem wrote:
    GianDeano Zola wrote:Zola is going nowhere...Chelsea can fuck off. Zola said yesterday he will not walk out for Chelsea, as no other club would give him this opportunity...and he owes a lot to us.

    He is an honest and honourable man...and I believe he won't fuck off to those silly Russian bastards...

    lol!

    if your girlfriend asks you "will you ever cheat on me with your ex?"

    you say "of course not!"

    it's an entirely different matter when your ex is lying naked in your bed, lubing up her butthole.

    Keep your filthy gay-sex to yourself Glenda!!! No
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    Post by forza_rossi Mon Feb 09, 2009 9:58 pm

    Ince = TRN?? bounce
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    Post by Dick Grayson Mon Feb 09, 2009 10:07 pm

    forza_rossi wrote:Ince = TRN?? bounce

    The Red Negro?


    BTW - i will throw my 'serious' contender...Terry 'Tezza' Venebales! cheers
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    Post by forza_rossi Mon Feb 09, 2009 10:28 pm

    NO u plank the red-non white Rolling Eyes
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    Post by Six Mon Feb 09, 2009 10:39 pm

    Surely if you are going to sack a manager in february then you should just act early and move before the transfer window?

    Quaresma gets 1 game under Scolari, what's the point?

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