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best strikers around atm

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best strikers around atm

by Calidad Thu Feb 12, 2009 5:48 pm

What does everyone think then? I'm sure they'll be a few conflicting views, but will hopefully produce some heatlhy debate.

Is it man of the moment Villa? Or do people still feel that a fit and focused Drogba is a defenders worst nightmare?

Try not to go on about forwards (i.e Ronaldo, Messi etc) - unless you really believe they are strikers!

Some of my mates even believe that there is NO outstanding striker around atm, like Ronaldo, Batistuta, RVN, Shevchenko of yester-year. I don't agree with that though.

Any opinions?

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Re: best strikers around atm

by Fey Thu Feb 12, 2009 5:55 pm

Good thread, since I read a lot of garbage about Villa being best.

Zlatan is so much superior then Villa its insane.

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Re: best strikers around atm

by Machiavel Thu Feb 12, 2009 5:56 pm

I think Samuel Eto’o is worth a shout, given what was happening before this season and what people expected of him, didn’t Guardiola have his doubts? – He’s showed that the form of last season was just temporary and class is always permanent.

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Re: best strikers around atm

by toon h Thu Feb 12, 2009 5:59 pm

Villa will only really show just how good he is when he plays for a club like Barcelona where he will, I believe, be even more prolific than Eto'o. IMO, Villa is better than Eto'o and I would love him to replace Eto'o at the end of the season, when I feel he needs to go to refresh the dressing room and fill it with a hungry player like Villa.

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Re: best strikers around atm

by Tweesus Thu Feb 12, 2009 6:01 pm

I'm guessing we're not counting wing forwards as strikers?

And what about support strikers? For instance, does RVP count?

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Re: best strikers around atm

by Jaime Thu Feb 12, 2009 6:02 pm

Villa is the best just at the moment although Eto'o still comes a close second. I do agree that there aren't as many top class goalscorers. There are some outstanding forward players but there doesn't seem to be as many prolific scorers (like you mention Ronaldo, Batistuta, Shevchenko). Maybe has something to do with more and more teams moving to only play with one forward.

If I had to make a top five right now I'd say Villa, Eto'o, Torres, Diego Milito, and Forlan.

But I do think there are some strikers coming up that could be great like Benzema, Higuain, Aguero, Pato.

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Re: best strikers around atm

by Tweesus Thu Feb 12, 2009 6:04 pm

Jaime wrote:
If I had to make a top five right now I'd say Villa, Eto'o, Torres, Diego Milito, and Forlan.

lol!

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Re: best strikers around atm

by Jaime Thu Feb 12, 2009 6:05 pm

Tweedle wrote:

Jaime wrote:
If I had to make a top five right now I'd say Villa, Eto'o, Torres, Diego Milito, and Forlan.

Who's better, Bendtner?

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Re: best strikers around atm

by Tweesus Thu Feb 12, 2009 6:07 pm

Jaime wrote:

Tweedle wrote:

Jaime wrote:
If I had to make a top five right now I'd say Villa, Eto'o, Torres, Diego Milito, and Forlan.

Who's better, Bendtner?

Ibrah, Berbatov, RVP, Pato and possibly Benzema are all better than Forlan and Milito

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Re: best strikers around atm

by Fey Thu Feb 12, 2009 6:08 pm

Tweedle wrote:

Jaime wrote:

Tweedle wrote:

Jaime wrote:
If I had to make a top five right now I'd say Villa, Eto'o, Torres, Diego Milito, and Forlan.

Who's better, Bendtner?

Ibrah, Berbatov, RVP, Pato and possibly Benzema are all better than Forlan and Milito

<Ale>

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Re: best strikers around atm

by Calidad Thu Feb 12, 2009 6:09 pm

If you can make a case for RVP to be included then do. RVP currently play's a part of a front two doesn't he, so I think that's reasonable. He's obviously entirely different to a Huntelaar for example however.

But yes, I would include SS's.

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Re: best strikers around atm

by Calidad Thu Feb 12, 2009 6:10 pm

To be fair Milito and has been quality this season, and Forlan is a different player to the one that played for Utd. Not sure he's be in my top 5 though.

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Re: best strikers around atm

by Jaime Thu Feb 12, 2009 6:10 pm

Tweedle wrote:

Jaime wrote:

Tweedle wrote:

Jaime wrote:
If I had to make a top five right now I'd say Villa, Eto'o, Torres, Diego Milito, and Forlan.

Who's better, Bendtner?

Ibrah, Berbatov, RVP, Pato and possibly Benzema are all better than Forlan and Milito

Are we talking about goalscoring centre forwards because if so then no to most of the ones you list. If you are talking about footballing ability then yes of course Ibrahimovic and Berbatov and van Persie are better.

Pato is close, so is Benzema.

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Re: best strikers around atm

by L r dd Thu Feb 12, 2009 6:11 pm

If Afonso never left Hereveen, i bet every dutch would throw his name down first

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Re: best strikers around atm

by Tweesus Thu Feb 12, 2009 6:11 pm

Calidad wrote:To be fair Milito and has been quality this season, and Forlan is a different player to the one that played for Utd. Not sure he's be in my top 5 though.

I know Forlan is a completely different player but I think to include him in a world top 5 is a bit extreme.

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Re: best strikers around atm

by Tweesus Thu Feb 12, 2009 6:13 pm

Jaime wrote:

Tweedle wrote:

Jaime wrote:

Tweedle wrote:

Jaime wrote:
If I had to make a top five right now I'd say Villa, Eto'o, Torres, Diego Milito, and Forlan.

Who's better, Bendtner?

Ibrah, Berbatov, RVP, Pato and possibly Benzema are all better than Forlan and Milito

Are we talking about goalscoring centre forwards because if so then no to most of the ones you list. If you are talking about footballing ability then yes of course Ibrahimovic and Berbatov and van Persie are better.

Pato is close, so is Benzema.

If this about goalscoring forwards then should Toni not be in there? And huntelaar maybe too? A case could also be made for Adebayor

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by BoBo Vieri 32 Thu Feb 12, 2009 6:14 pm

and Trezeguet.

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Re: best strikers around atm

by Jaime Thu Feb 12, 2009 6:14 pm

Tweedle wrote:

Jaime wrote:

Tweedle wrote:

Jaime wrote:

Tweedle wrote:

Jaime wrote:
If I had to make a top five right now I'd say Villa, Eto'o, Torres, Diego Milito, and Forlan.

Who's better, Bendtner?

Ibrah, Berbatov, RVP, Pato and possibly Benzema are all better than Forlan and Milito

Are we talking about goalscoring centre forwards because if so then no to most of the ones you list. If you are talking about footballing ability then yes of course Ibrahimovic and Berbatov and van Persie are better.

Pato is close, so is Benzema.

If this about goalscoring forwards then should Toni not be in there? And huntelaar maybe too? A case could also be made for Adebayor

They could be but I don't think Toni or Huntelaar (definitely not Huntelaar) or Adebayor are better than the ones I listed. Ale

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by L r dd Thu Feb 12, 2009 6:14 pm

BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:and Trezeguet.

Lets not be silly

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Re: best strikers around atm

by Jaime Thu Feb 12, 2009 6:15 pm

Trezeguet several years ago maybe.

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by BoBo Vieri 32 Thu Feb 12, 2009 6:16 pm

It was only last season that he was 2nd topscorer in Serie A.

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Re: best strikers around atm

by BoBo Vieri 32 Thu Feb 12, 2009 6:17 pm

L-r d wrote:

BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:and Trezeguet.

Lets not be silly

Lets not be a twat

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Re: best strikers around atm

by Super Progress Thu Feb 12, 2009 6:17 pm

Tweedle wrote:

Jaime wrote:

Tweedle wrote:

Jaime wrote:

Tweedle wrote:

Jaime wrote:
If I had to make a top five right now I'd say Villa, Eto'o, Torres, Diego Milito, and Forlan.

Who's better, Bendtner?

Ibrah, Berbatov, RVP, Pato and possibly Benzema are all better than Forlan and Milito

Are we talking about goalscoring centre forwards because if so then no to most of the ones you list. If you are talking about footballing ability then yes of course Ibrahimovic and Berbatov and van Persie are better.

Pato is close, so is Benzema.

If this about goalscoring forwards then should Toni not be in there? And huntelaar maybe too? A case could also be made for Adebayor

Do you actually trust Adebayor to consistently score goals? I think Van Persie is better in this regard and I think Ade will prob struggle to get that many goals against as he did last season. Of course you could argue about Torres but he has gotten some goals in La Liga.
Huntelaar is a good goalscorer but we have to see how he does in La Liga.
Forlan I don't see as a great goalscorer because he is quite similar to Rooney in that he tends to his goals in flows.
Milito is one of the few strikers out there right now who I think has that clinical edge to them. Trezeguet/Villa is others and Benzema also seems to have it.

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Re: best strikers around atm

by Tweesus Thu Feb 12, 2009 6:18 pm

Jaime wrote:They could be but I don't think Toni or Huntelaar (definitely not Huntelaar) or Adebayor are better than the ones I listed.

Better at what? goalscoring? What do you mean by goalscoring then? Just finishing?

Adebayor got 24 league goals last season and has 8 in 19 this season (and he's been off form)

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Re: best strikers around atm

by Fey Thu Feb 12, 2009 6:19 pm

Why include Huntelaar??? How many goals did he score for Madrid then???

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Re: best strikers around atm

by Jaime Thu Feb 12, 2009 6:20 pm

Tweedle wrote:

Jaime wrote:They could be but I don't think Toni or Huntelaar (definitely not Huntelaar) or Adebayor are better than the ones I listed.

Better at what? goalscoring? What do you mean by goalscoring then? Just finishing?

Adebayor got 24 league goals last season and has 8 in 19 this season (and he's been off form)

What the hell does anyone mean by goalscoring. It means scoring a f*cking goal. If you like Adebayor, then put him in your list.

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Re: best strikers around atm

by Tweesus Thu Feb 12, 2009 6:20 pm

Well if we're talking about converting chances into goals, I'm not sure Torres should be in there, or Eto'o. Pato should be though.

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Re: best strikers around atm

by Jaime Thu Feb 12, 2009 6:20 pm

Fey wrote:Why include Huntelaar??? How many goals did he score for Madrid then???

ZERO

Soldado > Huntelaar Ale

Ale

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Re: best strikers around atm

by Football Genius Thu Feb 12, 2009 6:23 pm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/top_scorers/default.stm

Gerrard and Lampard above Ade and RVP Wink

Wink

Anelka anyone Laugh

Laugh

Precisely why goals cannot be the only measure of a quality striker.

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Re: best strikers around atm

by COTR Thu Feb 12, 2009 6:23 pm

Tweedle wrote:Well if we're talking about converting chances into goals, I'm not sure Torres should be in there, or Eto'o. Pato should be though.

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