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    Post by L r dd Tue Apr 21, 2009 2:48 pm

    Kimbo wrote:
    L-r d wrote:
    Kimbo wrote:It makes no difference what the top 4 do, or how many trophies they win, none of them will be manager of the season in my eyes. Neither will O'Neill with the massive resources he has.

    The only possibles for me are Hodgson, Zola, and Moyes - in that order.

    I don't know why Redknapp is being discussed. Awful manager.

    What about if they win every game 10-0 except two draws v newcastle

    What if an elephant eats Ferguson on the morning of the CL final, does Fergie get credit if Man U win?

    Well they probably would have won it for Fergie so i'd say so.
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    Post by fcb Tue Apr 21, 2009 2:55 pm

    Riviera wrote:Hodgson cheers Next year will be even better, me thinks, before he'll eventually manage England national team

    He needs to maintain the same luck he had this season in terms of avoiding injuries.
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    Post by Axeslammer Tue Apr 21, 2009 2:59 pm

    Hiddink, Rijkaard, McClaren, Adriaanse or Van Gaal Ale
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    Post by Tweesus Tue Apr 21, 2009 3:34 pm

    How has Mclaren done at FC Twente Axes?
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    Post by Axeslammer Tue Apr 21, 2009 4:19 pm

    Tweedle wrote:How has Mclaren done at FC Twente Axes?

    He still has to make it count (finish second and/or win the cup), but he has impressed almost every Dutchie so far Ale

    Under him Twente plays what we call "well groomed" football ok
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    Post by Tweesus Tue Apr 21, 2009 4:43 pm

    Is that what we call in England percentage play?
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    Post by debaser Tue Apr 21, 2009 4:46 pm

    More importantly, is he speaking any Dutch yet or still just faking the accent?
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    Post by Aristoskank Tue Apr 21, 2009 4:54 pm

    Even more importantly, does he have a reliable stock of umbrellas?
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    Post by Fey Tue Apr 21, 2009 4:58 pm

    And even more importantly, was he impressed with the atmosphere on saturday?? Yes, he was!

    Proper geezer!
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    Post by Axeslammer Tue Apr 21, 2009 5:10 pm

    Tweedle wrote:Is that what we call in England percentage play?

    Far from it.

    It's a combination of structured and attractive.
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    Post by christmasborocooper Tue Apr 21, 2009 5:18 pm

    He had us playing some attractive stuff for one or two seasons. He definitely has some ideas..but sometimes he's god awful.
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    Post by Isco Benny Tue Apr 21, 2009 6:02 pm

    kas wrote:But let's not forget Redknapp spent 30m on just 2 players in January, and more on others like Chimbonda who have hardly played since. That's a luxury other managers in the "exceeded expectations" group didn't have, Hodgson and Zola being the best examples.

    You can flip this argument on it's head and say that of Hodgson, Zola and Redknapp - he's been the one with the least time to build his own team or turns things around, with a team with the least points.

    so having more money to spend merely evens these issue out Wink
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    Post by Isco Benny Tue Apr 21, 2009 6:12 pm

    Kimbo wrote:It makes no difference what the top 4 do, or how many trophies they win, none of them will be manager of the season in my eyes. Neither will O'Neill with the massive resources he has.

    The only possibles for me are Hodgson, Zola, and Moyes - in that order.

    I don't know why Redknapp is being discussed. Awful manager.

    scratch Silly Kimboner,

    an awful manager is clearly one who is unable to get their side to win matches, or play decent football (usually both)

    Redknapp clearly knows how to get a team playing decent football (as shown by his time at West Ham, Portsmouth and now Spurs) and win games (as shown by his time at Portsmouth and now Spurs).

    so he clearly isn't an AWFUL manager.

    An awful manager would be someone like Alan Shearer, or Tony Adams, or Sam "anti-football" Allardyce.

    Redknapp's only awful because you're a grumpy Geordie b*stard who hasn't a decent word to say about Spurs, now or ever Ale
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    Post by Kimbo Tue Apr 21, 2009 6:32 pm

    The Tupac Twitch wrote: scratch Silly Kimboner,

    an awful manager is clearly one who is unable to get their side to win matches, or play decent football (usually both)

    Redknapp clearly knows how to get a team playing decent football (as shown by his time at West Ham, Portsmouth and now Spurs) and win games (as shown by his time at Portsmouth and now Spurs).

    so he clearly isn't an AWFUL manager.

    An awful manager would be someone like Alan Shearer, or Tony Adams, or Sam "anti-football" Allardyce.

    Redknapp's only awful because you're a grumpy Geordie b*stard who hasn't a decent word to say about Spurs, now or ever Ale

    He's not just a poor shithouse manager, he is a terrible human being. He looks like satans eunuch, he has horrible character - devious and in bed with the tabloids, and i would guess is nasty to his children. He's corrupt and should be kicked out of the sport.

    Now onto his managerial abilities, or lack thereof!! This is a person who has managed for close to 30 years, won 1 trophy, and thinks he's the shit because of it. Terribly arrogant creature, aswell as stupid. In all this time he has never risen above mediocre in this league. Yet for some reason he is rated, partly because he keeps in with the tabloids by feeding them rumours in a very underhand way, and partly because he represents the dim bosseyed cockney that everyone seems to love, like Jim from Eastenders, but an evil version. I don't think his football is decent at all, you've pointed out Pompey as an example of this, why? At Pompey he packed the midfield with the likes of Diop, Mvemba, Davis, Hughes, it was an awful team that relied on being bigger and stronger than the opposition.

    Maybe AWFUL is taking it a bit far when it comes to his competence, perhaps stunningly average would be more acceptable. I admit there are worse managers in the league, Brown, Pulis, Allardyce, Sbragia, and Megson. That's the best i can do for you, i've tried to look at him in a positive light there. Bubbly
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    Post by Sheffield gunner Tue Apr 21, 2009 6:43 pm

    Is Pulis an awful manager? No doubt that Stoke play horrendous football, but he turned around a team at the lower end of the Championship. He made astute loan signings to propel them up the league and now looks like keeping a small team, with an inexpensive squad in the top flight when most people would have predicted them to go down. If everything goes well for them, they could finish this season comfortably in the top half of the table, which is an impressive achievement. He's not a great manager, and I can't imagine him managing a 'big' club, or even a mid-size Premier League club, but for Stoke he does a fine job.

    And being an unpleasant person has no bearing on management skills. There are some very good managers who come across as extremely unpleasant people to me. Redknapp is a prick, but he's a pretty decent manager.
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    Post by Cesc Soler Tue Apr 21, 2009 6:46 pm

    ok

    Very well said SG, the signing of James Beattie was probably one of the best moves made by a manager this season. Kudos to him.
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    Post by Kimbo Tue Apr 21, 2009 6:47 pm

    Sheffield gunner wrote:Is Pulis an awful manager? No doubt that Stoke play horrendous football, but he turned around a team at the lower end of the Championship. He made astute loan signings to propel them up the league and now looks like keeping a small team, with an inexpensive squad in the top flight when most people would have predicted them to go down. If everything goes well for them, they could finish this season comfortably in the top half of the table, which is an impressive achievement. He's not a great manager, and I can't imagine him managing a 'big' club, or even a mid-size Premier League club, but for Stoke he does a fine job.

    And being an unpleasant person has no bearing on management skills. There are some very good managers who come across as extremely unpleasant people to me. Redknapp is a prick, but he's a pretty decent manager.

    He might be a good championship manager, but in the premiership they haven't played football. The refs need to watch them closely next season, if they didn't get away with all the time wasting, hacking etc they would already be relegated. It's the equivalent of a boxer hugging, headbutting and lowblowing their way to victory. Should they be given credit for it? No.
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    Post by Deano Tue Apr 21, 2009 6:49 pm

    I think Pulis is a good manager, as he has done what's needed for Stoke to survive...

    Brown is an example of a poor manager, once the luck dried up, Hull had no answers. Pulis might have Stoke playing unattractive football...but they battle and have earned their place in the Premier League.
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    Post by Romford Pele Tue Apr 21, 2009 6:52 pm

    GianDeano Zola wrote:I think Pulis is a good manager, as he has done what's needed for Stoke to survive...

    Brown is an example of a poor manager, once the luck dried up, Hull had no answers. Pulis might have Stoke playing unattractive football...but they battle and have earned their place in the Premier League.
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    Post by L r dd Tue Apr 21, 2009 7:35 pm

    Brown got sucked in by the hype. He then humilated his players at half time in one match they've barely got a point since.
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    Post by Isco Benny Tue Apr 21, 2009 7:43 pm

    Kimbo wrote:
    The Tupac Twitch wrote: scratch Silly Kimboner,

    an awful manager is clearly one who is unable to get their side to win matches, or play decent football (usually both)

    Redknapp clearly knows how to get a team playing decent football (as shown by his time at West Ham, Portsmouth and now Spurs) and win games (as shown by his time at Portsmouth and now Spurs).

    so he clearly isn't an AWFUL manager.

    An awful manager would be someone like Alan Shearer, or Tony Adams, or Sam "anti-football" Allardyce.

    Redknapp's only awful because you're a grumpy Geordie b*stard who hasn't a decent word to say about Spurs, now or ever Ale

    He's not just a poor shithouse manager, he is a terrible human being. He looks like satans eunuch, he has horrible character - devious and in bed with the tabloids, and i would guess is nasty to his children. He's corrupt and should be kicked out of the sport.

    Now onto his managerial abilities, or lack thereof!! This is a person who has managed for close to 30 years, won 1 trophy, and thinks he's the shit because of it. Terribly arrogant creature, aswell as stupid. In all this time he has never risen above mediocre in this league. Yet for some reason he is rated, partly because he keeps in with the tabloids by feeding them rumours in a very underhand way, and partly because he represents the dim bosseyed cockney that everyone seems to love, like Jim from Eastenders, but an evil version. I don't think his football is decent at all, you've pointed out Pompey as an example of this, why? At Pompey he packed the midfield with the likes of Diop, Mvemba, Davis, Hughes, it was an awful team that relied on being bigger and stronger than the opposition.

    Maybe AWFUL is taking it a bit far when it comes to his competence, perhaps stunningly average would be more acceptable. I admit there are worse managers in the league, Brown, Pulis, Allardyce, Sbragia, and Megson. That's the best i can do for you, i've tried to look at him in a positive light there. Bubbly

    Redknapp's route to the top tier was slow - this is how it was back in the day.

    I admit he's a bit of a silly c**t, but pointing to his silverware record in the last 30 years is hardly telling, seeing as he's never managed a consistently "big" club in his career, and that about 7 teams in England have won all the silverware available in the last decade in the Prem.

    In the last decade he managed a West Ham side renowned for playing decent football and gave the likes of Lampard, Cole, Ferdinand and Carrick their chance in the first team,

    at Portsmouth he took a first division side into the Premiership and into Europe, winning an FA cup in the process. Despite what you think, Redknapp's Portsmouth were always one of the better footballing sides in the league - Muntari, Diarra, Diop were big guys but all of them could play aswell too. For that size of club (no bigger than Stoke), he turned what was a side with little money and small fan base into an extremely useful Premiership side.

    He is no Alex Ferguson, but he isn't AWFUL. Infact, he's pretty decent. He's made good signings for us, and got us playing good stuff whilst being strong defensively.

    We'll see exactly how far he can realistically take us, but for now I'm quite satisfied (and slightly impressed) with the job he's done for us Ale
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    Post by Aristoskank Tue Apr 21, 2009 7:46 pm

    GianDeano Zola wrote:I think Pulis is a good manager, as he has done what's needed for Stoke to survive...

    Brown is an example of a poor manager, once the luck dried up, Hull had no answers. Pulis might have Stoke playing unattractive football...but they battlerun and foul their balls off and have earned their place in the Premier League.

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    Post by debaser Tue Apr 21, 2009 7:49 pm

    Stimulus Package wrote:
    GianDeano Zola wrote:I think Pulis is a good manager, as he has done what's needed for Stoke to survive...

    Brown is an example of a poor manager, once the luck dried up, Hull had no answers. Pulis might have Stoke playing unattractive football...but they battlerun and foul their balls off and score annoying last minute goals and have earned their place in the Premier League.

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    Post by Sgoater1 Tue Apr 21, 2009 8:29 pm

    Its a tough one between Hodgson and Pulis.
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    Post by Kimbo Tue Apr 21, 2009 8:37 pm

    Sgoater1 wrote:Its a tough one between Hodgson and Pulis.

    Wash your mouth out.
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    Post by Sgoater1 Tue Apr 21, 2009 8:46 pm

    Kimbo wrote:
    Sgoater1 wrote:Its a tough one between Hodgson and Pulis.

    Wash your mouth out.

    I think he has done a great job, when can you rmember a team being promoted to the EPL and being in mid table safe from relegation without spending loads of money. You have to give him credit, they didnt even win the championship last season and everyone wrote them off before the season had started. They dont play pretty football but they are effective and he has done a good job with them.
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    Post by Kimbo Tue Apr 21, 2009 8:50 pm

    Sgoater1 wrote:
    Kimbo wrote:
    Sgoater1 wrote:Its a tough one between Hodgson and Pulis.

    Wash your mouth out.

    I think he has done a great job, when can you rmember a team being promoted to the EPL and being in mid table safe from relegation without spending loads of money. You have to give him credit, they didnt even win the championship last season and everyone wrote them off before the season had started. They dont play pretty football but they are effective and he has done a good job with them.

    But they're cheaters goater. scratch
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    Post by Deluded F*ck™ Tue Apr 21, 2009 8:51 pm

    Kimbo wrote:
    Sgoater1 wrote:
    Kimbo wrote:
    Sgoater1 wrote:Its a tough one between Hodgson and Pulis.

    Wash your mouth out.

    I think he has done a great job, when can you rmember a team being promoted to the EPL and being in mid table safe from relegation without spending loads of money. You have to give him credit, they didnt even win the championship last season and everyone wrote them off before the season had started. They dont play pretty football but they are effective and he has done a good job with them.

    But they're cheaters goater. scratch

    I don't think they cheat, they just mix sports - Association Rugby football.
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    Post by debaser Tue Apr 21, 2009 8:53 pm

    Sgoater1 wrote:
    Kimbo wrote:
    Sgoater1 wrote:Its a tough one between Hodgson and Pulis.

    Wash your mouth out.

    I think he has done a great job, when can you rmember a team being promoted to the EPL and being in mid table safe from relegation without spending loads of money.
    Wigan, Reading?
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    Post by Sgoater1 Tue Apr 21, 2009 9:04 pm

    debaser wrote:
    Sgoater1 wrote:
    Kimbo wrote:
    Sgoater1 wrote:Its a tough one between Hodgson and Pulis.

    Wash your mouth out.

    I think he has done a great job, when can you rmember a team being promoted to the EPL and being in mid table safe from relegation without spending loads of money.
    Wigan, Reading?

    Both good points, i was a bit quick to comment there. Also Ipswich did it in their first season Very Happy Anyway, i still think he has done a good job. I think Bruce also deserves a lot of credit seen as he has lost a few of his best players not just in the summer but during thr season in Heskey and Palocios but has managed to keep them doing well and in the top half.

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