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    Post by Kroos Wed Sep 02, 2009 1:13 pm

    to end all rumours:

    rummenigge:


    there is no ribery deal or anything else fixed with real

    the robben-money is from the "festgeldkonto" and not from a credit (i never believed that btw)
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    Post by DD Wed Sep 02, 2009 1:15 pm

    Özil wrote:to end all rumours:

    rummenigge:


    there is no ribery deal or anything else fixed with real


    the robben-money is from the "festgeldkonto" and not from a credit (i never believed that btw)

    Quote?
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    Post by Kroos Wed Sep 02, 2009 1:18 pm

    http://www.sport1.de/de/fussball/fussball_bundesliga/artikel_147124.html
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    Post by blutgraetsche Wed Sep 02, 2009 3:13 pm

    AS and Marca will keep the Ribery story going though, no matter what. For them, Real Madrid not being able to sign a player is like an affront. For the sake of football, I wish more clubs were so stubborn (and financially independent) like Bayern so they could just say 'no'. Most will prefer the money though.

    Like I wrote earlier, I really admire this almost anachronistic stubbornness. Hoeneß has a lot of faults, but he is a man of principles. And Bayern are a multimillion dollar enterprise run like a family business. I wonder what happens once the old guard (Hoeneß, Beckenbauer etc.) retires.
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    Post by Lesley Wed Sep 02, 2009 3:38 pm

    Stoke wollte Lell - doch der war nicht da

    Apparently Stoke wanted to sign Lell on the last day of the transfer period, but Bayern couldn't reach him anywhere. Laugh
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    Post by blutgraetsche Wed Sep 02, 2009 3:40 pm

    lol!

    You can't make this up. Sneaky bastard smelled the coffee, those Bayern wages are just too comforting...
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    Post by Kroos Wed Sep 02, 2009 3:41 pm

    i dont blame him lol!



    from first class into BILLIGFLUGREISE
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    Post by blutgraetsche Wed Sep 02, 2009 3:57 pm

    Stoke apparently offered £3m for Lell! lol!
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    Post by blutgraetsche Wed Sep 02, 2009 5:17 pm

    Nerlinger (new Bayern sporting director): "Ribery and Robben are just the beginning. We intend to sign more top stars in future."

    http://www.sportbild.de/sportbild/generated/article/fussball/2009/09/02/13698600000.html


    Say goodbye to the 'Festgeldkonto' if that really happens. Hopefully it will be to your (and the league's) benefit in the CL at least.
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    Post by blutgraetsche Wed Sep 02, 2009 5:48 pm

    Robben is still pissed off about his treatment in Madrid.

    http://www.sportbild.de/sportbild/generated/article/fussball/2009/09/02/13692500000.html

    "I had no real (honest) chance to play for Real. What happens there these days is just politics. The coach has no real say, the Real Madrid bosses tell him what the squad has to look like and who to pick. A number of promises they made me were broken. In Munich, I know that Van Gaal will pick me and I will play if I do perform (in training)."


    Robben earned €3.2m after tax in Madrid. In Munich, he'll earn €4m before tax (so less after tax), but with bonuses (e.g. for winning the league, CL qualification, number of matches played etc. etc.) this can increase to €6m (before tax).

    That's good money, but less than I had imagined. Ribery earns a bit more AFAIK and Bayern offer him considerably more if he extends his contract.
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    Post by Lesley Wed Sep 02, 2009 6:47 pm

    What amazes me most is that Luca Toni is said to earn € 10m (before tax, of course). I don't know if this is true, but if it is.....holy sh*t.
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    Post by blutgraetsche Wed Sep 02, 2009 6:50 pm

    It is true.

    They paid a relatively modest transfer fee for him, but his wages are astronomically high. Hence they want to get rid of him now, but it's no surprise that he doesn't want to leave...

    Klose's wages are very high, too.
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    Post by blutgraetsche Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:54 pm

    Article about Van Gaal's 4-3-3 system:

    http://www.spox.com/de/sport/fussball/bundesliga/0909/Artikel/bayern-muenchen-taktik-system-4-3-3-grundidee-raumaufteilung-staerken-schwaechen.html
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    Post by Lesley Tue Sep 08, 2009 7:43 am

    Luca Toni droht mit Abschied

    So schnell kann's gehen heutzutage.
    2007 waren es doch noch die "Super-Bayern" um Ribery und Klosatoni.
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    Post by blutgraetsche Wed Sep 09, 2009 5:22 am

    Sepp Maier hat eine Idee: Torwart-Tausch Rensing soll zu Schalke und Neuer nach München

    http://www.bild.de/BILD/sport/fussball/bundesliga/vereine/bayern/2009/09/09/sepp-maier/torwart-tausch-mit-schalke-manuel-neuer-und-michael-rensing.html


    Maier meint allerdings, dass Magath auf keine große Euro-Beute hoffen dürfte: „Von der Leistung her nehmen sie sich nicht viel und sind ungefähr gleich stark.“ Und somit gleich viel wert...

    lol! lol! lol!

    Ist gut Sepp, Zeit fürs Altersheim...
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    Post by Effenberg Wed Sep 09, 2009 1:12 pm

    I really like the rumour that Bayern will go for Akinfeev in winter. Apparently, ManU are also in for him. He's been my avorite for a long time. (Besides Adler who we won't get.)
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    Post by blutgraetsche Wed Sep 09, 2009 10:44 pm

    Just saw the England - Croatia highlights, and it looked like Pranjic had a truly awful match. Most of the goals conceded were down to his mistakes.

    Maybe not a good idea to start him as LB. Smile
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    Post by Kroos Sun Sep 13, 2009 5:36 pm

    http://www.sport1.de/de/fussball/fussball_bundesliga/artikel_151389.html

    ribery is talking about a new contract in munich, he feels very good and loved in munich

    i think robben told him some shit about real, so now its more likely that he stays
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    Post by TM Sun Sep 13, 2009 5:41 pm

    cheers

    Still sad about Robben Sad
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    Post by Effenberg Sun Sep 13, 2009 5:46 pm

    It does help that Hoeness and Rummenigge kept stressing throughout the summer that he's never tried to force his way out and that they really want him at the club.

    Now that Robben has been bought, he can also probably see that the club is ambitious and on the right way. IMO, we're only three players and a little luck away from being a serious CL contender.
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    Post by Kroos Sun Sep 13, 2009 5:51 pm

    three players is a little bit optimistic

    a new goalkeeper
    a new right fullback
    a new centre back
    a new attacking midfielder(özil)
    a new 6 (vanbommel is shit)

    and some luck

    with altintop and schweini you win nothing in europe, yeah atm against shit dortmund they can shine, but in europe, i have my doubts, have lost my trust in schweini since a long time

    maybe his new position will suit him more
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    Post by Fey Tue Sep 15, 2009 2:21 pm

    Saw the already famous hug yesterday! Two of the least erotic men on the planet trying to have a bit of a intimicy with eachother, but both also didnt really knew what to do!

    Great stuff that was. Biggrin

    Very good result though 1-5 in Dortmund aint easy and von Gaal silenced the critics for at least a week!
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    Post by Axeslammer Tue Sep 15, 2009 2:35 pm

    Özil wrote:

    a new 6 (vanbommel is shit)


    I don't really know about that : I don't really like Von Bommel and I don't rate him that much either....but without him you're significantly weaker than with him.

    He adds drive and organization to the team like few other players could (and none in your current selection can)...
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    Post by Axeslammer Tue Sep 15, 2009 2:36 pm

    Fey wrote:
    Very good result though 1-5 in Dortmund aint easy and von Gaal silenced the critics for at least a week!

    Best part was that Riesen-Idiot Klopp finally had to shut up cheers


    I really hate that fool, he's the Lehmann of managers Twisted Evil
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    Post by blutgraetsche Tue Sep 15, 2009 11:27 pm

    I told you that you have a real gem in Müller. About time that a player from your (excellent) youth comes good. He has the talent to become one of your best ever academy players. Hope he continues to do well under Van Gaal, who seems to be the first Bayern coach in ages who tends to give young players a real chance.
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    Post by Axeslammer Tue Sep 15, 2009 11:51 pm

    blutgraetsche wrote:Hope he continues to do well under Van Gaal, who seems to be the first Bayern coach in ages who tends to give young players a real chance.

    That's what Van Gaal is famous for.

    That's one of the reasons why I thought it hilarious that Polski and Kroos left just before Van Gaal came.

    ....and that's also another reason why I'm 100% sure Van Gaal had nothing to do with the Gomez transfer (and a lot of other transfers).


    Müller > Gomez

    Told you all so...and I put my money where my mouth is : had him in my CL FF team cheers
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    Post by blutgraetsche Wed Sep 16, 2009 12:05 am

    Kroos left Bayern much earlier than that, 6 months before Van Gaal got the job. Back then, Klinsmann's job was actually secure. Poldi's decision to leave Bayern was made early also.

    Müller has more 'raw talent' than Gomez. But it remains to be seen if he manages to realise all the potential he has, time will tell. They are different kinds of forwards though. Why don't you Dutchies ever get this? Monoculture = no success. You need variety in your squad.
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    Post by fcb Wed Sep 16, 2009 6:32 am

    30m is a lot to pay for variety when your coach is going to play a 4-3-3 only requiring 1 striker, and already has 3 others (Klose, Olic, Toni) at the club.

    I understand that part of it is with the benefit of hindsight - Muller's breakthrough has been unexpected, and Van Gaal's switch to 4-3-3 is also just recent, but Axe is basically questioning why someone was bought before the manager came in and decided his project.
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    Post by Sheffield gunner Mon Sep 21, 2009 7:12 pm

    Bayern Munich general manager Uli Hoeness expects his club to soon become "the richest in the world", but that does not mean coach Louis van Gaal can plan any major investments in the squad.

    Hoeness confirmed that Bavarian car manufacturer Audi is considering a 100million-euro investment in the club to secure a 10% stake in its holding company, FC Bayern AG.

    Furthermore, the club's main sponsor Telekom is set to extend its contract which expires next summer, making the club over 120million euros better off.

    But Hoeness plans to use that money to pay off debts related to the construction of the Allianz Arena to make the stadium the club's own property.

    Only when that is done and the income from ticket sales starts flowing into the club's accounts will funds be made available for squad strengthening.

    "To have our own stadium without debts would obviously be a dream," said Hoeness in the Suddeutsche Zeitung newspaper. "Then we would be the richest club in the world."

    Audi's interest in taking a stake in the club emerged last week and Hoeness admitted it is a deal which could well be realised.

    "We are thinking of ways of bringing FC Bayern financially into the Champions League," he explained.

    "It is a great signal when a world-renowned company (Audi) has declared itself open to such a partnership, particularly in a time of economical crisis."

    Bayern currently pay 30million euros a year in repayments for the stadium which they built together with city rivals 1860.

    They have already paid their neighbours a considerable sum to acquire their share of the ground and the second division side are now regarded as tenants and must pay Bayern an annual rent to continue playing in the arena.

    To completely own their own home would provide a solid foundation for the club to challenge the domination of Spanish and English clubs in Europe with all of gate receipts "then being invested in the team," according to Hoeness.

    http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8925_5574130,00.html
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    Post by Axeslammer Fri Sep 25, 2009 11:25 am

    http://www.vi.nl/Achtergronden/Vanaf-de-bank/170462/Van-Gaal-moet-in-Munchen-goochelen-met-spitsen.htm

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