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    FC Bayern 2011

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    Post by Antarion Wed Mar 10, 2010 11:47 am

    Maybe.

    Neither had a chance to build on a good squad though, I mean I will critisize vG, if he doesn't buy a good defender this summer. But you can't blame him for the defense he has to work with. And he had to use Alaba because there was no one left.
    I admit that the situation was similar to Klinsmanns against barca, where half of our defenders were injured too.

    I think the main difference is, that vG trusts his players whereas Klinsmann was a total ass for switching Rensing for Butt seconds before the game started and telling him wild stories instead of just be more truthful. I think most Bayern fans don't like his "linke Aktionen" like with the Kahn-Lehmann Situation in the N11.

    Most Bayern fans even hail vG because he uses players like Badstuber, Contento, Müller, alaba and back them up.
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    Post by Stiftung Haeschentest Wed Mar 10, 2010 1:28 pm

    Why was it "link" to bench Rensing? LvG did the same, (which proves Klinsmann was indeed right on this one). LvG however wasn't crucified by the press. And seriously, no-one of us can know what Klinsmann exactly told Rensing to explain his decision.

    And again, I'm not criticising LvG. I've pointed out numerous times that your defence lacks quality and isn't anywhere near as deep as it used to be in the past. I am simply tickled by how different comparable decisions and on-pitch performances are viewed.
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    Post by stinger Wed Mar 10, 2010 1:32 pm

    Bayern for most of the game looks like using 4-2-4 system, and I sometimes have a feeling that it's too many players attacking from 1st line - not only because there is only 2 CMs, but also because usually 2 or 3 players who are high on the pitch are trying to collect through balls, and there is lack of good spacing there, especially when Robben (and Ribery sometimes too) go inside. Why LVG did stop playing 4-3-3?
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    Post by Kroos Wed Mar 10, 2010 1:36 pm

    maybe next season we will play 4-3-3

    --schweini-bommel
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    but only if ribery stays and kroos comes back
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    Post by Antarion Wed Mar 10, 2010 1:37 pm

    If I remember correctly, it wasn't link to bench him, but he told him he well play the next buli game and stuff like that.

    As for the rest, vG was also the big press target before the Turin game and everyone asking if he will get fired if theyx continue to play bad.

    If you just talk about the Florence game: Well, it's the CL and you can easily lose away (see arsenal) I dont think the game was THAT bad to critisize him. There are differences between the vG games and Klinsmanns games. I think it's obv for most and thats why he don't get mugged.
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    Post by Stiftung Haeschentest Wed Mar 10, 2010 3:30 pm

    Your game has become more controlled, that's true.

    My point was though, that your performances in the CL are by no means better or more convincing than last season.

    (They can't due to the fundamental problems in your squad composition.)

    LvG still gets a more favourable response to his results by fans and press than Klinsmann used to get.

    Same problems/comparable results = different reaction

    Just my impression. Ale
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    Post by Stiftung Haeschentest Wed Mar 17, 2010 10:49 am

    Van Bommel extended his contract until 2011.

    http://www.sport1.de/de/fussball/fussball_bundesliga/newspage_214164.html
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    Post by Kroos Wed Mar 17, 2010 11:17 am

    thats good, and after that we should buy kedhira
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    Post by Axeslammer Wed Mar 17, 2010 12:34 pm

    This is this weeks photo for the caption contest on www.vi.nl (VI = Dutch Kicker) :

    FC Bayern 2011 - Page 13 4251d8f0-3d93-48df-a596-7c17f3d75352_Robben397

    Should lead to some funny texts Wink
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    Post by Stiftung Haeschentest Wed Mar 17, 2010 1:08 pm

    Can someone tell me where I can find these Sat 1 ran funny dubbing episodes online?

    I am looking for the one with Robben and Ovrebo but can't find it... Sad
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    Post by Antarion Wed Mar 17, 2010 1:10 pm

    You mean where he tried to talk to him and Ovi had to ask several times "what" while coming closer? Very Happy

    Don't know maybe i will search for it this evening when iam at home
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    Post by Stiftung Haeschentest Wed Mar 17, 2010 1:13 pm

    Yep exactly. Laugh

    This one cracked me up so I wanted it to show a friend.

    ---

    Das ist ja gerade noch mal gut gegangen. "Ich hatte fünf Gesichtsbrüche und habe genauso viele Platten eingesetzt bekommen. Ich hätte fast mein rechtes Auge verloren", sagte Martin Demichelis in der argentinischen Zeitung "Tinta Deportivo". Beim Länderspiel gegen Deutschland war der Argentinier mit Michael Ballack zusammengerasselt. In drei Wochen hofft er wieder spielen zu können.

    http://www.spox.com/de/sport/fussball/rundumdenball/1003/tages-ticker-1703-fc-bayern-muenchen-anatolij-timoschtschuk-freigabe-jose-mourinho-inter-mailand-fc-chelsea-michael-ballack-manuel-neuer-schalke-04.html

    Ouch! Shocked

    Get well soon, Micho! Hug
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    Post by Effenberg Wed Mar 17, 2010 5:07 pm

    Apparently Ballack hasn't even contacted Demichelis to apologize. That's really weak.
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    Post by Effenberg Wed Mar 17, 2010 5:58 pm

    Neuer has apparently agreed to join Bayern. Most likely after next season.

    http://www.tz-online.de/sport/fussball/fc-bayern/neuer-bayern-hoeness-zusage-tz-neu-677277.html
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    Post by Stiftung Haeschentest Thu Mar 18, 2010 11:18 am

    That's really weak of Ballack. Sure, it wasn't intentional but he should have send him some get-well wishes. Rolling Eyes

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    I finally found the Ovrebo-Robben vid.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPKuLSMmvpo

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    Post by Kroos Fri Mar 19, 2010 9:17 pm

    lol auf dem linken Auge hör ich schlecht hilarious
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    Post by Antarion Sat Mar 20, 2010 11:20 am

    http://www.spiegel.de/sport/fussball/0,1518,684613,00.html

    Die humoristischen Qualitäten von Nationalspieler Philipp Lahm sind
    bisher unterschätzt worden. An diesem Freitag landete der Verteidiger
    des FC Bayern jedenfalls den Gag des Tages. Treuherziger Miene und
    offenbar allen Ernstes in der Stimme kommentierte er das Viertelfinallos
    seines Clubs: "Manchester United darf man auf keinen Fall
    unterschätzen."


    lol!


    Yo guys and girls, there are only two possibilities:

    Either Lahm has become the new super LEADER and sees every opponent as inferior to Bayern
    or
    Having no opinion besides the same phrases he uses after every draw and got confused with his two sentences he normally has to say.
    Smile
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    Post by SuperMario Sat Mar 20, 2010 11:52 am

    lol!

    probably the last option.
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    Post by Kroos Mon Mar 22, 2010 8:38 pm

    anybody knows when demichelis is fit to play?

    i heard next weekend, other sources say in the middle of april

    hes already in team training with a mask

    would be important for the manu game, we dont have a facking leftback when badstuber is playing in the centre
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    Post by Kroos Tue Mar 23, 2010 12:55 pm

    2009-10 Transfer Report Card: How Good Were Bayern Munich’s Signings?
    With the season nearing its end, Goal.com’s Clark Whitney assesses how die Roten’s new signings fared in their first season, and whether the club got it right or wrong in the transfer market…
    By Clark Whitney
    Mar 23, 2010 11:00:00 AM
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    Edson Braafheid
    Last April saw the end of the “Klinsmann experiment” at Bayern, as former superstar Juergen Klinsmann was sacked. By mid-summer, the former Germany striker’s signings (Tim Borowski, Massimo Oddo and Landon Donovan) were offloaded, and manager Uli Hoeness tried to put together a team capable of winning the Champions League.

    IN: Braafheid (Twente), Robben (Real Madrid), Olic (Hamburg), Baumjohann (Borussia M’gladbach), Pranjic (Heerenveen), Gomez (Stuttgart), Tymoshchuk (Zenit St. Petersburg)

    OUT: Lucio (Inter Milan), Podolski (Koeln), Ze Roberto (Hamburg), Donovan (loan return), Oddo (Milan, loan return), Borowski (Werder Bremen), Hummels (Dortmund), Sosa (Estudiantes, loan), Breno (Nuernberg, loan), Ottl (Nuernberg, loan), Braafheid (Celtic, loan)

    Arjen Robben: A

    Make no mistake: without Robben, Bayern would be out of the Champions League, and either second or third in the Bundesliga. His signing was a risky, knee-jerk reaction following Bayern’s poor performance in August, but has proven to be well worth the €25m transfer fee. Supremely gifted both as a technical footballer and as an athlete, Robben is one of the few individuals in world football who can turn around a game all on his own. He has done so numerous times in recent weeks, and is arguably in the form of his life. The flying Dutchman only misses out on an A+ because he missed time in the fall campaign with injury. If he manages to stay fit, Robben could be named German Footballer of the Year.




    Ivica Olic: B+

    A fan favourite since his arrival at the Allianz Arena, Olic has scored nine goals to date, but his role in the team is currently up for question. Despite his breakneck pace and superhuman work rate, Olic lacks the technical qualities of many of his team-mates, a deficiency that has seen him slip from a first-team regular to Van Gaal’s fourth choice striker behind Gomez, Klose and Thomas Mueller. Given his great attitude and the fact that he came to Munich on a free transfer, Olic remains a good signing. He does not seem to mind coming off the bench, always gives 110 per cent, and offers the kind of gritty quality required to beat teams like Koeln, Freiburg and Nuernberg. Just don’t expect him to score against the likes of Inter or Manchester United.

    Mario Gomez: B

    Many of you are probably wondering why a D isn’t next to his name, but to be fair, Gomez managed a team-high 14 goals in all competitions before his recent injury. Contrary to popular belief, Bayern needed to sign a quality striker last summer: Miro Klose and Luca Toni were well past their respective peaks, and despite his impressive work rate, Ivica Olic was never going to be a 25-goal-a-year striker. All things considered, Gomez may have been the best striker transfer Bayern could have made in the summer. Let’s consider the other high-profile striker transfers in Europe, namely Karim Benzema, Samuel Eto’o, and Zlatan Ibrahimovic. Only the latter has managed more goals than Gomez, and just barely (15 to 14). Sure, Gomez was overpriced (estimates of his price range from €30-34m), but I’d prefer him over the flops that characterised the Klinsmann era.

    HUMILIATING
    Danijel Pranjic: C-

    Because he paid an estimated €700k of his own transfer fee from Heerenveen, you have to have sympathy for the Croatia international, who has no place in the Bayern starting XI. After a spell playing in the left back position, Pranjic was found to be lacking defensively, and 20-year old Holger Badstuber displaced him once Martin Demichelis returned from injury. When Arjen Robben was injured, Pranjic had a better spell on the left side of midfield, but it was later found that Thomas Mueller was more effective in that role with Olic added to the line-up as a striker. Now, even 17-year old David Alaba and 19-year old Diego Contento are preferred over Pranjic as starting left backs. Pranjic earns a C- because he has at least managed to secure a back-up defensive midfield role ahead of Anatoliy Tymoshchuk.

    Edson Braafheid: E

    All the talk of bringing in Jose Bosingwa or Darijo Srna to solve Bayern’s full-back dilemma was scrapped last summer when Edson Braafheid joined Bayern from Twente for €2.5m. While coach Louis van Gaal had faith in the left back’s potential, concerns over his unwillingness to move forward, lack of pace, and questionable right foot forced Van Gaal to remove the Dutch defender from his starting XI. As the fall campaign wore on, fans began to protest Braafheid’s association with the club, some considering him Bayern’s worst defender since Christian Lell. In January, Braafheid was loaned to Celtic, with fans’ pressure the cited reason for the transfer.

    Anatoliy Tymoshchuk: E

    Signed to replace Ze Roberto in central midfield, Tymoshchuk’s role was eliminated when Bastian Schweinsteiger moved to central midfield. With skipper Mark van Bommel his main competition, the Ukrainian midfield anchor has had to settle for a substitute’s role. The €15m signing of Tymoshchuk in February 2009 was the direct result of Bayern’s Klinsmann-era identity crisis, but Uli Hoeness should have known better than to start building his team when a summer coaching change was likely. A much more appropriate—and financially responsible—option would have been to offer Ze Roberto a two-year contract extension.

    Alexander Baumjohann: E

    Call him Jan Schlaudraff, round 2. Last spring, Bayern needed a creative attacker, and secured Baumjohann on a free transfer. The 23-year old was a cheap buy, but was quickly found to be surplus to requirements after the signing of Robben. Unlike Schlaudraff before him, Baumjohann got lucky when he was sent to Schalke on loan in January. He still has yet to secure a starting role in Felix Magath’s side, but has a much better chance of doing so in Gelsenkirchen than he did in Bavaria. He can’t be blamed for trying to make it in Munich, but like Pranjic, he really has no place in the Bayern starting XI. While Baumjohann himself earns an E, the Bayern management share the blame for wasting his time.

    FINAL GRADE: C

    There are many elements to consider, some obviously positive and others distinctly negative. To begin with, Robben’s transfer was a risk, but one that has paid tremendous dividends. For €25m, Bayern have signed the Bundesliga’s best player, and arguably one of the top 10 in world football. In addition to his on-field contributions, Robben will attract more stars to Bayern and the Bundesliga, and his presence just might help extend Franck Ribery’s stay in Munich.

    Moving on to less clear-cut positives, the Gomez transfer was by no means a bargain, but addressed real needs in the squad. It was a good idea to sign a striker of his quality, but the price might have been a bit too high. Olic also added depth on the cheap, and cannot be underestimated.

    However, the transfers of Pranjic and Baumjohann were completely unnecessary at the time of their signings, and moves for Tymoshchuk and Braafheid have been found useless with the rise of youngsters Badstuber and Mueller, and the move of Schweinsteiger to central midfield. While the Braafheid and Baumjohann transfers can hardly be criticised due to price, the signing of Tymoshchuk was a dreadful piece of business, and either Eljero Elia or Michel Bastos would have been better signings than Pranjic.

    Where Bayern really lose credit is in the transfers of Ze Roberto, Lucio and Mats Hummels. Despite his age, Ze Roberto would have been a useful and versatile substitute for at least this year, and offering a two-year contract extension would have been much more financially viable than paying Tymoshchuk’s transfer fee.

    Lucio remains captain of Brazil and is one of the main reasons Inter have advanced to the Champions League quarter-finals: if there was a central defender to offload, it should have been Martin Demichelis or Daniel van Buyten.

    A product of the Bayern youth academy, Hummels was also a defender worth keeping. His consistent play alongside Neven Subotic has turned Dortmund’s back line into one of the league’s more formidable defences.

    In conclusion, there is no doubt that this year’s Bayern is much better than the last, but only thanks to some amount of luck. The emergence of Mueller and Badstuber, as well as the resurgence of Schweinsteiger, Van Buyten and Hans-Joerg Butt have saved Uli Hoeness from criticism for failing to solve the greatest problems that plagued Bayern at the end of last season: the positions of full-back and goalkeeper.
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    Post by Kroos Tue Apr 06, 2010 11:57 am

    Kedhira to expensive for VFB, he only has contract until 2011, vanbommel too

    http://www.stuttgarter-nachrichten.de/news/sport.html/id/1953e8e5-c3dd-443a-b6f7-a271438993f6
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    Post by Axeslammer Tue Apr 06, 2010 12:28 pm

    Özil wrote:

    Mario Gomez: B

    Many of you are probably wondering why a D isn’t next to his name, but....but I’d prefer him over the flops that characterised the Klinsmann era.

    So he's still a miss and a flop, yet the reporter chooses to reward him with a B Doh

    Gomez = crap as a striker.

    He's wasted an incredible amount of chances and fucks up play by being offside and/or being too slow.

    That's his main problem btw : he's too slow to be a striker in the modern era.

    I've said it before and I'll say it again : make him a midfielder who holds up and distributes play and he'll do fine.

    Özil wrote:
    Danijel Pranjic: C-

    After a spell playing in the left back position....Pranjic had a better spell on the left side of midfield.....Now, even 17-year old David Alaba and 19-year old Diego Contento are preferred over Pranjic as starting left backs.

    Not surprising since Pranjic alternated between LM and left WINGER at Heerenveen.

    Players like him can only play at LB in a Dutch system, where they hardly have any defensive responsibilities : the two centerbacks and a footballing goalie have to know their business to unload such a LB.

    Bayern has no good CB and the goalies can't keep, let alone add anything else to play.

    Pranjic is still an ace player, yet Bayern isn't ready for him....yet.

    Wouldn't surprise me if Van Gaal would create a team in which there will be room for him to shine....that is if the board don't continue with their ridiculous buys from their own agenda.
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    Post by Kroos Tue Apr 06, 2010 1:29 pm

    thats simply not true that he is slow

    and he has a decent season for bayern, when you consider it is his first season at a big club, and robbery want to shine on his own

    he also created with his assists or pre assists a lot of very important goals for bayern (for example against florenz and manu)

    its true what you talking, he has the talent to create and bring his teammates in good position (i think thats what the engerlanders call the rooney game Wink)
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    Post by chrissicross Wed Apr 07, 2010 9:46 pm

    Haha, hinten sind die Enten fett. Very Happy

    Congratulations, Bavarians!! cheers
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    Post by Axeslammer Thu Apr 08, 2010 1:26 am

    Never thought there'd be a day when I wanted Bayern to win....well this season the unthinkable has happened Ale

    The entertainment and excitement ! Shocked

    I imagine that if your a real Bayern fan and have a heart problem, you're not amongst us any more...

    Congrats on the incredible performance Ale

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    Post by Puro Thu Apr 08, 2010 2:11 am

    Axeslammer wrote:Never thought there'd be a day when I wanted Bayern to win....well this season the unthinkable has happened Ale

    The entertainment and excitement ! Shocked

    I imagine that if your a real Bayern fan and have a heart problem, you're not amongst us any more...

    Congrats on the incredible performance Ale


    My fucking gosh! Shocked

    All this time you licking English balls and deep down you want them to fail when it matters the most. Hypocrite Fat Boy c**t! At least it's what you see is what you get from me ain't that right Fat Boy! Biggrin

    Don't worry Fat Boy, I can think of at least ONE MORE hypocrite who praises the English FOOLING everyone else here, BUT I KNOW his true colors. TRUE FUCKING STORY MES AMIS! <Ale>
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    Post by Kroos Tue Apr 13, 2010 5:11 am

    http://www.bild.de/BILD/sport/fussball/bundesliga/vereine/bayern/2010/04/13/toni-kroos/trifft-zum-1-mal-louis-van-gaal-exklusiv-fotos.html

    Kroos was in munich to talk with van gaal about his future in the possible starting formation next season

    the only option is a 4-3-3 or 4-5-1 or a 4-4 -2 if ribery leaves the club

    ------butt
    lahm-buyten-demichelis-badstuber
    ---schweinsteiger-vanbommel
    -------kroos
    robben-gomez-ribery/müller (if ribery stays)

    or when ribery leaves the club

    schweinsteiger-vanbommel
    robben---------kroos
    -----olic-müller

    he gives us plenty of options in midfield

    i would prefer the 2nd formation, i just dont get warm with just one striker, bayern was always 2 strikers

    hope ribery leaves Wink

    would be better for müller and kroos, and most time hes injured anyway Exclamation
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    Post by Stiftung Haeschentest Tue Apr 13, 2010 8:00 am

    Rummenigge's recent statements indicate that you are in for a quite transfer window, unless Ribéry leaves.

    Though, Nerlinger said you are looking out for a left-back.

    Any ideas, wishes, suggestions?
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    Post by Stiftung Haeschentest Tue Apr 13, 2010 8:01 am

    Don't know think you are becoming too reliant on Robben if Ribéry were to leave Bayern?

    Would be a bit like 2008/09 reloaded, IMO.
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    Post by Antarion Tue Apr 13, 2010 8:16 am

    Stiftung Haeschentest wrote:Don't know think you are becoming too reliant on Robben if Ribéry were to leave Bayern?

    Would be a bit like 2008/09 reloaded, IMO.

    Yes, obv the best would be to have LKroos and Ribery because they have a different style and if you could switch between controlling and still have the option to play "furious wing attacks" with ribrob it would be perfect. But leaving either of Kroos or Ribery on the bench for half the games is undoable.

    Lets see how vG will manage this. Unless Ribery leaves then its clear anyway. But we need a new keeper and a left back for sure

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