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Used to be a RB but plays as a winger for Donezk. According to his agent he has offers from Bayern and Sevilla.
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Effenberg- Number of posts : 3975
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Calidad- Number of posts : 7996
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Ilsinho is a pretty decent player. RB/RM, could probably even play central.
Stiftung Haeschentest- Number of posts : 2314
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Rumours have it that Lucio is on his way out. It is said that van Gaal doubts Lucio's aptitude for his tactical concept and that Braafheid instead is supposed to partner Demichelis in the central defence. (Isn't Braafheid a tiny wee bit too small for the CD?)
http://www.bild.de/BILD/sport/fussball/bundesliga/vereine/bayern/2009/06/21/lucio/steht-wie-tim-borowski-bei-louis-van-gaal-auf-der-kippe.html
First reaction from Lucio:
"I have one year left on my contract and if the new coach doesn't need me, I'll go somewhere else. […] Of course I want to stay. But if the coach thinks other players are better than me, I will not play another minute for Bayern."
http://www.tz-online.de/sport/fussball/fc-bayern/lucio-fcbayern-tz-367149.html
OUCH!!!
http://www.bild.de/BILD/sport/fussball/bundesliga/vereine/bayern/2009/06/21/lucio/steht-wie-tim-borowski-bei-louis-van-gaal-auf-der-kippe.html
First reaction from Lucio:
"I have one year left on my contract and if the new coach doesn't need me, I'll go somewhere else. […] Of course I want to stay. But if the coach thinks other players are better than me, I will not play another minute for Bayern."
http://www.tz-online.de/sport/fussball/fc-bayern/lucio-fcbayern-tz-367149.html
OUCH!!!
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i dont care if he leaves, hes not a defence leader at all, we need someone like terry, he must be present in all areas, not only in the box from the enemy and some shitty angry outburts
our central defence lacks internationl standard since years
our central defence lacks internationl standard since years
Stiftung Haeschentest- Number of posts : 2314
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I see where van Gaal is coming from; Lucio is too often tactically undisciplined but on the other hand he's experienced and also one of the few players on your team with a never say die mentality. It's doubtful too if an unproven player like Braafheid is capable to replace your best central defender of recent years.
Effenberg- Number of posts : 3975
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No way will Braafheid replace Lucio. That has to be a joke.
In other news, the Pranjic deal is done. Contract until 2012.
In other news, the Pranjic deal is done. Contract until 2012.
Axeslammer- Number of posts : 19690
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Effenberg wrote:No way will Braafheid replace Lucio. That has to be a joke.
Not in Van Gaal territory
Never a dull moment with him in charge
(he might succeed, you never know : he also transformed Reiziger from a mediocre midfielder to a CL winning fullback....)
DS- Number of posts : 12952
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Probably, but I expect a CB signing if Lucio goes or Breno giving the confidence.
Stiftung Haeschentest- Number of posts : 2314
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Pranjic paid 700.000 € to leave Heerenveen.
The two clubs couldn't agree on the price for Pranjic so he paid the difference himself.
http://www.tz-online.de/sport/fussball/fc-bayern/euro-kaufte-sich-pranjic-frei-368310.html
The two clubs couldn't agree on the price for Pranjic so he paid the difference himself.
http://www.tz-online.de/sport/fussball/fc-bayern/euro-kaufte-sich-pranjic-frei-368310.html
[...] Dann platzte Pranjic der Kragen. „Ich konnte nicht mehr warten. Als sich die Verhandlungen angenähert hatten, habe ich mich entschieden und den Bayern vorgeschlagen die Differenz zu bezahlen. Die Bayern haben das akzeptiert, dann haben wir Heerenveen Montag Vormittag alles vorgelegt, sie haben es gleich angenommen.“ Nun bekommt Pranjic während seines Drei-Jahres-Vertrags jährlich 233 000 Euro von seinem Gehalt abgezogen, die direkt an seinen Ex-Klub überwiesen werden. Damit ist der Transfer-Hick-Hack endlich beendet.
„Es ist Wahnsinn, dass Heerenveen so lange darauf bestanden hat. Die haben sich nicht einmal mehr gemeldet, als alles unterschrieben war. Das habe ich erst eine Stunde später von meinem Berater erfahren“, sagt Pranjic. „Es tut mir nicht leid um das Geld. Ich will bei einem großen Klub spielen und endlich das Feeling in der Allianz Arena spüren“, freut sich Pranjic schon auf München.
Nach Holland will er nie mehr zurück. Pranjic: „Noch ein Jahr in Heerenveen und ich würde verrückt werden.Es tut mir leid, dass ich nun im Schlechten aus Holland weggehe, denn die Fans haben mich geliebt. Schade das es so endet.“ Doch jedes Ende ist eben auch ein neuer Anfang.
Effenberg- Number of posts : 3975
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So, Bayern offered 6m and Heerenveen wanted 7.5m plus another 200k I don't know what for. Then Bayern went up to 7m, but Heerenveen still wouldn't move. Pranjic was sick of it and will now pay the remaining 700k.
I like him already. He seem to REALLY want to play for us. With the wages he'll be able to deal with losing 233,000 a year.
I like him already. He seem to REALLY want to play for us. With the wages he'll be able to deal with losing 233,000 a year.
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Does this end your interest in Bosingwa? Liverpool confirmed the Glenn Johnson deal (means Chelsea won't get him) on the same day so I wonder if it's just a coincidence.
DS- Number of posts : 12952
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Maybe they are looking at Maicon ?
SuperMario- Number of posts : 16866
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Pranjic is a very good signing Effe. 7M still is a bargian. Amazed you didn't have to compete with other big clubs to sign him. He indeed has the right attitude & is a very mature, versatile player, who is seriously gifted. I'm sure you're goin to like him even more.
Effenberg- Number of posts : 3975
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Cheers, De Guzman.
Effenberg- Number of posts : 3975
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Man, Lucio is an idiot. He keeps saying how he's shocked that he's not wanted at Bayern anymore. All that was, was a rumour that has been denied by the bosses in every single interview since.
Get over it, you Jesus freak!
Get over it, you Jesus freak!
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Maybe he's just going to use that as an excuse if he does move on.
I would love to have him at Real
But him and Pepe may be too similar to play alongside each other!!
I would love to have him at Real
But him and Pepe may be too similar to play alongside each other!!
Axeslammer- Number of posts : 19690
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Read a nice article the other day : in the history of Bayern there have only been two people who have been player, manager and chairman of the club.
Der Kaiser is obviously one of them....and the other is a Dutchie
Willem Hesselink, Van Gaal's predecessor
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willem_Hesselink
http://www.sportgeschiedenis.nl/2009/06/04/willem-hesselink-was-de-voorganger-van-louis-van-gaal.aspx
Der Kaiser is obviously one of them....and the other is a Dutchie
Willem Hesselink, Van Gaal's predecessor
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willem_Hesselink
http://www.sportgeschiedenis.nl/2009/06/04/willem-hesselink-was-de-voorganger-van-louis-van-gaal.aspx
Stiftung Haeschentest- Number of posts : 2314
Age : 40
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Registration date : 2006-08-30
Oooooh, someone is seriously pissed...
http://www.tz-online.de/sport/fussball/fc-bayern/lucio-ich-muesste-noch-meinen-spind-ausraeumen-tz-375317.html
Lucio feels no longer needed at Bayern. No member of the Bayern board immediately denied rumours that van Gaal prefers Braafheid over him, so there must be something to this story he says.
TZ: But KH Rummenigge said there's nothing to those stories and no one wants to get rid of you. Doesn't that make you feel better?
Lucio: Yes, it's nice but it comes a bit too late. Now a lot of clubs would be happy to have Lucio because I won the Confed Cup and played well. Bayern should have backed me earlier.
TZ: Will you report back to training after your holiday?
Lucio: Maybe it won't happen.
TZ: Never Säbener Straße again?
Lucio: I wouldn't say never. After all I would have to clear out my locker.
TZ: And what if van Gaal is still planning with you?
Lucio: No idea. Bayern and those rumours created a situation that is anything but nice. That's why a move is sensible, if there were any good offers.
TZ: Did you pray for something special lately?
Lucio: I prayed for justice in these difficult times for me.
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Well, Lucio is known for being a bit of a drama queen but this interview is taking the biscuit (assuming that TZ isn't misquoting him).
I blame the constant vuvuzela noise in SA. This must have hurt his brain.
http://www.tz-online.de/sport/fussball/fc-bayern/lucio-ich-muesste-noch-meinen-spind-ausraeumen-tz-375317.html
Lucio feels no longer needed at Bayern. No member of the Bayern board immediately denied rumours that van Gaal prefers Braafheid over him, so there must be something to this story he says.
TZ: But KH Rummenigge said there's nothing to those stories and no one wants to get rid of you. Doesn't that make you feel better?
Lucio: Yes, it's nice but it comes a bit too late. Now a lot of clubs would be happy to have Lucio because I won the Confed Cup and played well. Bayern should have backed me earlier.
TZ: Will you report back to training after your holiday?
Lucio: Maybe it won't happen.
TZ: Never Säbener Straße again?
Lucio: I wouldn't say never. After all I would have to clear out my locker.
TZ: And what if van Gaal is still planning with you?
Lucio: No idea. Bayern and those rumours created a situation that is anything but nice. That's why a move is sensible, if there were any good offers.
TZ: Did you pray for something special lately?
Lucio: I prayed for justice in these difficult times for me.
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Well, Lucio is known for being a bit of a drama queen but this interview is taking the biscuit (assuming that TZ isn't misquoting him).
I blame the constant vuvuzela noise in SA. This must have hurt his brain.
Effenberg- Number of posts : 3975
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Damn Jesus freaks.
SuperMario- Number of posts : 16866
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35 minutes to go before van Gaal's 1st press conference auf Deutsch.
I'm ready. Nice huge cold beer, some pretzels... Bring it on!
I'm ready. Nice huge cold beer, some pretzels... Bring it on!
SuperMario- Number of posts : 16866
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Anyone got a stream for this / know a good site for German streams, bitte?
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http://www.n24.de/?pl=live
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he speaks better them most of the players
SuperMario- Number of posts : 16866
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Ich habe schon eine Bratwurst von Uli gegessen
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Haha, this guy is awesome. 
Frage: Wo wird Gomez spielen?
van Gaal: Wahrscheinlich im Stürmerbereich!
Fans will love this as well:
Van Gaal: "Die Kultur von Bayern München passt zu mir. Das bayerische Lebensgefühl passt mir wie ein warmer Mantel. Mir san mir. Und ich bin ich. Selbstbewusst, arrogant, dominant, ehrlich, arbeitsam, innovativ, aber auch warm und familiär. Ich erkenne meine Persönlichkeit in diesen Begriffen. Deshalb glaube ich, dass ich hier her passe."
Other than that, he sounds very much like Klinsmann.
"Holistic approach", "It will take at least two years to play like Barcelona" etc. pp.
Frage: Wo wird Gomez spielen?
van Gaal: Wahrscheinlich im Stürmerbereich!
Fans will love this as well:
Van Gaal: "Die Kultur von Bayern München passt zu mir. Das bayerische Lebensgefühl passt mir wie ein warmer Mantel.
Mir san mir. Und ich bin ich. Selbstbewusst, arrogant, dominant, ehrlich, arbeitsam, innovativ, aber auch warm und familiär. Ich erkenne meine Persönlichkeit in diesen Begriffen. Deshalb glaube ich, dass ich hier her passe." Other than that, he sounds very much like Klinsmann.
"Holistic approach", "It will take at least two years to play like Barcelona" etc. pp.
Effenberg- Number of posts : 3975
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Van Gaal.
blutgraetsche- Number of posts : 23328
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'Mir san mir' passt tatsächlich wie die Brezel zum Gouda.
SuperMario- Number of posts : 16866
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what's 'Mir san mir' genau?
Axeslammer- Number of posts : 19690
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De Guzman wrote:what's 'Mir san mir' genau?
Hah, I've been wondering that for ages too (too stubborn to ask though).
blutgraetsche- Number of posts : 23328
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"Mir san mir" or "mia san mia", in German "wir sind wir" (literally: "us is us") means that we are Bavarians, we want everything to remain as it is, we don't care about you 'outsiders'. It's the Bavarian way of life, a mixture of (over-) self confidence and isolationism, with a strong emphasis on Bavarian language, customs, traditions and ' uniqueness'.
Franz Josef Strauß was the incarnation of "mir san mir", for example. And Hoeneß, being Swabian and therefore an 'outsider' actually, the prime example of adopting "mir san mir".
Franz Josef Strauß was the incarnation of "mir san mir", for example. And Hoeneß, being Swabian and therefore an 'outsider' actually, the prime example of adopting "mir san mir".
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