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    Post by Ä Tue Apr 13, 2010 8:52 am

    van gaal has said he sees Kroos as a number 10

    NOT on the wing

    in other words

    ONE striker it is

    and surely, that will be Olic with Gomez coming on as a sub

    the biggest loser would be MÜLLER

    Ribery , hopefully, leaves anyway

    what a waste of space

    ALL problems up front would be solved

    the one-striker system also means that KLOSE will 100% leave Bayern at the end of the season

    WHERE do you see him go ?

    he does not seem highly rated abroad

    so what about replacing Cacau at Stuttgart ?
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    Post by Antarion Tue Apr 13, 2010 9:27 am

    I know that Kroos will be no10 thats why i said having both Ribery AND Kroos could add diversity in our play style.

    Gomez on the bench would be terrible imo. As much as i like Olic, that shouldn't happen.

    I think Kroos could replace müller and everything else stays the same or Kroos comes in for Olic. But really, Müller should play too. Selling Ribery wouldn't be the worst thing but you never know how Kroos will perform for us...

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    Post by Stiftung Haeschentest Tue Apr 13, 2010 9:48 am

    You are competing in three competitions, so Müller and Kroos should get enough playing-time even if Ribéry were to stay.

    On the GK issue: I think I read that when Butt signed his new one-year contract he was promised that no new no. 1 will be bought after the season. So I think it's very likely that he will be your Stamm-goalie also next season.
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    Post by Ä Tue Apr 13, 2010 10:07 am

    Olic is ON FIRE

    and van Gaal HATES Gomez
    at least, he is NOT keen on him AT ALL

    the TRUTH is

    van Gaal has been a nightmare for the Mannschaft

    when you think of Gomez and Klose

    unfortunately, van Gaal is also in love with Müller

    I don't see how he wants to solve the Müller vs Kroos one

    Kroos is certainly NOT a bit-part player who awaits his turn because Bayern "have enough games"

    he is BEYOND that stage IMHO

    the truth is, van Gaal does not like Ribery, and for once, he is RIGHT

    the problem is, that SHOULD Bayern reach the CL FINAL

    Ribery will notice that he does not have to go to Real or Barca or Chelsea or win the big one

    ie

    he will probably stay

    still

    my main worry is about Gomez, who will continue to be a sub next season

    and KLOSE

    so again

    WHERE do you see him next season ?
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    Post by Stiftung Haeschentest Tue Apr 13, 2010 10:11 am

    Stuttgart,
    Hoffenheim

    or

    Wolfsburg (if Dzeko leaves)
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    Post by chrissicross Tue Apr 13, 2010 10:34 am

    Aus dem Werder Forum...

    -=RK=- wrote:Laut Tobias Holtkamp von der BILD hat Werder sich nach Klose erkundigt. Bayern würde ihn demnach für eine kleine Ablöse gehen lassen.

    -> :pop: <-
    Holtkamp stammt aus Bremen und ist Sportchef von bild.de. Ich sag mal nichts weiter dazu.
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    Post by Stiftung Haeschentest Tue Apr 13, 2010 10:37 am

    lol! lol! lol!

    poor chrissi Hug

    Returning to Bremen would be ideal for him and the Mannschaft though. But will the fans forgive him?
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    Post by chrissicross Tue Apr 13, 2010 10:42 am

    Der traut sich sowieso nicht mehr zurück nach Bremen. Wink
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    Post by Ä Tue Apr 13, 2010 12:16 pm

    according to Stuttgart based sources

    Klose, Poldi and Kuranyi are NO OPTIONS at VfB

    they are either too expensive or do not fit the profile

    IF Wolfsburg sell Dzeko, Klose could head there

    IF NOT

    well

    I guess only Werder is an alternative

    Hoffe are not even in the Europa League and do NOT pay that well

    HSV have Ruud and Petric

    Bayer have Kiessling, Helmes and the Swiss hotshot

    Dortmund cannot afford Klose

    I doubt Schalke could either

    even if they qualify for the CL

    still

    Klose at Schalke would be SUPER
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    Post by Ricardo Jol Tue Apr 13, 2010 12:23 pm

    Why not Klose to Barcelona....? Whistle
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    Post by Axeslammer Tue Apr 13, 2010 12:51 pm

    Ä wrote:

    the biggest loser would be MÜLLER


    Müller is a typical Van Gaal player : Van Gaal will *find* a way to play him ok
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    Post by chrissicross Mon Apr 19, 2010 12:39 pm

    chrissicross wrote:Aus dem Werder Forum...

    -=RK=- wrote:Laut Tobias Holtkamp von der BILD hat Werder sich nach Klose erkundigt. Bayern würde ihn demnach für eine kleine Ablöse gehen lassen.

    -> :pop: <-
    Holtkamp stammt aus Bremen und ist Sportchef von bild.de. Ich sag mal nichts weiter dazu.
    Neues von Tobias Holtkamp bzgl. U:

    Thema hinter den Kulissen. Lautern-Rückkehr hat sich zerschlagen. Klose wird Bayern im Sommer verlassen

    http://twitter.com/Rune4/status/12449065037
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    Post by Kroos Fri Apr 23, 2010 4:22 pm

    http://www.sport1.de/de/fussball/fussball_bundesliga/artikel_228392.html


    vangaal on tymoschuk

    "hes the best defensive midfielder we have, but bayern dont need him, because we want more creative player in that position"

    wow hes really an honest coach, i bet he said that tymo into his face

    hes the opposite of klinsmann


    he also said for bayern is barca the standard, they want the same positional play and pace in there game

    he never worked with with a team before with such an solidarity
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    Post by Axeslammer Sat Apr 24, 2010 11:29 pm

    Von Bommel proving to be a good captain : he advises Van Gaal to go and fetch Gomes from Spurs ok

    http://www.vi.nl/Nieuws-item/179443/Van-Bommel-beveelt-Gomes-aan-bij-Van-Gaal.htm
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    Post by Deluded F*ck™ Sat Apr 24, 2010 11:36 pm

    Axeslammer wrote:Von Bommel proving to be a good captain : he advises Van Gaal to go and fetch Gomes from Spurs ok

    http://www.vi.nl/Nieuws-item/179443/Van-Bommel-beveelt-Gomes-aan-bij-Van-Gaal.htm

    EFF OFF! Grr
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    Post by chrissicross Wed Apr 28, 2010 12:42 pm

    Three-match ban for Ribéry

    Published: Wednesday 28 April 2010, 12.01CET

    UEFA's Control and Disciplinary Body has handed a three-game suspension to Franck Ribéry for serious foul play in FC Bayern München's UEFA Champions League semi-final first leg.

    FC Bayern München's Franck Ribéry will miss the UEFA Champions League final after the UEFA Control and Disciplinary Body today decided to suspend the winger for three UEFA club competition matches for assault.

    Ribéry received a red card for serious foul play in the UEFA Champions League semi-final first leg against Olympique Lyonnais in Munich on 21 April. The French international was banned for last night's second leg in Lyon, which means that the suspension now remains in place for two further games – the UEFA Champions League final in Madrid on 22 May and the following match in any UEFA club competition for which he is eligible.

    Bayern may appeal within three days of communication of the decision.
    http://www.uefa.com/uefa/footballfirst/matchorganisation/disciplinary/news/newsid=1482249.html

    Harsh decision. Or wasn't it his first red card in a European Competition?
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    Post by Antarion Wed Apr 28, 2010 12:46 pm

    chrissicross wrote:
    Three-match ban for Ribéry

    Published: Wednesday 28 April 2010, 12.01CET

    UEFA's Control and Disciplinary Body has handed a three-game suspension to Franck Ribéry for serious foul play in FC Bayern München's UEFA Champions League semi-final first leg.

    FC Bayern München's Franck Ribéry will miss the UEFA Champions League final after the UEFA Control and Disciplinary Body today decided to suspend the winger for three UEFA club competition matches for assault.

    Ribéry received a red card for serious foul play in the UEFA Champions League semi-final first leg against Olympique Lyonnais in Munich on 21 April. The French international was banned for last night's second leg in Lyon, which means that the suspension now remains in place for two further games – the UEFA Champions League final in Madrid on 22 May and the following match in any UEFA club competition for which he is eligible.

    Bayern may appeal within three days of communication of the decision.
    http://www.uefa.com/uefa/footballfirst/matchorganisation/disciplinary/news/newsid=1482249.html

    Harsh decision. Or wasn't it his first red card in a European Competition?

    Well he got a three match ban in case of bayern protesting against the verdict. Then they could lower it to two games and he will still miss the final.
    Overall its really hard what he should get, but preventing a player from playing one of the biggest games of his life because of an accidential action is a bit harsh imo. I would also be in favour of removing all yellow card suspensions before a final ok
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    Post by chrissicross Wed Apr 28, 2010 12:52 pm

    Antarion wrote:preventing a player from playing one of the biggest games of his life because of an accidential action is a bit harsh imo. I would also be in favour of removing all yellow card suspensions before a final ok
    Yeah, I agree.

    Straight red and a one game ban would have been enough in this case. Oh well, Platini's revenge maybe. Erm
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    Post by chrissicross Wed Apr 28, 2010 1:11 pm

    CL-Pressestimmen

    "Die deutsche Maschine ist wieder zurück"

    "Bayern München war unermüdlich": Die internationale Presse lobt die Münchner und ihre Spielweise nach dem Finaleinzug gegen Lyon. In Italien ist man sich sicher, dass Olic "ein paar Lungen extra" hat, in England sah man "Überzeugungskraft, die an Verachtung grenzte".

    FRANKREICH

    Le Progrès: "OL wurde auf ganzer Linie beherrscht und wird nicht sein erstes Champions-League-Finale bestreiten. Man wird Barça oder Inter mit Nachdruck empfehlen, sich vor den ebenso homogenen wie effizienten Bayern in Acht zu nehmen."

    Le Parisien: "Es gibt keine Ungerechtigkeit, und auch nichts zu bedauern. Die Bayern waren einfach zu stark für dieses schwache OL. Lyon hat es nicht verdient, in das Finale einzuziehen."

    L'Equipe: "Ein Abend wie ein Albtraum für Lyon. So hatten die Lyonnais gegen ganz starke Bayern keine Chance - sie wurden schwer aus der Bahn geworfen und hart getroffen. Für dieses Niveau ist die Mannschaft einfach noch zu unerfahren."

    Liberation: "Olympique Lyon wird das Finale vor dem Fernseher verfolgen. Bayern München war viel stärker und unermüdlich."

    France Soir: "Im Wettbewerb um ein historisches Triple haben die erfahrenen Bayern dem erschöpften Lyon am Dienstag eine Lektion erteilt. Die Lyonnaisen können sich glücklich schätzen, dass sie dank eines wieder soliden Lloris nur drei Tore kassiert haben".

    ITALIEN

    La Gazzetta dello Sport: "Bayern ist schon in Madrid. Gegen diese Bayern wird es für jeden hart. Olic zerstört das kleine Lyon. Robben geht mal leer aus, dafür spielt der Stürmer aus Kroatien wie entfesselt. Von der ersten Minute an spielten nur die Bayern. Van Gaal hat wieder einmal eine technische und taktische Lektion erteilt. Olic muss ein paar Lungen extra haben."

    Corriere dello Sport: Bayern fliegt ins Finale. Olic schießt München mit einem Dreierschlag nach Madrid."

    Tuttosport: "Auf Olic Schwingen fliegt Bayern ins Champions League-Finale. Mit drei Toren war der Kroate der Matador des Abends. Bayern darf weiter träumen.

    SPANIEN

    El País: "Ein machtvoller FC Bayern beherrschte Lyon vom Anfang bis zum Ende."

    El Mundo: "Der FC Bayern kehrt zur europäischen Spitze zurück. Olic schreibt mit seinem Hattrick Fußballgeschichte. Dem Kroaten gelang erstmals in der Champions League ein Dreierpack in einem Auswärtsspiel."

    El Periódico de Catalunya: "Der FC Bayern zerstört den Traum von Olympique Lyon. Die Franzosen hatten allerdings fußballerisch nichts zu bieten."

    As: "Bayern München erteilte Olympique Lyon in Hin- und Rückspiel eine Lektion in taktischer wie in physischer Hinsicht."

    Marca: "Hattrick von Olic - und die Bayern sind im Finale von Bernabeu. Die deutsche Maschine ist wieder zurück. Die Bayern haben Olympique Lyon verprügelt. Mit Robben kommt ein früherer Weißer in einem anderen Trikot zurück ins Bernabeu - um da zu spielen, wo ein Fest des Madridismo hätte gefeiert werden sollen."

    ENGLAND

    The Sun: "Ivica Olic schießt einen perfekten Hattrick und bringt die Bayern ins größte Spiel des Clubfußballs. Die Bayern brauchten nur ein Unentschieden, aber sie stürmten los wie die Feuerwehr."

    The Guardian: "Olic' Hattrick schlägt Lyon und schickt die Bayern ins Finale. Mit einer Überzeugungskraft, die an Verachtung grenzte, räumten die Bayern Lyon beiseite. Lyon ist Bayerns letztes Opfer auf derem gnadenlosen Marsch nach Madrid."

    The Independent: "Die Bayern hätten ihre Final-Shirts auch schon von Beginn an tragen können, so überzeugt waren sie von sich. Ihr plumper kroatischer Stürmer Olic erzielte einen Hattrick - nicht schlecht für einen ablösefreien Spieler aus Hamburg." (God bless our English friends Laugh )

    Daily Telegraph: "Die Bayern spazieren ins Finale. Typische Deutsche? Nichts weniger als das! Die Bayern greifen nach ihrem fünften Europacup - dank der taktischen Inspiration eines Niederländers und des Hattricks eines Kroaten. Sir Alex Ferguson kennt dieses Skript nur zu gut."

    The Times: "Man muss Sir Alex Ferguson verzeihen, dass er am liebsten die Katze getreten hätte oder gar in den Fernseher, als er zu Hause saß und Bayern München dabei zusah, wie sie gegen ein mattes Lyon ins Finale flanierten. Mit ihrer stolzen Geschichte, ihrer wunderbaren Arena und ihrer heimischen Dominanz sehen sich die Bayern als einen der größten Clubs der Welt - jetzt haben sie die Gelegenheit zu beweisen, dass sie es auch wirklich sind. Dank Olic, der mit seinem gedrungenen Körper, seiner Arbeitsethik und seiner Raubeinigkeit wie die Balkan-Ausgabe von Carlos Tevez anmutet."
    http://www.spiegel.de/sport/fussball/0,1518,691773,00.html
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    Post by blutgraetsche Wed Apr 28, 2010 7:59 pm

    Congrats Bayern fans, a well deserved finalist! Best of luck in the final. Ale

    With the way things are going for you this season, I can see you winning the damn thing, no matter who you have to play against. But one thing is for sure: No treble, mes amis. See you on May 15th.
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    Post by Antarion Thu Apr 29, 2010 8:52 am

    Bayern appealed the decision. UEFA counted it as an assault while Bayern said it wasn't intentional and "only" rude foul (which is more often than not a one game suspension in a UEFA competition like 7 out of the 10 red cards so far, all of those had only a one game suspension).

    So there is a 5% hope they rethink their decision and give him a one match ban, a 45% chance that they rethink their decision and give him two game ban instead of three and a 50% chance that nothing happens at all.
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    Post by Effenberg Thu Apr 29, 2010 2:08 pm

    Shouldn't "assault" be when you hit somebody in the face or something? If you look at the foul in normal speed, you see that he was simply a few milliseconds late.

    As a Spanish guy on AS said: If that's 3 games, then what Pepe did is prison.
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    Post by Antarion Thu Apr 29, 2010 2:38 pm

    Effenberg wrote:Shouldn't "assault" be when you hit somebody in the face or something? If you look at the foul in normal speed, you see that he was simply a few milliseconds late.

    Yeah exactly i wonderesd how you could put it down as an assault at all. It wasn't intentional, but the judge guys ruled otherwise. Lets see if the appeal will have any effect at all.
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    Post by Ä Thu Apr 29, 2010 2:45 pm

    sorry , antari

    it looked VERY intentional

    or at least

    maliciously clumsy to me
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    Post by Antarion Thu Apr 29, 2010 3:26 pm

    Ä wrote:sorry , antari

    it looked VERY intentional

    or at least

    maliciously clumsy to me

    Maybe, its always hard to decide such things. What would be fair what not? Its up to three guys watching replays.

    But if they asked the ref and he said he gave the red for assault, i think its only fair to hand out a 3 match suspension here unless he admits that he was wrong after seing the tv replay.
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    Post by Effenberg Thu Apr 29, 2010 3:44 pm

    Antarion wrote:
    Ä wrote:sorry , antari

    it looked VERY intentional

    or at least

    maliciously clumsy to me

    Maybe, its always hard to decide such things. What would be fair what not? Its up to three guys watching replays.

    But if they asked the ref and he said he gave the red for assault, i think its only fair to hand out a 3 match suspension here unless he admits that he was wrong after seing the tv replay.

    What??? The ref is an idiot then.
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    Post by Stiftung Haeschentest Thu Apr 29, 2010 3:51 pm

    The ref himself is said to have written into his report that it was a "rough play" (= 1 match ban).

    But the UEFA Control and Disciplinary Body thought it was a violent conduct (= 3 match ban), because Ribéry had no chance of getting the ball.