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    So Ronaldo....

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    Post by DS Tue Jun 16, 2009 1:26 pm

    No.
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    Post by Romford Pele Tue Jun 16, 2009 1:27 pm

    Good ok
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    Post by Tweesus Tue Jun 16, 2009 1:28 pm

    Well the 'best player' has to be a Utd player really seems as they've won it so many times.

    So personally I'd say its Cantona. I don't think he can be considered as good as ronaldo in terms of ability but he was a bit more magical than him in that he was more technical - he didn't exactly have much pace.
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    Post by Kimbo Tue Jun 16, 2009 1:30 pm

    Tweedle wrote:Well the 'best player' has to be a Utd player really seems as they've won it so many times.

    So personally I'd say its Cantona. I don't think he can be considered as good as ronaldo in terms of ability but he was a bit more magical than him in that he was more technical - he didn't exactly have much pace.

    I don't understand that logic. scratch
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    Post by Romford Pele Tue Jun 16, 2009 1:31 pm

    He had much more ability than Ronaldo....but not the pace and was nowhere near as effective. Plus the United team now was much better than back then.
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    Post by Axeslammer Tue Jun 16, 2009 1:32 pm

    Stimulus Package wrote:
    Axeslammer wrote:
    The Tupac Twitch wrote:
    The question should be - where does he rank as in terms of the most hated egotistical c**ts in Premiership history?

    Slightly ahead of Henry cheers

    Very Happy

    Exactly.

    Had to look back to get the phrasing right Wink
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    Post by Axeslammer Tue Jun 16, 2009 1:41 pm

    Kimbo wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:Well the 'best player' has to be a Utd player really seems as they've won it so many times.

    So personally I'd say its Cantona. I don't think he can be considered as good as ronaldo in terms of ability but he was a bit more magical than him in that he was more technical - he didn't exactly have much pace.

    I don't understand that logic. scratch

    It's called Trophy Hunter / German logic : they will eat their own and even sacrifice the sport itself in order to win prizes.

    They're not football fans : they're trophy fans Ale

    They equal skill with prizes won Doh

    Me as an Oranje fan and you as a Newcastle fan will (thankfully) never understand their kind cheers
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    Post by christmasborocooper Tue Jun 16, 2009 1:42 pm

    1. Juninho

    2 onwards..who cares?
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    Post by L r dd Tue Jun 16, 2009 1:42 pm

    Axeslammer wrote:
    Kimbo wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:Well the 'best player' has to be a Utd player really seems as they've won it so many times.

    So personally I'd say its Cantona. I don't think he can be considered as good as ronaldo in terms of ability but he was a bit more magical than him in that he was more technical - he didn't exactly have much pace.

    I don't understand that logic. scratch

    It's called Trophy Hunter / German logic : they will eat their own and even sacrifice the sport itself in order to win prizes.

    They're not football fans : they're trophy fans Ale

    They equal skill with prizes won Doh

    Me as an Oranje fan and you as a Newcastle fan will (thankfully) never understand their kind cheers

    So the dutchie reckons Bergkamp and the geordie reckons shearer. ok what outstanding fair insight you both bring us.
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    Post by Romford Pele Tue Jun 16, 2009 1:42 pm

    Don't generalise.....
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    Post by Tweesus Tue Jun 16, 2009 1:43 pm

    Kimbo wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:Well the 'best player' has to be a Utd player really seems as they've won it so many times.

    So personally I'd say its Cantona. I don't think he can be considered as good as ronaldo in terms of ability but he was a bit more magical than him in that he was more technical - he didn't exactly have much pace.

    I don't understand that logic. scratch

    No, you're right. Its Steven Gerrard

    GERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRDDDDD

    Are you wet yet?
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    Post by Six Tue Jun 16, 2009 1:43 pm

    Tweedle wrote:Well the 'best player' has to be a Utd player really seems as they've won it so many times.

    So personally I'd say its Cantona. I don't think he can be considered as good as ronaldo in terms of ability but he was a bit more magical than him in that he was more technical - he didn't exactly have much pace.

    Ronaldo should be ahead of Cantona in every way tbh. Cantona is so overrated it is unreal.
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    Post by Luis Tue Jun 16, 2009 1:43 pm

    Tweedle wrote:
    Kimbo wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:Well the 'best player' has to be a Utd player really seems as they've won it so many times.

    So personally I'd say its Cantona. I don't think he can be considered as good as ronaldo in terms of ability but he was a bit more magical than him in that he was more technical - he didn't exactly have much pace.

    I don't understand that logic. scratch

    No, you're right. Its Steven Gerrard

    GERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRDDDDD

    Are you wet yet?

    Why would Kimbo think it was Gerrard? scratch
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    Post by Axeslammer Tue Jun 16, 2009 1:45 pm

    L-r d wrote:
    So the dutchie reckons Bergkamp and the geordie reckons shearer. ok what outstanding fair insight you both bring us.

    I would ignore Le Tiss and Cantona too, little bit hard to fit into your agenda Ale
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    Post by L r dd Tue Jun 16, 2009 1:45 pm

    Ray Parlour wrote:Don't generalise.....

    And you think it's ray parlour. which is ridiculous

    only tweedle offers a non biased opinion and he gets lambasted for it Doh
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    Post by Kimbo Tue Jun 16, 2009 1:47 pm

    I haven't actually said it's Shearer, but yeah, 260 premiership goals. <Ale>
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    Post by Tweesus Tue Jun 16, 2009 1:47 pm

    L-r d wrote:
    Ray Parlour wrote:Don't generalise.....

    And you think it's ray parlour. which is ridiculous

    only tweedle offers a non biased opinion and he gets lambasted for it Doh

    Actually, I've changed my mind to glen johnson now.
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    Post by Romford Pele Tue Jun 16, 2009 1:49 pm

    When did I say Ray Parlour was one of the league's greats?
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    Post by Parks lives Tue Jun 16, 2009 1:49 pm

    1. Keane
    2. Shearer
    3. Bergkamp
    4. Giggs
    5. Cantona
    6. Ronaldo
    7. Henry
    8. Zola
    9. Vieria
    10. Scholes/Gerrard

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    Post by Romford Pele Tue Jun 16, 2009 1:50 pm

    I'd have Le Tiss in there but otherwise a good enough start for the top 10.
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    Post by Rosicky Tue Jun 16, 2009 1:51 pm

    Why is Cantona rated so highly he played when The Prem was the 4th best league in Europe at best.

    Ronaldo played in the prem when it was the best and destroyed it.

    Ronaldo >>> Cantona
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    Post by Pras_tama Tue Jun 16, 2009 1:51 pm

    When you used his name for your username
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    Post by Axeslammer Tue Jun 16, 2009 1:54 pm

    Rosicky wrote:Why is Cantona rated so highly he played when The Prem was the 4th best league in Europe at best.

    Ronaldo played in the prem when it was the best and destroyed it.

    Ronaldo >>> Cantona

    Because Ronaldo has the vision of a blind brick without a seeing dog, equals style with cheating and thinks flair is refusing to celebrate with teammates.

    Cantona oozed style and class (even while he was a bit of c**t), personified vision and had the kind of flair that could silence even the haters.
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    Post by Romford Pele Tue Jun 16, 2009 1:56 pm

    Axeslammer wrote:
    Rosicky wrote:Why is Cantona rated so highly he played when The Prem was the 4th best league in Europe at best.

    Ronaldo played in the prem when it was the best and destroyed it.

    Ronaldo >>> Cantona

    Because Ronaldo has the vision of a blind brick without a seeing dog, equals style with cheating and thinks flair is refusing to celebrate with teammates.

    Cantona oozed style and class (even while he was a bit of c**t), personified vision and had the kind of flair that could silence even the haters.

    <Ale>
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    Post by Aristoskank Tue Jun 16, 2009 1:57 pm

    I'd have Gerrard and Scholes ahead of Ronaldo. Destroying the league for a couple of seasons then getting bored and moaning all the time hardly makes you a legend. In the 'Sami Hyypia is a legend' sense of the word. Whereas Scholes has been central to Man U's sustained success for over a decade. You could say the same about Gerrard, who has after all won everything except the league title. I'd also have Cantona roughly on a par with Zola, a little ahead of Ronaldo/Henry.
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    Post by L r dd Tue Jun 16, 2009 1:57 pm

    Ray Parlour wrote:
    Axeslammer wrote:
    Rosicky wrote:Why is Cantona rated so highly he played when The Prem was the 4th best league in Europe at best.

    Ronaldo played in the prem when it was the best and destroyed it.

    Ronaldo >>> Cantona

    Because Ronaldo has the vision of a blind brick without a seeing dog, equals style with cheating and thinks flair is refusing to celebrate with teammates.

    Cantona oozed style and class (even while he was a bit of c**t), personified vision and had the kind of flair that could silence even the haters.

    <Ale>

    You were 7 when Cantona retired. What the fuck do you know Biggrin
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    Post by Romford Pele Tue Jun 16, 2009 1:59 pm

    I knew that Cantona could see a pass and epitomised what an actual footballer was, not like that greasy eyed buffoon.
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    Post by L r dd Tue Jun 16, 2009 2:04 pm

    Ray Parlour wrote:I knew that Cantona could see a pass and epitomised what an actual footballer was, not like that greasy eyed buffoon.

    Cantona could do amazing things. But Cantona had so many bad games. Cantona sometimes had poor control or would miss simple chances or struggle to beat a player. He was a genius at that time, but to be honest he was never one of the best in the world.
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    Post by Romford Pele Tue Jun 16, 2009 2:10 pm

    Erm Ronaldo has just as many bad games if not more. I've seen so many games where Ronaldo has hardly had a touch but then he'll turn up and score and all of a sudden he's hyped to the heavens.

    Cantona was never one of the best players in the world your right but given a choice I'd watch him over Ronaldo every day of the week.
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    Post by L r dd Tue Jun 16, 2009 2:12 pm

    Not really. In the last year or so Ronaldo dropped off for sure. Before that he turned up pretty much all the time. Ronaldo is 24 and he already has scored more goals than Cantona did in his career. Cantona was a striker. Cantona went missing in europe wayyy to much as well. I loved the guy but he isnt in the same class even if he had more class.

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