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Premier League discussion 15th/16th August
Tom- Number of posts : 12185
Age : 34
Supports : Chelsea
Registration date : 2006-08-06
drogba top corner. heeeree weeee gooooo
Tom- Number of posts : 12185
Age : 34
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Registration date : 2006-08-06
DROOGGBAAAAA!!!!!!!!
COTR- Number of posts : 26580
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Samba scores from a free kick that never was
debaser- Number of posts : 22064
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Ridiculous freee kick. Score one for the refs
Tom- Number of posts : 12185
Age : 34
Supports : Chelsea
Registration date : 2006-08-06
liverpool fans talking about generous freekicks given at home, yay for football!
SuperMario- Number of posts : 16866
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Bloody russian ref!
Six- Number of posts : 4390
Supports : Liverpool
Registration date : 2009-01-14
Chelsea diamond makes them struggle for creativity just like Inter last season. Drogba Ibrahimovic-style will get them out of some games, but don't see it working over the course of a whole season.
Di Caniooooo!- Number of posts : 10829
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I wish we got sky sports in the US
COTR- Number of posts : 26580
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Six wrote:Chelsea diamond makes them struggle for creativity just like Inter last season. Drogba Ibrahimovic-style will get them out of some games, but don't see it working over the course of a whole season.
It can work if he changes the personnel involved
Cole, Zhirkov and Deco can all improve it. Hopefully Mikel stays fit all season.
Tom- Number of posts : 12185
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Christopher Samba has come alive!
COTR- Number of posts : 26580
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Ballack wrote:Christopher Samba has come alive!
The bloody ref has awakened the beast
Tom- Number of posts : 12185
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surely ballack can perform that holding role rather than mikel.
Puro- Number of posts : 10679
Registration date : 2006-09-12
Morning mes amis! phew! Ancelotti had better remove the garbage from the tip of his diamond and put someone who can actually feed the strikers.
We KNOW Lampard has to play much like Terry even though Alex or Ivanovic are better than Terry, however, for the tip of Ancelotti's diamond DECO IS A MUST! Just saying.
LAMPARD IS USELESS!
We KNOW Lampard has to play much like Terry even though Alex or Ivanovic are better than Terry, however, for the tip of Ancelotti's diamond DECO IS A MUST! Just saying.
LAMPARD IS USELESS!
Football Genius- Number of posts : 7743
Age : 40
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Registration date : 2006-08-07
Ballack wrote:surely ballack can perform that holding role rather than mikel.
And you're apparently a Chelsea fan!
Ballack's superior attributes are in the final third of the pitch, not the first third.
COTR- Number of posts : 26580
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Ballack wrote:surely ballack can perform that holding role rather than mikel.
Essien is totally perfect for it.
What the fuck do these managers see in Mikel
.....................Essien
....Deco/Cole..............Zhirkov
.....................Flump
He'll settle on this eventually as he realises Mikel is shit
Tom- Number of posts : 12185
Age : 34
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Funnily enough, he has actually played for us in that holding role. He's also played there before for Germany so the actual idea isn't as ridiculous as your senseless mind is making it out to be.Football Genius wrote:Ballack wrote:surely ballack can perform that holding role rather than mikel.
And you're apparently a Chelsea fan!
Ballack's superior attributes are in the final third of the pitch, not the first third.
My point is that Ballack's passing range would be a lot more suitable when we play at home to teams such as hull rather than Mikel.
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chelsea are still boring to watch, too much pace and power in that team, not enough creativity, they need to start deco, cole and that russian guy, their football would improve immediately
COTR- Number of posts : 26580
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Puro wrote:Morning mes amis! phew! Ancelotti had better remove the garbage from the tip of his diamond and put someone who can actually feed the strikers.
We KNOW Lampard has to play much like Terry even though Alex or Ivanovic are better than Terry, however, for the tip of Ancelotti's diamond DECO IS A MUST! Just saying.
LAMPARD IS USELESS!
Good old Claudio is at the game in his Chelsea T-shirt Puro. What's up with him
Tom- Number of posts : 12185
Age : 34
Supports : Chelsea
Registration date : 2006-08-06
Cole and 'that russian guy' are both injured.
Football Genius- Number of posts : 7743
Age : 40
Supports : Liverpool
Registration date : 2006-08-07
Puro wrote:Morning mes amis! phew! Ancelotti had better remove the garbage from the tip of his diamond and put someone who can actually feed the strikers.
We KNOW Lampard has to play much like Terry even though Alex or Ivanovic are better than Terry, however, for the tip of Ancelotti's diamond DECO IS A MUST! Just saying.
LAMPARD IS USELESS!
Alright pillock!
Lampard has actually been okay, no matter WHO you put at the tip of this diamond, Chelsea won't excel... their lack of width is what is killing them at the moment. Each time Lampard recieves the ball, he looks right and then left, but no-one is there.
You really are a fucking clown aren't you? i'm laughing my tits off here...
Sheffield gunner- Number of posts : 16403
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It's not that bizarre a comment. Ballack has played in that sort of role before in his career. Chelsea need someone who can distribute the ball well from that position, and Ballack can do that better than Mikel. I wouldn't play him there against all opposition, but I think he could offer more than Mikel does in a game like this.
Six- Number of posts : 4390
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Registration date : 2009-01-14
Ballack dictating the play from the bottom of the diamond makes sense to me. Lampard at the tip doesn't though.
debaser- Number of posts : 22064
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Mikel fell over very well for the FK. Not saying Ballack couldn't do that, but it's something to bear in mind.
Deluded F*ck™- Number of posts : 21765
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Drog Day one. FF Points!
Football Genius- Number of posts : 7743
Age : 40
Supports : Liverpool
Registration date : 2006-08-07
Ballack wrote:Funnily enough, he has actually played for us in that holding role. He's also played there before for Germany so the actual idea isn't as ridiculous as your senseless mind is making it out to be.Football Genius wrote:Ballack wrote:surely ballack can perform that holding role rather than mikel.
And you're apparently a Chelsea fan!
Ballack's superior attributes are in the final third of the pitch, not the first third.
My point is that Ballack's passing range would be a lot more suitable when we play at home to teams such as hull rather than Mikel.
Your thought process is right, however the personnel is way wrong, either put Essien as the holding player, or change the direction of play and use Deco. Ballack is not a holding midfielder.
You need with to offer an outlet, you don't have this.
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debaser wrote:Mikel fell over very well for the FK. Not saying Ballack couldn't do that, but it's something to bear in mind.
The MASTER of this is on the bench alongside Ballack though
He is the greatest ever
Puro- Number of posts : 10679
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Football Genius wrote:Puro wrote:Morning mes amis! phew! Ancelotti had better remove the garbage from the tip of his diamond and put someone who can actually feed the strikers.
We KNOW Lampard has to play much like Terry even though Alex or Ivanovic are better than Terry, however, for the tip of Ancelotti's diamond DECO IS A MUST! Just saying.
LAMPARD IS USELESS!
Alright pillock!
Lampard has actually been okay, no matter WHO you put at the tip of this diamond, Chelsea won't excel... their lack of width is what is killing them at the moment. Each time Lampard recieves the ball, he looks right and then left, but no-one is there.
You really are a fucking clown aren't you? i'm laughing my tits off here...
FUCK YOU! you don't know the game so shut the fuck up!
A & K- Number of posts : 3347
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god damn stream lines, keep cutting all the time for fkg donation or reaching max nbr of stream bla bla bla.
A & K- Number of posts : 3347
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god damn stream lines, keep cutting all the time for fkg donation or reaching max nbr of stream bla bla bla.
Tom- Number of posts : 12185
Age : 34
Supports : Chelsea
Registration date : 2006-08-06
But that's not my point. My point is that Ballack has a much greater passing range than the likes of Essien and Mikel, so having him in that 'Pirlo' role against weaker teams at home would make sense, because there isn't such a great impetus on Ballack to be making a load of tackles, its mainly just tracking back.Football Genius wrote:Ballack wrote:Funnily enough, he has actually played for us in that holding role. He's also played there before for Germany so the actual idea isn't as ridiculous as your senseless mind is making it out to be.Football Genius wrote:Ballack wrote:surely ballack can perform that holding role rather than mikel.
And you're apparently a Chelsea fan!
Ballack's superior attributes are in the final third of the pitch, not the first third.
My point is that Ballack's passing range would be a lot more suitable when we play at home to teams such as hull rather than Mikel.
Your thought process is right, however the personnel is way wrong, either put Essien as the holding player, or change the direction of play and use Deco. Ballack is not a holding midfielder.
You need with to offer an outlet, you don't have this.
The formation will take time to properly adapt, and I do agree that it doesn't really seem to suit us just yet. But it's only the 2nd competitive game we've played and it's too early to make a final judgement just yet.
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