14.09.06 UEFA CUP

borocooper wrote:

Sheffield gunner wrote:Blackburn have scored two quick goals to take the lead against Salzburg. Savage and McCarthy with the goals.

Salzburg 1-2 Blackburn

I forgot they were even playing!

Arent they on the telly anywhere?

Don't think so. All I could find was Spurs on five, West Ham on ITV4 and surprisingly Derry City on Eurosport.

the MIDGET to Barca??
That is an even better rumour then the Heitinga to ManU one.

Sheffield gunner wrote:

borocooper wrote:

Sheffield gunner wrote:Blackburn have scored two quick goals to take the lead against Salzburg. Savage and McCarthy with the goals.

Salzburg 1-2 Blackburn

I forgot they were even playing!

Arent they on the telly anywhere?

Don't think so. All I could find was Spurs on five, West Ham on ITV4 and surprisingly Derry City on Eurosport.

their fans must be a bit pissed off with that

dont panic! wrote:
dont miss a chance do you...

you enjoying tonight so far?

I'm just telling it like it is. Watch the game yourself on DSF, if you actually have German TV in your bunker that is.

Not really enjoying it, why should I?

Fey wrote: the MIDGET to Barca??
That is an even better rumour then the Heitinga to ManU one.

what Midget to Barcelona??, first i heard this

can you please post silly posts in the off-topic section...

back to the topic at hand.

feyenoord are doing great in their uefa cup game

d gorgeous one haz spoken wrote:back to the topic at hand.

feyenoord are doing great in their uefa cup game

HT Hearts 0 - 1 Sparta Prague

rai Mihawk wrote:

d gorgeous one haz spoken wrote:^

marca have some quotes from laporta saying that sneijderman is high on their wanted list and highlights his free kicks and diversity. he also thinks that sneijderman can be one of the football greats.

funny how people like laporta and others can see these things but some of the dutch poster on here that clearly are not biased (a) can't.

The biggest criticism he gets on this board is that he is 'arrogant'...at times he shows this side (recent example that goal celebration against PSV) but i see him as passionate

whether or not that rumour is true (Sneijder leaves) -- i don't want to happen, he is key for Ajax in the near future..

everybody at ajax is branded 'arrogant' that's why those criticasters are belittled as calimeros. don't you think it's funny that everytime a player leaves ajax they immediately restract their previous statements about said player and he's all of a sudden not so 'arrogant' anymore? (i.e. nigelinho and rafaelinho)

van nistelrooy was responsible for bellion leaving united and had to leave himself after a feud with fergie and c. ronaldo before that and all the dutchies think he's a saint! yeah right lol.

Schaars?! How did he miss that one?

Fey wrote:

d gorgeous one haz spoken wrote:back to the topic at hand.

feyenoord are doing great in their uefa cup game

you will make it in the return. if the result stays like this, with only one goal and you're through!

YESSSSSSSSSSSSS 2-2 Greene...

d gorgeous one haz spoken wrote:

rai Mihawk wrote:

d gorgeous one haz spoken wrote:^

marca have some quotes from laporta saying that sneijderman is high on their wanted list and highlights his free kicks and diversity. he also thinks that sneijderman can be one of the football greats.

funny how people like laporta and others can see these things but some of the dutch poster on here that clearly are not biased (a) can't.

The biggest criticism he gets on this board is that he is 'arrogant'...at times he shows this side (recent example that goal celebration against PSV) but i see him as passionate

whether or not that rumour is true (Sneijder leaves) -- i don't want to happen, he is key for Ajax in the near future..

everybody at ajax is branded 'arrogant' that's why those criticasters are belittled as calimeros. don't you think it's funny that everytime a player leaves ajax they immediately restract their previous statements about said player and he's all of a sudden not so 'arrogant' anymore? (i.e. nigelinho and rafaelinho)

van nistelrooy was responsible for bellion leaving united and had to leave himself after a feud with fergie and c. ronaldo before that and all the dutchies think he's a saint! yeah right lol.

Since when is deJong isn't arrogant anymore?
vdVaart never ever was arrogant in my eyes.

i believe i've read somewhere on this board that 'de jong hasn't been as arrogant anymore since he moved to hsv'.

don't really recall who posted that tho'.

1-0 Palermo

0-2 Sevilla (Duda, 42')

d gorgeous one haz spoken wrote:i believe i've read somewhere on this board that 'de jong hasn't been as arrogant anymore since he moved to hsv'.

don't really recall who posted that tho'.

Can't be true, because everyone at HSV is arrogant.

anglophileHedgehog wrote:0-2 Sevilla (Duda, 42')

Wonder how Hinkel is doing. Go Andy!

Derry 0 - 0 PSG FT

Derry should have had a penalty earlier on, blatant.

borocooper wrote:1-0 Palermo

how r west ham doing? how r tevez and javier playing?

i sold out and decided to watch dragons den instead

Derry City 0-0 PSG FT

Great result for Derry, but PSG are surely going to be slaughtered in the French papers for failing to win against such a small team.

Braga 2-0 Chievo. Chievo reduced to 9 players already

if channel 5 did the prem, i think i would grow to hate football

kingrosicky wrote:

borocooper wrote:1-0 Palermo

how r west ham doing? how r tevez and javier playing?

i sold out and decided to watch dragons den instead

they're player reasonably well.

They should have gone 1-0 up about 2 minutes before they went 0-1 down.

Tevez missed the chance though(saved by the keeper)

Penalty for Frankfurt! WTF? 2 red cards for Brödby as well! One for handball in the box, one for another Bröndby player losing his nerves.

Thurk scores for Frankfurt!

Frankfurt vs. Bröndby 1-0

15:30 FT Rubin 0 : 1 Parma
16:55 FT Levadia T 0 : 1 Newcastle United
17:00 FT Hertha 2 : 2 OB Odense
17:30 FT Liberec 2 : 0 Crvena Zvezda
17:30 FT Legia 1 : 1 Austria V
18:00 FT Xanthi 3 : 4 Dinamo
18:00 FT Ethnikos Achnas 0 : 0 Lens
18:00 FT Chornomorets 0 : 1 Hapoel Tel Aviv
18:15 FT Lokomotiv 2 : 1 Zulte-Waregem
18:15 FT Start 2 : 5 Ajax
18:45 FT Besiktas 2 : 0 CSKA
18:45 FT Artmedia 2 : 2 Espanyol
19:00 FT Rapid 1 : 0 Nacional
19:00 FT Schalke 04 1 : 0 Nancy
19:00 FT Trabzonspor 2 : 2 Osasuna
19:00 FT Partizan 4 : 2 Groningen
19:30 FT Atvidaberg 0 : 3 Grasshoppers
20:00 FT Derry City 0 : 0 Paris Saint Germain
20:00 FT Braga 2 : 0 Chievo
20:00 FT Basel 6 : 2 Rabotnicki
20:00 FT AZ 3 : 2 Kayserispor
20:00 90' Slavia 0 : 1 Tottenham Hotspur
20:05 90' Molde 0 : 0 Rangers
20:15 82' Dinamo Zagreb 1 : 2 Auxerre
20:15 72' Lokomotiv Sofia 2 : 2 Feyenoord
20:30 71' Sion 0 : 0 Bayer
20:30 71' Wisla Krakow 0 : 1 Iraklis
20:30 71' Standard 0 : 1 Celta
20:30 71' Maccabi Haifa 1 : 1 Liteks
20:45 53' Fenerbahce 1 : 1 Randers Freja
20:45 53' Hearts 0 : 1 Sparta
20:45 53' Eintracht Frankfurt 1 : 0 Brondby
20:45 53' Marseille 1 : 0 Boleslav
20:45 53' Panathinaikos 1 : 1 Metallurg Z.
20:45 53' Ruzomberok 0 : 1 Club Brugge
20:45 53' Salzburg 1 : 2 Blackburn Rovers
20:45 53' Livorno 1 : 0 FC Superfund
21:00 HT Atromitos 0 : 2 Sevilia
21:00 HT West Ham United 0 : 1 Palermo

boooooooooom!

The English ref finally showing some cards, but 2 reds at once? A bit tough for Bröndby, but they deserve them for fouling like mad during the match.

Amanatidis is seriously injured and being treated in the hospital already.

blutgraetsche wrote:
Bringing in more foreigners is not the best way. Good foreign players help the league, mediocre ones don't. And the really good ones are not affordable for us most of the time.
Actually, I think that the Bundesliga is doing a lot of things right these days. Clubs are forced to rely on their youth, so they invest more, and it pays off. So yes, we should stick to this strategy, those youngsters will definitely help their clubs, and German football, in future.

Only thing is, that way of action demands patience--and coaches/club officials who don't waste the young players (i.e. hype them and overplay them only to bench them at the slightest drop in form).

The Bundesliga never attracted the top foreign stars anyway, even back in the days when it was the strongest league. We always had to rely on homegrown talent. Back in those days, you had true world class talent, German players, in almost every top Bundesliga club.
So we basically have to go back to our roots, and that's what we are actually doing these days.

True--the few international stars you see around nowadays are either aging and have seen better days or virtually unheard of. Of yourse I'm generalising. But yeah, you're right...

The main reason why so many Bundesliga teams fail in the European competition, especially the UEFA cup, is because they are too naive tactically (not the top ones in the CL though; there money is the most important reason). Most of them have no strategy to beat very defensive sides, and in the UEFA cup, most teams play very defensively against German teams.
That's why we have to improve the education of the coaches, and probably attract foreign coaches, e.g. Italian ones, to help us getting more 'mature' tactically.

As long as those coaches fit the club and speak the language sufficiently... Best example of how it's NOT done? Trap in Stuttgart--sure expectations were too high as well, but he also had to leave because well, him trying to explain tactics with Andi Brehme to translate? Bwahahaha. Sorry.

Didn't Urs Siegenhthaler also say something along those lines (re:tactics)? I believe it was "you don't have to explain the concept of a four-man backline to someone like Cannavaro", though more in the context of the national squad.

Hehe...I definitely didn't have Trap in mind Wiebke. You are right, of course, the language barrier is a huge problem for foreign coaches in the Bundesliga.

Yes, Urs did actually say that. Urs knows his stuff, you know, the Swiss tend to 'outGerman' us, they are more German than the Germans themselves. So his analysis is very precise.