Real Madrid C.F. 2009/10

Easy as 123

MÁXIMO GOLEADOR HISTÓRICO DE LA CHAMPIONS LEAGUE

RAÚL GONZÁLEZ 65 goles
Ruud Van Nistelrooy 56 goles
Andrei Shevchenko 47 goles
Alfredo Di Stéfano 47 goles
Thierry Henry 46 goles

Inzaghi should be above Teary surely.

If the statistics from L'equipe are correct Inzaghi is on 47 CL goals including the two from yesterday. I think if you count all European competitions he is the top scorer.

Jaime wrote:MÁXIMO GOLEADOR HISTÓRICO DE LA CHAMPIONS LEAGUE

RAÚL GONZÁLEZ 65 goles
Ruud Van Nistelrooy 56 goles
Andrei Shevchenko 47 goles
Alfredo Di Stéfano 47 goles
Thierry Henry 46 goles

Regarding Benzema I think he really has to start against Xerez and just to mix it up maybe give Ruud a chance aswell. It will be very interesting to see how we shape up without Alonso which is the main worrying point for me this season. The purchase of Alonso(or that type) has been obvious for years now but I think we should have even bought another player who could do a similar job. Because Gago is giving me less and less confidence these days and while Lass has improved in passing I don't think we can count on him for that sort of stuff and M.Diarra

Guti can't exactly be trusted in central midfield(allthough fine as Am) either so that leaves Granero who should be tried there. With Xerez being the opponent we might be able to do without a distributor in midfield but against better teams we will be exposed if Alonso isn't playing.

Super Granero wrote:

Jaime wrote:MÁXIMO GOLEADOR HISTÓRICO DE LA CHAMPIONS LEAGUE

RAÚL GONZÁLEZ 65 goles
Ruud Van Nistelrooy 56 goles
Andrei Shevchenko 47 goles
Alfredo Di Stéfano 47 goles
Thierry Henry 46 goles

Regarding Benzema I think he really has to start against Xerez and just to mix it up maybe give Ruud a chance aswell. It will be very interesting to see how we shape up without Alonso which is the main worrying point for me this season. The purchase of Alonso(or that type) has been obvious for years now but I think we should have even bought another player who could do a similar job. Because Gago is giving me less and less confidence these days and while Lass has improved in passing I don't think we can count on him for that sort of stuff and M.Diarra

Guti can't exactly be trusted in central midfield(allthough fine as Am) either so that leaves Granero who should be tried there. With Xerez being the opponent we might be able to do without a distributor in midfield but against better teams we will be exposed if Alonso isn't playing.

I've been saying for two months now, the problem could have been averted if we had simply kept Parejo. If Gago played in Lass' role I'm sure he would do fine but if you put either of them as the team's organiser/main distributor then we will have trouble.

Jaime wrote:

Super Granero wrote:

Jaime wrote:MÁXIMO GOLEADOR HISTÓRICO DE LA CHAMPIONS LEAGUE

RAÚL GONZÁLEZ 65 goles
Ruud Van Nistelrooy 56 goles
Andrei Shevchenko 47 goles
Alfredo Di Stéfano 47 goles
Thierry Henry 46 goles

Regarding Benzema I think he really has to start against Xerez and just to mix it up maybe give Ruud a chance aswell. It will be very interesting to see how we shape up without Alonso which is the main worrying point for me this season. The purchase of Alonso(or that type) has been obvious for years now but I think we should have even bought another player who could do a similar job. Because Gago is giving me less and less confidence these days and while Lass has improved in passing I don't think we can count on him for that sort of stuff and M.Diarra

Guti can't exactly be trusted in central midfield(allthough fine as Am) either so that leaves Granero who should be tried there. With Xerez being the opponent we might be able to do without a distributor in midfield but against better teams we will be exposed if Alonso isn't playing.

I've been saying for two months now, the problem could have been averted if we had simply kept Parejo. If Gago played in Lass' role I'm sure he would do fine but if you put either of them as the team's organiser/main distributor then we will have trouble.

If Gago doesn't evolve considerably into the type of player we need then he should be sold next year. I actually think it is a good idea to let Parejo try it out at Getafe first. The problem with us doing is that if we try to buy a similar player then Parejo has to compete with him when he returns.

Super Granero wrote:

Jaime wrote:

Super Granero wrote:

Jaime wrote:MÁXIMO GOLEADOR HISTÓRICO DE LA CHAMPIONS LEAGUE

RAÚL GONZÁLEZ 65 goles
Ruud Van Nistelrooy 56 goles
Andrei Shevchenko 47 goles
Alfredo Di Stéfano 47 goles
Thierry Henry 46 goles

Regarding Benzema I think he really has to start against Xerez and just to mix it up maybe give Ruud a chance aswell. It will be very interesting to see how we shape up without Alonso which is the main worrying point for me this season. The purchase of Alonso(or that type) has been obvious for years now but I think we should have even bought another player who could do a similar job. Because Gago is giving me less and less confidence these days and while Lass has improved in passing I don't think we can count on him for that sort of stuff and M.Diarra

Guti can't exactly be trusted in central midfield(allthough fine as Am) either so that leaves Granero who should be tried there. With Xerez being the opponent we might be able to do without a distributor in midfield but against better teams we will be exposed if Alonso isn't playing.

I've been saying for two months now, the problem could have been averted if we had simply kept Parejo. If Gago played in Lass' role I'm sure he would do fine but if you put either of them as the team's organiser/main distributor then we will have trouble.

If Gago doesn't evolve considerably into the type of player we need then he should be sold next year. I actually think it is a good idea to let Parejo try it out at Getafe first. The problem with us doing is that if we try to buy a similar player then Parejo has to compete with him when he returns.

But that's a bit silly. You don't expect players to evolve into different positions. You expect them to get better at their own position. Gago is what he is. A good defensive midfielder. He's not an organiser. End of. If Alonso had stayed on the pitch and Gago came on to replace Lass he would have done quite well I expect. If instead of Gago Pellegrini had put on Diarra and made Lass play the role of organiser then he would have struggled the same as Gago.

Jaime wrote:

Super Granero wrote:

Jaime wrote:

Super Granero wrote:

Jaime wrote:MÁXIMO GOLEADOR HISTÓRICO DE LA CHAMPIONS LEAGUE

RAÚL GONZÁLEZ 65 goles
Ruud Van Nistelrooy 56 goles
Andrei Shevchenko 47 goles
Alfredo Di Stéfano 47 goles
Thierry Henry 46 goles

Regarding Benzema I think he really has to start against Xerez and just to mix it up maybe give Ruud a chance aswell. It will be very interesting to see how we shape up without Alonso which is the main worrying point for me this season. The purchase of Alonso(or that type) has been obvious for years now but I think we should have even bought another player who could do a similar job. Because Gago is giving me less and less confidence these days and while Lass has improved in passing I don't think we can count on him for that sort of stuff and M.Diarra

Guti can't exactly be trusted in central midfield(allthough fine as Am) either so that leaves Granero who should be tried there. With Xerez being the opponent we might be able to do without a distributor in midfield but against better teams we will be exposed if Alonso isn't playing.

I've been saying for two months now, the problem could have been averted if we had simply kept Parejo. If Gago played in Lass' role I'm sure he would do fine but if you put either of them as the team's organiser/main distributor then we will have trouble.

If Gago doesn't evolve considerably into the type of player we need then he should be sold next year. I actually think it is a good idea to let Parejo try it out at Getafe first. The problem with us doing is that if we try to buy a similar player then Parejo has to compete with him when he returns.

But that's a bit silly. You don't expect players to evolve into different positions. You expect them to get better at their own position. Gago is what he is. A good defensive midfielder. He's not an organiser. End of. If Alonso had stayed on the pitch and Gago came on to replace Lass he would have done quite well I expect. If instead of Gago Pellegrini had put on Diarra and made Lass play the role of organiser then he would have struggled the same as Gago.

I know what you mean but if im not mistaken this was his role at Boca where he played like Alonso. That is why I expected something else. The way I understand he has become destroyer instead of an organiser. If that is the only thing we can expect from him then I would sell him next season because im not too impressed with how well he defends. The stats might be in his favour but I certainly think he keeps the midfield together like Lass does.

I can't really say, I didn't watch him at Boca. For me, he is a defensive midfielder. Now you can argue there are better options for DM (e.g. Lass) because you are not 'impressedw ith how well he defends' and we should have Lass and someone else (because Gago and Diarra are not good enough) for DM then fair enough. But that is something different altogether to complaining because Gago doesn't play like Alonso.

Xabi Alonso será baja ante Xerez y Villarreal

Xabi Alonso será baja ante Xerez y Villarreal. La inflamación en el sóleo después del golpe que sufrió contra el Zúrich ha bajado un poco, pero ni siquiera lo suficiente para que ayer mismo se le realizaran las pruebas para conocer el alcance exacto de su lesión. Este reconocimiento se le hará hoy.

El cuerpo médico baraja dos posibilidades: que sea un simple golpe con inflamación, en cuyo caso tendría para cuatro o cinco días de baja (se perderá, con toda seguridad, los partidos ante Xerez y Villarreal) o que el golpe haya provocado una rotura en el músculo. Dependiendo del grado de la rotura, podría estar de baja entre dos y cuatro semanas.

El jugador señaló ayer a AS que el dolor había remitido un poco después de la primera noche, pero que seguía "siendo fuerte". Xabi volvió por la mañana de Zúrich sin ayuda de muletas, pero intentando andar haciendo el juego del pie lo menos posible.

Los precedentes de la pasada temporada no son buenos. Ocurrió algo similar con Heinze, que recibió un golpe en la misma zona ante el Zenit (faltaban cinco minutos y terminó el partido). Luego, las pruebas determinaron que el sóleo estaba roto de arriba a abajo y estuvo un mes de baja.

Sobre el césped, Xabi se temió lo peor. El dolor era intensísimo después del encontronazo y la inflamación apareció casi al instante (por eso se pidió el cambio de inmediato).

http://www.as.com/futbol/articulo/futbol-xabi-alonso-sera-baja/dasftb/20090917dasdaiftb_9/Tes

Well, hopefully it really is just the next two league games.

Roberto Carlos to Marca: "Cristiano is the best free kick taker in the world!"

Guti to Valdano: "This year I am going to show you who I really am!"

Valdano must be really worried by that...

The main problem with Gago is that he doesn't seem to fully fit in any position at the moment. He's not good enough defensively to be a great DM and he's not good enough offensively to be an organizer. That's where I agree with Super Granero that he needs to evolve a bit, so he can fit one of these positions. The easiest for him might be to bulk up a bit and do some more endurance training so he can cover more ground.

But given that Parejo is likely to come back next season and Lass and Alonso have many years left, I don't think we'll see Gago in a Real Madrid shirt within 2 seasons. Something tells me that he will end up in Seria A, where the slower pace of the games and the deep-lying defenses will benefit his game.

Guti: La eterna promesa

Torrente wrote:The main problem with Gago is that he doesn't seem to fully fit in any position at the moment. He's not good enough defensively to be a great DM and he's not good enough offensively to be an organizer. That's where I agree with Super Granero that he needs to evolve a bit, so he can fit one of these positions. The easiest for him might be to bulk up a bit and do some more endurance training so he can cover more ground.

But given that Parejo is likely to come back next season and Lass and Alonso have many years left, I don't think we'll see Gago in a Real Madrid shirt within 2 seasons Something tells me that .he will end up in Seria A, where the slower pace of the games and the deep-lying defenses will benefit his game.

Like Cambiasso?

Unflinching Frenchman wrote:

Torrente wrote:The main problem with Gago is that he doesn't seem to fully fit in any position at the moment. He's not good enough defensively to be a great DM and he's not good enough offensively to be an organizer. That's where I agree with Super Granero that he needs to evolve a bit, so he can fit one of these positions. The easiest for him might be to bulk up a bit and do some more endurance training so he can cover more ground.

But given that Parejo is likely to come back next season and Lass and Alonso have many years left, I don't think we'll see Gago in a Real Madrid shirt within 2 seasons Something tells me that .he will end up in Seria A, where the slower pace of the games and the deep-lying defenses will benefit his game.

Like Cambiasso?

Pretty much. The Argentinean league is more like Seria A since it's significantly slower paced, which benefits the likes of Cambiasso and Gago. I expected Cambiasso to do better with us since he joined Real Madrid B when he was 15 I believe, but he never fully adapted to the first team, even if he didn't get too many chances to prove himself.

Apparently Metzelder and Albiol may not be available for this weekend. Adding that Pepe being suspended will give an "interesting" selection situation at the back. Provided Ramos is back available, Arbeloa may play as CB (is he capable?) or it could even be M. Diarra ( ) partnering Garay. Am I forgetting someone else? Another possibiity is Ramos to play as CB and Arbeloa as RB, I guess.

It does look like Sergio Ramos will be fit to play. Arbeloa played as centreback in Castilla quite often so he can probably manage for one match (especially at home to Xerez). But hopefully one of Metzelder or Albiol can make it. Otherwise Pellegrini may have to call Gary or Juanan for the match.

Arbeloa Ramos Garay Marcelo

Seems adequate enough.

Torrente wrote:The main problem with Gago is that he doesn't seem to fully fit in any position at the moment. He's not good enough defensively to be a great DM and he's not good enough offensively to be an organizer. That's where I agree with Super Granero that he needs to evolve a bit, so he can fit one of these positions. The easiest for him might be to bulk up a bit and do some more endurance training so he can cover more ground.

But given that Parejo is likely to come back next season and Lass and Alonso have many years left, I don't think we'll see Gago in a Real Madrid shirt within 2 seasons. Something tells me that he will end up in Seria A, where the slower pace of the games and the deep-lying defenses will benefit his game.

I think Garay should played because we shouldn't rush Sergio Ramos if he isn't that fit.

Garay has to play if Metzelder and Albiol don't make the matchday squad. It's just who else will play where.

Metzelder out for 3 weeks

While he doesn't have too many long term injuries, Metzelder sure a lot of small injuries every season. I know he had a lot of injury problems in Dortmund but he still gets injured a lot, especially for a player who doesn't play that many games.

Torrente wrote:While he doesn't have too many long term injuries, Metzelder sure a lot of small injuries every season. I know he had a lot of injury problems in Dortmund but he still gets injured a lot, especially for a player who doesn't play that many games.

It seems he had the major knee injuries at Dortmund and now he's got all the niggling ones. And he even 'quit' Germany so he could stay fit for us.

PELE

Real Madrid striker Karim Benzema says he's joined the Spanish giants to win the Champions League.

He said: "It would be an enormous dream to win the Champions League. Now I'm in a team that has the ability to win the premier club competition in the world and that always generates expectations and, above all, a great responsibility."

"I am fortunate to have colleagues who have a tremendous quality."

"I have set myself a scoring target, but I'll keep that to myself."

Real Madrid’s defence is still a work in progress, goalkeeper Iker Casillas said on Thursday.

“If you look at the four goals we have conceded it’s true you could say we are a disaster at dead-ball situations,” Casillas said at a news conference. “But it is still early days to be reading too much into this.”

Real have scored 11 times in their three victories in the La Liga and Champions League so far, conceding one goal from open play, one from the penalty spot, one from a corner and the other at a freekick.

Sergio Ramos entra en escena

No todo son malas noticias para Pellegrini en cuento a la defensa se refiere. Pese a que Metzelder va a estar obligado a estar tres semanas de baja al sufrir una rotura muscular, el técnico chileno podrá contar ante el Xerez con Sergio Ramos. El zaguero sevillano llevaba cerca de tres meses en el dique seco por culpa de una tendinitis que le ha tenido apartado del equipo durante toda la pretemporada. Ramos no pudo disputar ningún minuto con el conjunto blanco durante el verano y fue el pasado 9 de septiembre cuando comenzó a entrenarse con el resto de sus compañeros.

Manuel Pellegrini tendrá ante el Xerez dos bajas seguras en defensa. Metzelder, que venía entrando en el once titular en los últimos partidos, no estará por lesión y Pepe sigue sancionado por el incidente de la pasada temporada con Casquero. Así las cosas, el entrenador del Real Madrid incluirá al sevillano en la lista y podría tirar de Sergio Ramos para que forme pareja de centrales junto a Albiol.

El jugador sevillano volverá a una lista de convocados casi tres meses después y podía jugar su primer partido como titular de la temporada. Otra de las opciones que baraja Pellegrini para el choque de Liga ante el Xerez es utilizar de inicio a Albiol y Garay y dar minutos a Sergio Ramos en la segunda parte. El defensa madridista lleva ya dos semanas ejercitándose al mismo nivel que el resto del grupo y estará listo para lo que decida el chileno, que llegó incluso a pensar en convocarle para el pasado partido ante el Espanyol pero finalmente decidió no precipitarse.

Otro de los jugadores que eran duda para jugar ante el Xerez era Albiol. El ex valencianista sufrió un golpe en el partido de Champions ante el Zurich pero no tendrá problemas para jugar ante el Xerez en Liga.

Con la incorporación de Sergio Ramos tras recuperarse definitivamente de su lesión, el Real Madrid intentará solucionar los problemas en defensa que lleva arrastrando en los últimos partidos. Pellegrini se ha impuesto el objetivo de que la zaga no sea tan vulnerable en las jugadas del rival a balón parado y el futbolista sevillano intentará reforzar al máximo la defensa madridista.

El último partido que jugó Sergio Ramos en partido oficial con el Real Madrid fue el 24 de mayo de 2009. Era la jornada 37 de la Liga BBVA y el conjunton blanco perdió ante el Mallorca (1-3) en un encuentro en donde el lateral madridista jugó todo el partido. Este fin de semana Sergio Ramos entrará de nuevo en escena.

http://www.marca.com/2009/09/18/futbol/equipos/real_madrid/1253272448.html

Jaime wrote:

Roberto Carlos to Marca: "Cristiano is the best free kick taker in the world!"

Guti to Valdano: "This year I am going to show you who I really am!"

TRW shows the world what Rocket-Ron means!

BTW, what did Messi/Rooney do in the CL? Fack all!!!

CONVOCATORIA

Porteros: Casillas y Dudek
Defensas: Arbeloa, Ramos, Marcelo, Albiol y Garay
Centrocampistas: Gago, Diarra, Drenthe, Kaká, Lass, Guti y Granero
Delanteros: Cristiano Ronaldo, Raúl, Benzema, Higuaín y Van Nistelrooy

Sancionados: Pepe
Lesionados: Metzelder y Xabi Alonso
Fuera por decisión técnica: van der Vaart