PFA Awards 2009/2010

debaser wrote:Milner should be CM and Malouda on the left

That makes more sense.
Still think Fletcher would be very close though, hardly deserving of ridicule.

Luis wrote:

Parks lives wrote:Can somebody name some better central midfielders this season than Fletcher, Fabregas not included?

Lampard, Fellaini (until his injury), Mascherano

L U C A S wrote:

debaser wrote:Milner should be CM and Malouda on the left

Pierre Littbarski wrote:

Luis wrote:

Parks lives wrote:Can somebody name some better central midfielders this season than Fletcher, Fabregas not included?

Lampard, Fellaini (until his injury), Mascherano

20 league goals for Lampard.

The goal with the outside of his boot yesterday was delightful.

He's not your type of player, fair enough, but he's ruthless in the Premiership. Statistically, he's also well into double figures with assists too.

So efficient, he should be German

Noah and the Bale wrote:

Pierre Littbarski wrote:

Luis wrote:

Parks lives wrote:Can somebody name some better central midfielders this season than Fletcher, Fabregas not included?

Lampard, Fellaini (until his injury), Mascherano

20 league goals for Lampard.

The goal with the outside of his boot yesterday was delightful.

He's not your type of player, fair enough, but he's ruthless in the Premiership. Statistically, he's also well into double figures with assists too.

So efficient, he should be German

A German would never do this (25 seconds in): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3ZjrO517xo

Noah and the Bale wrote:

Pierre Littbarski wrote:

Luis wrote:

Parks lives wrote:Can somebody name some better central midfielders this season than Fletcher, Fabregas not included?

Lampard, Fellaini (until his injury), Mascherano

20 league goals for Lampard.

The goal with the outside of his boot yesterday was delightful.

He's not your type of player, fair enough, but he's ruthless in the Premiership. Statistically, he's also well into double figures with assists too.

So efficient, he should be German

Sure, good stats but he doesn't play central midfield.

Sheffield gunner wrote:

Noah and the Bale wrote:

Pierre Littbarski wrote:

Luis wrote:

Parks lives wrote:Can somebody name some better central midfielders this season than Fletcher, Fabregas not included?

Lampard, Fellaini (until his injury), Mascherano

20 league goals for Lampard.

The goal with the outside of his boot yesterday was delightful.

He's not your type of player, fair enough, but he's ruthless in the Premiership. Statistically, he's also well into double figures with assists too.

So efficient, he should be German

A German would never do this (25 seconds in): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3ZjrO517xo

True, but he's missed one penalty for club and country since hasn't he?

PFA alongside World Footballer of the year the two biggest farce when it comes to awards.

So bascially its judged on what you do from Aug-Jan.

Football Writers>>>>>>>PFA

Parks lives wrote:Mascherano?!

If someone other than yourself put that forward I might take it seriously. Lampard maybe if you are actually taking into account his goal count can't think of many others.

WTF are you on about? So because I tell you mascherano has been one of the best centre mids/defensive mids in the league you wont accept it?

20 league goals for Lampard - 6 of them actually meant something (at least 1 of those 6 was a pen and Drogba and Ballack are better pen takers).

So now goals have to be deemed significant in determining the outcome of a result to receive credit? In that case you can halve both Drogba and Rooney's goal tally.

Goals cover up actual perfomances.

Do assists cover them up too?

Well that is genius. I suppose the same rules apply for assists, because Lampard gets shitloads of them aswell.

S4P wrote:Do assists cover them up too?

Of course not.

perfomances>>>>>assists>>>>>>goals

Would any Barca / Real / Liverpool / United / Arsenal fan want Lampard in their first team ?

COTR #6 wrote:Would any Barca / Real / Liverpool / United / Arsenal fan want Lampard in their first team ?

Barca-he won't play much see Gudjohnsen/Hleb
Real-Gago plays so he might have a chance
Liverpool-they need him
United- now Carrick has finally been dropped they wouldn't need him
Arsenal-what a silly question

Assists he gets from corners. Lampard is one of the worst players in the premiership. He barely can complete a pass. He wouldn't get in 70% of premiership teams.

EM La Liga wrote:

S4P wrote:Do assists cover them up too?

Of course not.

perfomances>>>>>assists>>>>>>goals

So you'd prefer a player who can do some clever tricks in the middle of the pitch, take it round 3 players only to be let down more often than not by the final ball to a player who will get 20 league goals and 10-15 assists? Well, I guess you are a big fan of Nani.

L r dd wrote:Assists he gets from corners. Lampard is one of the worst players in the premiership. He barely can complete a pass. He wouldn't get in 70% of premiership teams.

We must have scored about 2 goals from corners all season lerd (if that). We've been awful from set pieces this season. But I guess that you're right about getting lots of assists from corners can massively help your tally. Maybe that's why Giggs won the award last season.

S4P wrote:

L r dd wrote:Assists he gets from corners. Lampard is one of the worst players in the premiership. He barely can complete a pass. He wouldn't get in 70% of premiership teams.

We must have scored about 2 goals from corners all season lerd (if that). We've been awful from set pieces this season. But I guess that you're right about getting lots of assists from corners can massively help your tally. Maybe that's why Giggs won the award last season.

Aye cos Lampard has been taking them all

L r dd wrote:

S4P wrote:

L r dd wrote:Assists he gets from corners. Lampard is one of the worst players in the premiership. He barely can complete a pass. He wouldn't get in 70% of premiership teams.

We must have scored about 2 goals from corners all season lerd (if that). We've been awful from set pieces this season. But I guess that you're right about getting lots of assists from corners can massively help your tally. Maybe that's why Giggs won the award last season.

Aye cos Lampard has been taking them all

But doesn't that mean that he's getting very few assists from corners, meaning he's getting more from open play?

S4P wrote:

L r dd wrote:

S4P wrote:

L r dd wrote:Assists he gets from corners. Lampard is one of the worst players in the premiership. He barely can complete a pass. He wouldn't get in 70% of premiership teams.

We must have scored about 2 goals from corners all season lerd (if that). We've been awful from set pieces this season. But I guess that you're right about getting lots of assists from corners can massively help your tally. Maybe that's why Giggs won the award last season.

Aye cos Lampard has been taking them all

But doesn't that mean that he's getting very few assists from corners, meaning he's getting more from open play?

Guy rarely misses a game it's not a huge surprise he gets more assists than the average person.
Anyway Lampard is world class at what he does...making runs at the right time. But he isnt a world class player and hasnt been that great this season.

EM La Liga wrote:Goals cover up actual perfomances.

Ronaldo was amazing at this. Do nothing for 90 minutes except whine and fall over, score a penalty and a toe punt free kick, and next day he was the greatest player ever.

L r dd wrote:

S4P wrote:

L r dd wrote:

S4P wrote:

L r dd wrote:Assists he gets from corners. Lampard is one of the worst players in the premiership. He barely can complete a pass. He wouldn't get in 70% of premiership teams.

We must have scored about 2 goals from corners all season lerd (if that). We've been awful from set pieces this season. But I guess that you're right about getting lots of assists from corners can massively help your tally. Maybe that's why Giggs won the award last season.

Aye cos Lampard has been taking them all

But doesn't that mean that he's getting very few assists from corners, meaning he's getting more from open play?

Guy rarely misses a game it's not a huge surprise he gets more assists than the average person.
Anyway Lampard is world class at what he does...making runs at the right time. But he isnt a world class player and hasnt been that great this season.

Quote of the season



Carlo Ancelotti hailed Frank Lampard after the midfielder grabbed a glorious double to fire Chelsea back to the top of the Premier League.

Florent Malouda gave the home side the perfect start in six minutes and Frank Lampard scored twice to end Birmingham's 16 game unbeaten run.

Blues boss Ancelotti was delighted with Lampard’s contribution. He said: “He’s using great movement. We use all the pitch to attack and so he is able to run into the box and can score.

“I think he’s the best running midfielder in the world. He has this fantastic quality .. to time his run into the box.”

Noah and the Bale wrote:

EM La Liga wrote:Goals cover up actual perfomances.

Ronaldo was amazing at this. Do nothing for 90 minutes except whine and fall over, score a penalty and a toe punt free kick, and next day he was the greatest player ever.

L r dd wrote:

S4P wrote:

L r dd wrote:

S4P wrote:

L r dd wrote:Assists he gets from corners. Lampard is one of the worst players in the premiership. He barely can complete a pass. He wouldn't get in 70% of premiership teams.

We must have scored about 2 goals from corners all season lerd (if that). We've been awful from set pieces this season. But I guess that you're right about getting lots of assists from corners can massively help your tally. Maybe that's why Giggs won the award last season.

Aye cos Lampard has been taking them all

But doesn't that mean that he's getting very few assists from corners, meaning he's getting more from open play?

Guy rarely misses a game it's not a huge surprise he gets more assists than the average person.
Anyway Lampard is world class at what he does...making runs at the right time. But he isnt a world class player and hasnt been that great this season.

His finishing is World Class. I don't see how that can be denied. His goal at the weekend is perfect example of the fact that he is incredibly good in this respect.

I'd agree with Pierre - he ain't a typical central midfielder, he needs to play behind the strikers. In that position, he is lethal. In central midfield - average

Noah and the Bale wrote:

L r dd wrote:

S4P wrote:

L r dd wrote:

S4P wrote:

L r dd wrote:Assists he gets from corners. Lampard is one of the worst players in the premiership. He barely can complete a pass. He wouldn't get in 70% of premiership teams.

We must have scored about 2 goals from corners all season lerd (if that). We've been awful from set pieces this season. But I guess that you're right about getting lots of assists from corners can massively help your tally. Maybe that's why Giggs won the award last season.

Aye cos Lampard has been taking them all

But doesn't that mean that he's getting very few assists from corners, meaning he's getting more from open play?

Guy rarely misses a game it's not a huge surprise he gets more assists than the average person.
Anyway Lampard is world class at what he does...making runs at the right time. But he isnt a world class player and hasnt been that great this season.

His finishing is World Class. I don't see how that can be denied. His goal at the weekend is perfect example of the fact that he is incredibly good in this respect.

I'd agree with Pierre - he ain't a typical central midfielder, he needs to play behind the strikers. In that position, he is lethal.

So what is he then a second striker ?

EM La Liga wrote:

Noah and the Bale wrote:

EM La Liga wrote:Goals cover up actual perfomances.

Ronaldo was amazing at this. Do nothing for 90 minutes except whine and fall over, score a penalty and a toe punt free kick, and next day he was the greatest player ever.

Roll your eyes all you want. One of my best mates is a season ticket holder at United, goes home and away- obsessed. He would say this a lot, particularly in his last season. I'll take his word for it alongside what I saw with my own eyes. Incredibly self obsessed, selfish player, and hugely overrated to boot

Noah and the Bale wrote:

EM La Liga wrote:

Noah and the Bale wrote:

EM La Liga wrote:Goals cover up actual perfomances.

Ronaldo was amazing at this. Do nothing for 90 minutes except whine and fall over, score a penalty and a toe punt free kick, and next day he was the greatest player ever.

Roll your eyes all you want. One of my best mates is a season ticket holder at United, goes home and away- obsessed. He would say this a lot, particularly in his last season. I'll take his word for it alongside what I saw with my own eyes. Incredibly self obsessed, selfish player, and hugely overrated to boot

Did your friend also cheer Alan Smith to the roof tops. Ronaldo was the best player in the world for two years he won it just once though thanks to Milan resting Kaka. But end of the day to compare him to Lampard is a bit ridiculous since Lampard isnt even the best player in his country or club and never has been or was or will be.