He should really call Frings now. He could do it savely now without loosing too much, because its a emergency. He wont though
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Antarion- Number of posts : 3382
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I think he will play Khedira, Hummels as backup
He should really call Frings now. He could do it savely now without loosing too much, because its a emergency. He wont though
He should really call Frings now. He could do it savely now without loosing too much, because its a emergency. He wont though
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From their potential it's a possibility, who knows. We have a lot of talented young midfielders though.Tweesus wrote:Is German'y future a pair of Benders in the centre of the park then?
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Stiftung Haeschentest wrote:Tweesus wrote:Bender?
We even have two of them
Benders
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Bad news for Germany. Boateng's tacles on Ballack was very bad and you could immediately see that he had an injury. Who is likely to replace him?
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chrissicross wrote:Stiftung Haeschentest wrote:Tweesus wrote:Bender?
We even have two of them
Benders
They remind me of:
Village of the Damned Benders
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Alive and Kicking wrote:Bad news for Germany. Boateng's tacles on Ballack was very bad and you could immediately see that he had an injury. Who is likely to replace him?
Khedira i think.
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http://www.kicker.de/news/fussball/nationalelf/startseite/525178/artikel_WM-Aus-fuer-Michael-Ballack.htmlLöw verwies darauf, dass sich viele junge Spieler im Kader befinden. In der Geschichte habe es immer wieder Beispiele dagegen, dass bei einem Ausfall eines wichtigen Spielers andere in die Lücke gestoßen seien. Eine Nachnominierung wird es vorerst nicht geben.
Löw won't call up a replacement, at least for the moment. With other words we only have Schweini and Khedira as DM for the WC.
Ah, Jogi. God bless your ego.
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Again, let me just say: Germany. Are. Fucked.
Thank you Löw for your totally retarded plan to boot out all realistic alternatives we had. Hitzlsperger to replace Ballack? You must be fucking joking.
It's not so much Ballack's footballing qualities that will be missed, but his leadership. A very young squad, chosen on purpose by Löw, but not many (or any) leaders bar Ballack.
This WC may become the worst since 1938.
Thank you Löw for your totally retarded plan to boot out all realistic alternatives we had. Hitzlsperger to replace Ballack? You must be fucking joking.
It's not so much Ballack's footballing qualities that will be missed, but his leadership. A very young squad, chosen on purpose by Löw, but not many (or any) leaders bar Ballack.
This WC may become the worst since 1938.
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chrissicross wrote:http://www.kicker.de/news/fussball/nationalelf/startseite/525178/artikel_WM-Aus-fuer-Michael-Ballack.htmlLöw verwies darauf, dass sich viele junge Spieler im Kader befinden. In der Geschichte habe es immer wieder Beispiele dagegen, dass bei einem Ausfall eines wichtigen Spielers andere in die Lücke gestoßen seien. Eine Nachnominierung wird es vorerst nicht geben.
Löw won't call up a replacement, at least for the moment. With other words we only have Schweini and Khedira as DM for the WC.
Ah, Jogi. God bless your ego.
I seriously consider his assassination. Is he fucking retarded or something?
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Frings has booted himself out of the squad.
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Schade Ballack alles ist vorbei
Footballing wise he shouldnt be in the team anymore, but his experience will be missed. And dunno if Frings would be the best sollution, that midfield of frings-ozil-marin got raped this weekend.
Footballing wise he shouldnt be in the team anymore, but his experience will be missed. And dunno if Frings would be the best sollution, that midfield of frings-ozil-marin got raped this weekend.
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Löw hat doch gesagt, Ballack, Friedrich und Klose wären seine Führungsspieler.blutgraetsche wrote:A very young squad, chosen on purpose by Löw, but not many (or any) leaders bar Ballack.
Friedrich und Klose hat er ja noch. Einen schleimigen Absteiger und einen rückgratlosen Schlaffi.
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Stiftung Haeschentest wrote:Frings has booted himself out of the squad.
Nonsense. Löw axed him when there was no need whatsoever, and now Frings of course couldn't give a fuck. I'd do the same after such treatment.
If Löw seriously won't even call up a replacement, playing the tournament with just two defensive minded midfielders (not even proper DMs), he should be sacked immediately. How incompetent can you get? Fucking idiot.
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blutgraetsche wrote:Stiftung Haeschentest wrote:Frings has booted himself out of the squad.
Nonsense. Löw axed him when there was no need whatsoever, and now Frings of course couldn't give a fuck. I'd do the same after such treatment.
OMG! A player was benched!
Something like that of course never happened before.
Dunno, if you missed it, but the midfield duo of Ballack and Frings was exposed during the EM. There was a need to make changes to the structure of the team.
If Löw seriously won't even call up a replacement, playing the tournament with just two defensive minded midfielders (not even proper DMs), he should be sacked immediately. How incompetent can you get? Fucking idiot.
Träsch and Westermann can play there too.
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Wowow cool down guys. We are not doomed.
Its a chance - without the last God in the team, maybe the others will step up and play together. No Überfigur anymore. We needed a replacement soon anyway.
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Its a chance - without the last God in the team, maybe the others will step up and play together. No Überfigur anymore. We needed a replacement soon anyway.
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He wasn't just benched, but axed and never called up again. It was on purpose Häschen, don't try to make it look like it wasn't.
Träsch or Westermann? Jesus Christ.
An already unbalanced squad looks even more unbalanced now, but the idiot still is not able to see that. There is only so much ego-tripping and stubbornness I am willing to take. Enough of this shit, the summer is likely ruined anyway.
Träsch or Westermann? Jesus Christ.
An already unbalanced squad looks even more unbalanced now, but the idiot still is not able to see that. There is only so much ego-tripping and stubbornness I am willing to take. Enough of this shit, the summer is likely ruined anyway.
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Well, if Westermann would play in the midfield, he can't play in the defence anymore. Might be blessing in disguise.
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Antarion wrote:Wowow cool down guys. We are not doomed.
Its a chance - without the last God in the team, maybe the others will step up and play together. No Überfigur anymore. We needed a replacement soon anyway.
GERMANY
Injuries can happen. To less important players, to key players. It's football, a rather physical sport, so they happen.
The problem is Löw's 'planning', his squad selection, his retarded stubbornness and most importantly, his total inability to learn from his mistakes and change things once he is proven wrong or has no other choice. That's what pissing me off the most, and that's exactly why I think that Germany are fucked.
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Four words to say it all.blutgraetsche wrote:The problem is Löw
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blutgraetsche wrote:Antarion wrote:Wowow cool down guys. We are not doomed.
Its a chance - without the last God in the team, maybe the others will step up and play together. No Überfigur anymore. We needed a replacement soon anyway.
GERMANY
Injuries can happen. To less important players, to key players. It's football, a rather physical sport, so they happen.
The problem is Löw's 'planning', his squad selection, his retarded stubbornness and most importantly, his total inability to learn from his mistakes and change things once he is proven wrong or has no other choice. That's what pissing me off the most, and that's exactly why I think that Germany are fucked.
Yes Löw is retarded but Ballack or not, the outcome doesn't suddenly change from everything is possible to totally doomed.
Like I said it could be a chance and the players are there, even with the Cremer in charge we could get our results.
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löw should get the sack
then the recall from frings should not be the problem
then the recall from frings should not be the problem
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Whatever though. It's now up to the Lahm-Schweini-Mertesacker generation to step up and lead the even younger generation of Khedira-Özil-Marin-Kroos etc. Will they be able to do it? God knows, we can only hope.
Now that Ballack is injured and Frings obviously not an option, I'd call up a young replacement like Hummels. Let the youngsters gain some invaluable WC experience for the time after Löw. Ideally, this could be a 1970 like WC for a very talented young team that started a new era. Worst comes worst, it'll be 1938 again.
But the fucker has to call up a replacement.
Now that Ballack is injured and Frings obviously not an option, I'd call up a young replacement like Hummels. Let the youngsters gain some invaluable WC experience for the time after Löw. Ideally, this could be a 1970 like WC for a very talented young team that started a new era. Worst comes worst, it'll be 1938 again.
But the fucker has to call up a replacement.
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Surely it's not too much of an issue. Is there a hitch with the endless conveyor belt or something?
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The conveyor belt isn't the problem. Sending a U21 side to the WC is.
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blutgraetsche wrote:The conveyor belt isn't the problem. Sending a U21 side to the WC is.
True but Piggy is old and ugly enough to be able to step up. Someone else will have to follow suit.
Ballack always turns up for Germany tho, so no doubt a blow.
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I can't help but think about how Bayern tried to injure Rooney.
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Calidad wrote:True but Piggy is old and ugly enough to be able to step up.
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Antarion wrote:We are not doomed.
Its a chance - without the last God in the team, maybe the others will step up and play together. No Überfigur anymore. We needed a replacement soon anyway.
GERMANY
That's my hope too.
blutgraetsche wrote:He wasn't just benched, but axed and never called up again. It was on purpose Häschen, don't try to make it look like it wasn't.
He was benched for two matches after the EM and only after that hasn't been called up again, because he said he wouldn't want to get called up again if he wasn't starting for Germany.
What do you expect Löw to do here?
Should he have just continued playing with Ballack and Frings? Should he ignore the fact that this midfield tandem has been proven to be not good enough anymore?
Löw had to bench him, and after Frings' statements to retire from international football if he's no longer a starter, it was the logical next step to axe him entirely.
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Well it's good to know there is at least a spare one on earth
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That's some top class revisionism there Häschen. But geschenkt, we really have greater issues atm., and beating a dead horse isn't exactly going to help.
Who do you guys want to see as his replacement? Hummels? S. Bender? Someone else? Maybe we should start a poll.
Who do you guys want to see as his replacement? Hummels? S. Bender? Someone else? Maybe we should start a poll.