Calcio Mercato 2010-11

Yes, its that time of the year!

Latest rumours: Coutinho to Inter, Leo leaves Milan, Del Neri to Juve, Zac Sacked

The Tracker for confirmed deals at top clubs: Likely signings in BLUE

Milan
IN: Yepes
OUT: [Leonardo]
Inter
IN: Coutinho, Vargas, Kolarov
OUT: Arnautovic,
Juve
IN: [Del Neri],
OUT: [Zac]
Roma
IN:
OUT:
Fiorentina
IN:
OUT: Vargas
Sampdoria
IN:
OUT:
Palermo
IN:
OUT:
Napoli
IN:
OUT:

Rest of Serie A
IN:
OUT:

Surely Inter won't persist with one of Motta/Muntari/Stankovic/Mariga next to Cambiasso? Inter haven't had to break down a defence in Cl too much but you can be sure they will run into that problem next season. They need a regista just like Juventus does.

MILAN:
in: Yepes, Astori
out: Dida, Favalli, Oddo, Jankulovski, Kaladze
likely signings: Valdes (Atalanta), Eder (Empoli)

Latest rumours: Prandelli for Azzurri, Coutinho to Inter, Leo leaves Milan, Del Neri to Juve, Zac Sacked

The Tracker for confirmed deals at top clubs: Likely signings in BLUE

Milan
IN: Yepes,
OUT: [Leonardo], Dida, Favalli
Inter
IN: Coutinho, Vargas, Kolarov
OUT: Arnautovic, Orlandoni, Quaresma
Juve
IN: [Del Neri], Kolarov, Pazzini
OUT: [Zac], Cannavaro
Roma
IN:
OUT: Tonetto, Cassetti
Fiorentina
IN: [Dunga]
OUT: Vargas, Gobbi, Santana, Kroldrup, [Prandelli]
Sampdoria
IN:
OUT: Pazzini
Palermo
IN:
OUT: Bresciano, Simplicio
Napoli
IN:
OUT:

Serie A
IN:
OUT:

Don't understand why Pazzini would move from Samp now that he has a chance to play in the CL. Probably just rumors that don't have much substance

Super Madrid wrote:Surely Inter won't persist with one of Motta/Muntari/Stankovic/Mariga next to Cambiasso? Inter haven't had to break down a defence in Cl too much but you can be sure they will run into that problem next season. They need a regista just like Juventus does.

Depends who our coach is next season... If Mou goes to Real (taking Muntari with him ), the new coach may have a different philosophy.... someone like Prandelli may completely overhaul our midfield. But if Mou stays, I doubt we will change much from that point of view.

We had no problems breaking down 11 man defences in Italy this season, when needed. Sneijder-Stank-Pandev alongside 2 strikers does give us some firepower.... however, if a top defensive team decides to park the bus against us, we will struggle.

But then, so did Barca

Tarun wrote:Don't understand why Pazzini would move from Samp now that he has a chance to play in the CL. Probably just rumors that don't have much substance

More money + Del Neri connection + Long term accolades with a more prestigious club, it can happen. He is not old, he could think ahead...

I hope it does not happen tho.... Doria need to keep hold of their few jewels, or they will end up embarassing Serie A in the CL, like Cheivo did some years ago.

bluenine wrote:

Super Madrid wrote:Surely Inter won't persist with one of Motta/Muntari/Stankovic/Mariga next to Cambiasso? Inter haven't had to break down a defence in Cl too much but you can be sure they will run into that problem next season. They need a regista just like Juventus does.

Depends who our coach is next season... If Mou goes to Real (taking Muntari with him ), the new coach may have a different philosophy.... someone like Prandelli may completely overhaul our midfield. But if Mou stays, I doubt we will change much from that point of view.

We had no problems breaking down 11 man defences in Italy this season, when needed. Sneijder-Stank-Pandev alongside 2 strikers does give us some firepower.... however, if a top defensive team decides to park the bus against us, we will struggle.

But then, so did Barca

Im not talking about Italy but about in Europe. Any good team that will force the Inter to take the mantle will give you trouble. I don't rate Stanko particularly high and I have rarely if ever seen him perform in Europe.

Super Madrid wrote:

bluenine wrote:

Super Madrid wrote:Surely Inter won't persist with one of Motta/Muntari/Stankovic/Mariga next to Cambiasso? Inter haven't had to break down a defence in Cl too much but you can be sure they will run into that problem next season. They need a regista just like Juventus does.

Depends who our coach is next season... If Mou goes to Real (taking Muntari with him ), the new coach may have a different philosophy.... someone like Prandelli may completely overhaul our midfield. But if Mou stays, I doubt we will change much from that point of view.

We had no problems breaking down 11 man defences in Italy this season, when needed. Sneijder-Stank-Pandev alongside 2 strikers does give us some firepower.... however, if a top defensive team decides to park the bus against us, we will struggle.

But then, so did Barca

Im not talking about Italy but about in Europe. Any good team that will force the Inter to take the mantle will give you trouble. I don't rate Stanko particularly high and I have rarely if ever seen him perform in Europe.

He does not have the talent to be the trequartista, but when playing alongside Cambiasso, Sneijder & Pandev, he gels well. Between the 4 of them, we have a good balance of creativity and resilience.

It may be too early to expect anything out of him, but young Coutinho joins us this summer... he will soon give us another creative option in the midfield.

Is Coutinho to Inter done?

Tarun wrote:Is Coutinho to Inter done?

Yup, I believe it was done 2 years ago.... we just left him there on loan coz he cannot play for Inter until he is 18...

how good were Pastore and Ljajic last season, Blue?

SLG wrote:how good were Pastore and Ljajic last season, Blue?

Pastore had an excellent season, and was the main protagonist for Palermo in the midfield.... this guy is one to watch out for.... Zamparini calls him "better than Kaka", but Zamparini always exagerates

Ljajic, I don't think he got much time at viola this season... a few sub appreances i think.... I only saw him play like 15 minutes, he looked talented....

Juventus To Table €20 Million Bid For Fiorentina’s Juan Manuel Vargas – Report
Peruvian could be set for Turin switch…

According to reports surfacing in Italy this afternoon, Juventus are set to table a €20 million bid for Fiorentina’s Peruvian wing-back Juan Manuel Vargas.

TuttoJuve.com report that the Bianconeri's new director general Beppe Marotta is set to initiate a complete overhaul of the squad that saw the Old Lady slump to a disappointing seventh place Serie A finish.

Having confirmed the appointment of new coach Luigi Del Neri this week, Juve are said to be ready to return to a flat 4-4-2 formation and have identified Vargas as their number one target to fill in on the left side of a new look midfield in Turin.

The 26-year-old Vargas, capped 25 times for his country, has emerged as one of Serie A’s most wanted players over the last 18 months and has also been strongly linked with summer switch to Real Madrid

Now you are talking. It would be strange though if Juve hijack Inter's transfer because it seemed like Vargas would be headed to Milan this summer. None the less it is a good move as well even if he would play in a 4-4-2 and not a 4-2-3-1 but it shouldn't be of that much importance.

They would still that important regista and except for Ledesma there isn't an obvious choice in Italy that has the proper experience.

Aquilani is also a name in the rumors.

Re Vargas: I'd love him, think he could be very useful for us. Our issue at the moment is the uncertainity on the coach. I hope they sort it out fast just after the CL final. Don't know how firmly they are working for signing him, but one thing for sure, we at least have to make Juve spend more. 20mil is too much of a good deal. =)

Nevermind, didn't read that Tuttosport is the source. They're like a tabloid, unimaginative fantasies.

Super Madrid wrote:

Juventus To Table €20 Million Bid For Fiorentina’s Juan Manuel Vargas – Report
Peruvian could be set for Turin switch…

According to reports surfacing in Italy this afternoon, Juventus are set to table a €20 million bid for Fiorentina’s Peruvian wing-back Juan Manuel Vargas.

TuttoJuve.com report that the Bianconeri's new director general Beppe Marotta is set to initiate a complete overhaul of the squad that saw the Old Lady slump to a disappointing seventh place Serie A finish.

Having confirmed the appointment of new coach Luigi Del Neri this week, Juve are said to be ready to return to a flat 4-4-2 formation and have identified Vargas as their number one target to fill in on the left side of a new look midfield in Turin.

The 26-year-old Vargas, capped 25 times for his country, has emerged as one of Serie A’s most wanted players over the last 18 months and has also been strongly linked with summer switch to Real Madrid

Now you are talking. It would be strange though if Juve hijack Inter's transfer because it seemed like Vargas would be headed to Milan this summer. None the less it is a good move as well even if he would play in a 4-4-2 and not a 4-2-3-1 but it shouldn't be of that much importance.

They would still that important regista and except for Ledesma there isn't an obvious choice in Italy that has the proper experience.

Montolivo! but i think he wants to stay at Fiorentina.

BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:

Super Madrid wrote:

Juventus To Table €20 Million Bid For Fiorentina’s Juan Manuel Vargas – Report
Peruvian could be set for Turin switch…

According to reports surfacing in Italy this afternoon, Juventus are set to table a €20 million bid for Fiorentina’s Peruvian wing-back Juan Manuel Vargas.

TuttoJuve.com report that the Bianconeri's new director general Beppe Marotta is set to initiate a complete overhaul of the squad that saw the Old Lady slump to a disappointing seventh place Serie A finish.

Having confirmed the appointment of new coach Luigi Del Neri this week, Juve are said to be ready to return to a flat 4-4-2 formation and have identified Vargas as their number one target to fill in on the left side of a new look midfield in Turin.

The 26-year-old Vargas, capped 25 times for his country, has emerged as one of Serie A’s most wanted players over the last 18 months and has also been strongly linked with summer switch to Real Madrid

Now you are talking. It would be strange though if Juve hijack Inter's transfer because it seemed like Vargas would be headed to Milan this summer. None the less it is a good move as well even if he would play in a 4-4-2 and not a 4-2-3-1 but it shouldn't be of that much importance.

They would still that important regista and except for Ledesma there isn't an obvious choice in Italy that has the proper experience.

Montolivo! but i think he wants to stay at Fiorentina.

I always forget about him. He would be even better or perhaps David Pizzaro who can make the move up to a bigger club allthough considering Roma's and Juventus respective positions in the tables it doesn't make much sense. Tuttosport is a pro Juve paper but considering the new management I wouldn't put it behind them to making the right moves now.

Yeah I have heard rumors on Aquilani coming back to Italy but it doesn't make much sense. Last season Inter/Juve could have made a move but this year I can't see which club should buy him. He is too lightweight to play in Milan's 3 man midfield. Juventus needs somebody who sits deeper because Diego might stay as a second striker.

Though there are rumors associating Aquilani with Juve but I agree with you that he would not fit the compact 4-4-2 that Del Neri is planning towards. Montolivo, if he can be persuaded, would be a great move! I guess a lot depends upon what Prandelli decides from here on. If he moves on from Fiorentina, a few players might also choose to leave the club.

They would still that important regista and except for Ledesma there isn't an obvious choice in Italy that has the proper experience.[/quote]

Montolivo! but i think he wants to stay at Fiorentina.[/quote]

I always forget about him. He would be even better or perhaps David Pizzaro who can make the move up to a bigger club allthough considering Roma's and Juventus respective positions in the tables it doesn't make much sense. Tuttosport is a pro Juve paper but considering the new management I wouldn't put it behind them to making the right moves now.

Yeah I have heard rumors on Aquilani coming back to Italy but it doesn't make much sense. Last season Inter/Juve could have made a move but this year I can't see which club should buy him. He is too lightweight to play in Milan's 3 man midfield. Juventus needs somebody who sits deeper because Diego might stay as a second striker.[/quote]

juve need major surgery.
so much shite floating in the squad... 150m might sort it, otherwise its more of the same. sadley.

Lordanger wrote:juve need major surgery.
so much shite floating in the squad... 150m might sort it, otherwise its more of the same. sadley.

Not necessarily because somebody Molinaro looked decent enough for Stuttgart from what I saw in Cl and he will be back next season. Or they perhaps they will get Criscito back.
They need a good Cb and they would have fine defence sorted out. If they get Vargas and perhaps Ledesma/Montolivo then could line up like this:

--------------------Buffon-------------

Zebina/Grygera---Chiellini--Ranocchida--Molinaro/Criscito


Camoranesi-----Ledesma/Montolivo--Marchiso/Melo---Vargas

------------------------Diego-----------------------

-------------------Amauri/Iaquinta-------------------

That is potentially 4 players and perhaps another for right wing or right back. Those players shouldn't be that expensive and no more then 50-60M.

At LB they should play De Ceglie.

Camoranesi is gone and is useless anyway.

Need a better RB - Grygera, Zebina, Caceres they are all mediocre.

They probably need some backup wingers and they really need to give Giovinco a chance and stop relying on old guys.

BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:At LB they should play De Ceglie.

Camoranesi is gone and is useless anyway.

Need a better RB - Grygera, Zebina, Caceres they are all mediocre.

They probably need some backup wingers and they really need to give Giovinco a chance and stop relying on old guys.

No doubt and I agree that those players really aren't good enough. However you also have to consider the circumstances. Juventus doesn't have Cl football and if I was in charge I wouldn't care much about Europa League even if it helps Italy overall.

The focus should be creating a team that can compete in Serie A+Europe in the future. So perhaps getting too many players would complicate things at first. This is the way they should have handled it when they first came up but they squandered both time and money. So part of the rebuilding happens this season and by next years time the team will be more place and they can add a player or two.

Getting a good Rb is perhaps more important then a Lb because if they Vargas they are somewhat covered on the left but Zebina-Camoranesi doesn't inspire fear so they would be no balance. Giovino has no obvious place in this team except as back up for Diego. If forced Diego could play on the left cutting in with Giovinco behind Amauri/Iaquinta but I doubt Del Neri would go for that even if it makes more sense.

Good points SM.

One thing is for sure, they shouldn't pursue Pazzini. Good player and everything, but he's not really needed, and there are other areas of the side that need addressing more urgently.

Regarding Giovinco, think they should try and convert him to a winger. If not then loan him out, because he won't develop as a backup player.

Giovinco will probably leave this season, he won't develop under these conditions and he doesn't deserve to be placed in this situation anymore. Nice little transfer from a side like Arsenal will sway him this summer I think. It was fine up until now, but he just needs to go now.

If they bring in wingers and return to playing 4-4-2, then Amauri should definitely stay. However, Diego's presence makes that a slim possibility. They won't get anywhere near what they paid for him, so either they cut their losses now or hope a new manager and GM bring along some major tactical changes that will help Amauri find his form again. I do fear that if Juve were to sell him to another Serie A side he'd return to his old scoring form and come back to haunt us... and yeah, I just hope the caveman sticks around for another season, even if he's one of the likely ones out.

Seriously though, Zebina is injury prone, very average and literally crazy. I respect what he has done in the past, but he needs to go ASAP. That defense is far more troubling than anything else, it just needs to be changed alot.

Lordanger wrote:juve need major surgery.
so much shite floating in the squad... 150m might sort it, otherwise its more of the same. sadley.

Nah, Juve need 4-5 players (about 50-60m) and they will have a squad at par with Inter.... the difference in the squad is not as much as the league table/form shows... Juve's season nosedived coz of a combination of inexperienced/incompetent coaches & management.

Del Neri may not be the best around, and going by his record he may not last long, but he is better than Ciro/Zac... and players like Melo, Diego, Amauri etc did not turn shite in a season. They are still quality players, the coach needs to bring out the best from them. Melo IMO is one of the best DMs on the planet, but he is no regista.

If I have to make a prediction, I expect Juve to be Inter's main competition for the scudetto next season.

Latest rumours: Fiorentina recind Mutu contract, Mou leaves Inter, Prandelli for Azzurri, Coutinho to Inter, Leo leaves Milan, Del Neri to Juve, Zac Sacked

The Tracker for confirmed deals at top clubs: Likely signings in BLUE

Milan
IN: Yepes,
OUT: [Leonardo], Dida, Favalli
Inter
IN: Coutinho, Vargas, Kolarov
OUT: Arnautovic, Orlandoni, Quaresma, [Mourinho]
Juve
IN: [Del Neri], Kolarov, Pazzini, Vargas
OUT: [Zac], Cannavaro
Roma
IN: VDV, Adriano
OUT: Tonetto, Cassetti, De Rossi
Fiorentina
IN: [Dunga]
OUT: Vargas, Gobbi, Santana, Kroldrup, [Prandelli], Mutu
Sampdoria
IN:
OUT: Pazzini, [Del Neri]
Palermo
IN:
OUT: Bresciano, Simplicio
Napoli
IN: Toni
OUT: Denis

Palermo director Walter Sabatini has said Simon Kjaer will be sold if interested clubs meet the €12 million release clause currently vetoing any move.

Kjaer, who will play at the World Cup with Denmark, has been linked with a number of clubs including Arsenal and Juventus, who have decided not to extend Fabio Cannavaro's contract.

A clause in Kjaer's deal, which applies only to foreign clubs, states they will have to pay Palermo €12m for him.

And Sabatini has confirmed those who make the required bid will land the stopper.

"Of course the World Cup can emphasise a player. Kjaer will only leave Palermo if a team pays his rescissionary clause."

Striker Edinson Cavani has also been linked with a departure.

"He will leave only if he wants to try a different experience," Sabatini said of the Uruguayan.

Holy fuck 12m euros buyout clause for one of the best young defenders in world football, this is unbelievable, what are clubs waiting on to sign him up.

btw blue, i think Cannavaro is already a free agent!

Messiah wrote:

Palermo director Walter Sabatini has said Simon Kjaer will be sold if interested clubs meet the €12 million release clause currently vetoing any move.

Kjaer, who will play at the World Cup with Denmark, has been linked with a number of clubs including Arsenal and Juventus, who have decided not to extend Fabio Cannavaro's contract.

A clause in Kjaer's deal, which applies only to foreign clubs, states they will have to pay Palermo €12m for him.

And Sabatini has confirmed those who make the required bid will land the stopper.

"Of course the World Cup can emphasise a player. Kjaer will only leave Palermo if a team pays his rescissionary clause."

Striker Edinson Cavani has also been linked with a departure.

"He will leave only if he wants to try a different experience," Sabatini said of the Uruguayan.

Holy fuck 12m euros buyout clause for one of the best young defenders in world football, this is unbelievable, what are clubs waiting on to sign him up.

Great deal at that price. This kid is the real deal.